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    Why is good manners to prepare the donation...

    I've read a comments in the review that made me react, yes Halloween Mike it is because if you loll

    Here's why it is nicer not to wait for the girl to ask for the donation, prepare it (no envelope necessary although it's a nice touch)

    A classy girl won't pick it before the deed ,only after. but I am going to tell you what happen to me once when I started the hobby and was with a agency...

    Actually this story contains all the elements that eventually lead me to my definition of a good potential friend,just by taking the opposite loll...

    So it was outcall at his place, a (very) young guy, he didn't offer the money and I didn't think to ask, (I was new at this),we did the deed ,on a couch (!),25 min later he is done and gives me 60$...WTK?? My rate at the time was 160 an hour and no half hour rate,let alone 15min (burk)...so I said ,hum? No??

    He said well that's all I have ,and then he picked up a pair of jeans that was lying on the floor ,the place was a mess, and he go thru the pocket while explaining that it was his brother pants... he found 20$ and gave it to me and push me out the door...
    I was flabbergasted...The driver-pimp was there and when told him what happened he gave me shit, that I should always ask for the money first and then demanded his 60 $...so I ended have sex with a moron for 20$...Ah well...it was the end of my agency career, the end of house call and the end of 25 years old guys...

    I did learn a lesson,the first time I meet someone I ask the money to be visible...

    I will make allowance for someone who meets escorts for the first time but Mike mon ami you do not qualify as a newbie...

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    I have been burned a couple of times with crap service after paying in advance but this was with ann123 & BP indys ( yes I was naïve then ). I am older and very rarely get asked for money in advance. With a known agency or indy I would pay if asked for. Also if I pay in advance I usually do not tip ( just seems weird to me to say here is an extra $20 or $40 nice service ) If I pay after I just add it in since the SP very rarely counts it in front of me, one of my quirks.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    Lily from Montreal
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    I never count and never take it before the deed...

    My quirks is I do not like when people give me the money hands to hands...
    I prefer to pick it up discreetly at the end...exception been the tip ...

    It comes from a bad experience I had with a (once )very very good friend, he always put out the money at the end ( I like the money prepare only for the first meeting ,after I know I can trust you otherwise I would not see you again),
    he held the money in his hand and when I tried to take it he would hold to it a few seconds...awkward...
    eventually I realized after a few times like that or even worse when I had to remind him for the donation (!)that he was trying to make me give him freebies,expecting me to say '' I had such a good time (which was true) that you know what? you I will meet for free""......hum...no?
    It was the end of really nice meetings,snif...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilyForYou View Post
    My quirks is I do not like when people give me the money hands to hands....
    Agree, the hand to hand should never be done. Legal reason I have heard but not sure.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    Why is it a good idea to prepare the donation in advance and display it (and even more important for a new acquaintance...)

    For me, it is because then, my mind is free of any worry, and when this is classified, my mind is fully available & concentrated on the encounter itself.
    That's just giving me the possibility to live plenty the joy of the moment.

    I am not the style of lady who pick instantly the money when I see it. I let it where it is and pick it at the end. So, if my partner of encounter would like to add a little something with discretion, that's possible.

    The strangest thing I lived and that was very bizarre when someone did it was to slowly counting one bill of 20$ at a time and want to put it directly in my hand, for a multiple hours encounter.
    I think that was like an ego trip for him to make it like that, others hints about that went also. I just stopped to meet that man, not my cup of tea to meet egomaniacs.
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    Legality

    To have the money prepared upfront is a legal twist to confirm that you did not pay for sexual exchanges,
    because you pay in advance without knowing exactly what could happen after...

    That's also why it is written, on several websites of escorts: Money is for companionship only and what could appear is just a matter of personal preferences between 2 adults.

    That's how it works to make it 100% legal, it seems.
    Last edited by Maria Divina; 07-03-2013 at 11:41 AM.

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    I agree it is good manners to have an envelope of money in plain sight beforehand if its outcall. Just like it is good manners for the lady to not pick it until after. However, I try not to get offended if she does pick it up and pt it away early. That's her business. I don't know her rules (Agency) or how she likes to do things (Indy). I don't know of her past experiences. In most cases she would know almost nothing about me, at the very least I can demonstrate that I respect her time and have the money.

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    Lilly ...
    Well i used to prepare the money first, but eventually i got "favorites" and i just didn't bother when seeing them. They knew i was a good paying guy, the agency know as well as i never tried anything bad on that departement, im a fair guy. There was once i had the right donation only, and turned out my motel was out of downtown(didn't know) so i missed the 20$ more i should had pay, but the booker was cool on the phone, i also waited a long time and the girl was a replacement to my original date so he agreed to let it pass without problems. But i realized after that(i was still kinda newby back then) i should never have just the right ammount, in case something happen... But it was really a mistake. I just didn't like how the girl reacted at the end after what was a cool date before that, she gave me that bad look and "well call him" statement when i said "but its 200 right?, not 220" and anyway... yeah better have more than less. So when i see my regular i usually take out the wallet and pay them at the end.

    So lately been seeing a couple of new girl, some asked for it up front, others not, depends on the girl, but i just didn't tough of "preparing" it. Maybe i should yeah, this way would avoid maybe being asked up front. It just i know when its in my pocket its safe. Imagine once i get a girl that is dishonest, i mean im usually carefull with my choice of agencies and all, but imagine for once i make a mistake, get a bad girl, i got to go to the bathroom, only to come out and realize she got out with the money... when the session was middle. Or she take it without me noticing and argue with me there was nothing there... I know this won't happen with my regular agencies , but could with others. This will sound kitch i know, but my mom always taugh me to have my money safe in the wallet lol. Even when she leave me money home she actually put it in a desk or whatever, never plain sight and its our HOME lol.(Yep im back at my mom's place, but hey its free of charge and i got the basement for myself so why not lol)

    Anyway yeah i did that for the second girl yesterday and i tough i should probably always do this. Its just i kinda like when the girl trust me and just wait for me to take it out at the end. But anyway yes your right ill make sure next time its visible, better this way i guess.

    As for giving it hand to hand... i wouldn't worry about the law , as i call the same agencies most of the time, and well i doubt this could prove anything. And that guy Lilly was an idiot if he hold up to it. I did this one or twice to friends when paying them for something, when owning them money, just to joke and be like "what you don't want it? ok ill keep it then" but those where good old friends and i would never do that with an escort lol.

    Oh and i think its sad this story with that guy that gave you 80$ ended all 3 of the things you mention, all of this because of one dumb ass... Im 28, i was 24 when i started and i think its really sad you categorize guys in there 20 to that guy. House calls can be all fine too, i think if the place is really the mess obviously you can spot it from beginning , lots of dude im sure are just all fine even if they call from home. And finally not all agencies are like that, im surprise the driver didn't call/knock at the door especially if its a personal place... (the guy either was very stupid or got some balls...)

    I once called from home in sherbrooke(didn't worked out in the end, she never showed but well) i had made a super clean up of the appartement, like deep clean, i tough its important when you call a girl that its clean. Hotel room or home place.

    Anyway thanks for the tip :P i take note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Mike View Post

    As for giving it hand to hand... i wouldn't worry about the law
    No, you don't have you to worry, it is for us -escorts- to worry, if ever we are eventually meeting a policeman who is trying to "catch an escort".

    Those practices are really much more important in the USA, where they are coming from, but, like we say, "better be safe than sorry", even in Montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Divina View Post
    No, you don't have you to worry, it is for us -escorts- to worry, if ever we are eventually meeting a policeman who is trying to "catch an escort".

    Those practices are really much more important in the USA, where they are coming from, but, like we say, "better be safe than sorry", even in Montreal.
    Ah ok, but does there not something saying they can't touch you girls in any way or get undress... so if you actually had sex with the guy, well... he ain't a police for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Mike View Post
    Ah ok, but does there not something saying they can't touch you girls in any way or get undress... so if you actually had sex with the guy, well... he ain't a police for sure.
    yeah. because if he is police, he has a mic. and the recording is evidence. and he's not going to want to explain that his bosses/a judge.

    Could you imagine? "We want to protect women from sexual exploitation, so lets have the police have sex with them, then instead of paying arrest her. That will save her from this horrible life!"

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    après quelques expériences malheureuses, Je demande que la personne sorte la donation en entrant dans la chambre après leur douche et de la poser sur le bureau ou quand je vais chez la personne ou à l'hotel je leur précise avant d'arriver de la mettre en évidence..
    Même en connaissant bien la personne il m'est arrivé à quelques reprises de me faire arnaquer so, Chatte échaudée craint l'eau froide..J'ai donc perdu quelques clients en qui j'avais confiance.

    La préparation de la donation est un merveilleux moyen de ne pas se sentir mal à l'aise vis à vis l'un de l'autre..

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    If it were up to me, I'd rather present the money up front and have it counted in my presence.

    That way paranoid me can relax and not worry if I might have underpaid on the drive home. I'd be utterly horrified if I discovered later to have underpaid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Divina View Post
    To have the money prepared upfront is a legal twist to confirm that you did not pay for sexual exchanges,
    because you pay in advance without knowing exactly what could happen after...

    That's also why it is written, on several websites of escorts: Money is for companionship only and what could appear is just a matter of personal preferences between 2 adults.

    That's how it works to make it 100% legal, it seems.
    This is true for the agency only to protect against pimping accusations. But it's a facade only. Any agency could easily be prosecuted anyway. As for the client and the sp, it is already perfectly legal to exchange sex for money. Whether the payment is made before or after does not make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugu View Post
    This is true for the agency only to protect against pimping accusations. But it's a facade only. Any agency could easily be prosecuted anyway. As for the client and the sp, it is already perfectly legal to exchange sex for money. Whether the payment is made before or after does not make a difference.
    Gugu, I said it in my other post in this thread: Those protections are copied by what is done in the USA, I forgot to mention it also in the post you commented...

    Anyway, like I already said: To be more prudent never hurt.

    And if ever, you meet with a lady who is travelling and have taken this habits about the donation, it is so easy to just do what might put her more comfortable. (and you, by the same time...)
    Generally, ladies are just telling on their websites what they want about that.

    The main idea here, is to say that the donation might be visible or gave at the beginning of the encounter. Just to avoid any kind of bad feelings.
    Last edited by Maria Divina; 07-04-2013 at 10:10 AM.

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