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    Newbie mistakes when starting out in the hobby

    Back in the day when I first started out hobbying there was no internet or it was still in it's infancy. I relied on the free newspaper the Mirror to get the right contacts and basically learning by doing.

    I had called an SP advertising for an incall. She said she was available and was at XYZ hotel. So I drove to the hotel and went to the hotel counter and asked the concierge if he had any girls available. The concierge proceeded to open up the yellow pages and told me to call 123 number. So I left the hotel puzzled that I did not get to do the incall. It was only later on that I realized that I was suppose to call the SP back to get the room number!!! The conciege must have been wondering what this guy was smoking....

    That was my newbie mistake, I'm sure alot of the older hobbiest have some stories when starting out since there was no internet to get information on how the hobby wolrd worked back then.


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    Internet was well used when i started but i still had those newbie mistake to some point when i tried to start the first time... call the newspaper agency in sherb, 2 times, bad experiences... then i started for a second time , that time in mtl, and it was fine.

    But like most people i did a couple of mistakes, like booking at an hotel in the "wrong side" of the downtown, first time i taugh the SP i had book was too picky... an hotel is an hotel and it had everything required(private bathtroom and was clean) but the location was the problem. Second time it happened in 4 booking... same hotel, i changed my plans for next time. Of course there was always girls willing to go there, but suck to have your main plan cancel of because of that.

    Then there was a time when i had no backup plan and relied only on the girl i had in mind... i was lucky than most time(exept those 2 cancellation mentioned above) worked all fine. But back when i started there was less agencies that listed services, less agencies period... so choices where harder. Now there SO MUCH girls i want to see, that most time plan B could easily be Plan A.1 if i can say so...
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    15 years ago when I started hobblying, there has barely any info about the hobby scene, and at the time, there was catches for suckers, so at the time, I was a sucker for anything, I got burned too. And GFE was barely existent at the time, or I didn't know where to get. Then CANBEST came along and then the montreal boards, then the rest is history.

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    Cannot comment much on escorts since I hardly book them however I made some newbie mistakes when going on take out with strippers. One of the biggest mistake is paying the girl before service is provided. Never ever pay her first cuz more often then not when they do they will screw you over. I learned that the hard way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLOUD 500 View Post
    Cannot comment much on escorts since I hardly book them however I made some newbie mistakes when going on take out with strippers. One of the biggest mistake is paying the girl before service is provided. Never ever pay her first cuz more often then not when they do they will screw you over. I learned that the hard way.
    Alot of newbies make that mistake unfortunately

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    My biggest mistake was finding backpage before a review board. What a waste of time and money. Next was paying before the service, I will pay now with a known agency or reviewed indy.
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    Mine was doing business with Escort-Express. Once and never did again.

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    The biggest and most consistent mistake I have seen by newbies - and the violations are in the dozens or triple digits of posts I have read on MERB - is the failure to read the Bait and Switch sticky thread which has been up since October 2005. The newbie then comes back to MERB after losing money to post about an agency that is already warned about for years in the Bait and Switch Sticky thread. Some of those agencies are actually MERB advertisers, and the newbies made the mistake of believing that if an agency advertises on MERB, it is automatically legitimate and 100% B&S proof. This logic and reasoning that MERB somehow regulates the morals of those from which it accepts advertising dollars is so deeply flawed as to be comical, but I have seen it used to justify a disastrous decision many, many times.

    Stick with the tried and time tested agencies and read the B&S sticky thread.
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    My biggest newbie mistake was always trying to get something for nothing. You need to know the going rate for the part of the city that you are hobbying in. If the deal you make seems too good to be true it probably is. If the girl is willing to dicker with you red flags should go up.

    Also, stick to reviewed SPs and Sp's that advertize on the internet. If they screw you over you at least have some recourse. If an SP has a no review policy on MERB or on TER than that should send a clear message to you. Stay away!

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    Hey Guys,

    Whether you're new or experienced your worst enemy is a good sales pitch, especially from those you thought you could trust. Just last week I called an extremely popular and one of the longest surviving owners. I got a very enthusiastic pitch recommendation about a new lady who the owner said, you won't believe it...she is amazing...she cannot miss. So, I made the cardinal mistake of taking a recommendation without reading reviews. She was fair looking, with a very tight and sexy little body. But what a young (immature), silly, giggling, amateur. Oh she was dynamite in cowgirl, and good in missionary, but not dynamite enough to make up for the annoying things...and far overall from the GFE+ sales pitch.

    No names, maybe, until I can write the whole story to be fair, but eventually it will come out.

    Lesson: you're never too experienced to make a mistake.

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    My very first SP experience which was in a snowboarding trip to Vail, CO. Called some "agency" from the phone book. What came over was an old Italian lady with a stinky unshaved bush. It was so nasty (that bush) and uneventful to the point where things only ended with a handjob. It was I can say the WORST experience ever. Swore off hobbying.

    Then two years later after some bored surfing I found that spreadsheet and then this board. After reading for about four days I booked a flight to Montreal and things haven't been the same ever since. The experiences were great except that I picked a shitty hotel (Hilton Bonaventure). Another newbie mistake. Then went back a month later after my first encounter and only saw one girl for five days. Stayed at the Sofitel this time. Looking back now I say another rookie mistake. Should of saw other girls and shouldn't be so hung up on just one.

    From reading this board and a few others I have learned is that to know who you want to see (if an agency) and stick to your guns. Once calling the agency and the girl you want to see is not available, hope you have a plan B or C girl. If not don't fall for some sales pitch. Just politely say thank you and move on to the next agency. If it is an indy still have a plan B or C back up just in case she flakes out on you which happened to me once with an FKS girl who went independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLOUD 500 View Post
    Cannot comment much on escorts since I hardly book them however I made some newbie mistakes when going on take out with strippers. One of the biggest mistake is paying the girl before service is provided. Never ever pay her first cuz more often then not when they do they will screw you over. I learned that the hard way.
    This is completely the oposite for me. I ALWAYS pay in advance, i mention "that is for a start, up to you to make me continue" or something like that, and when the first 2 dances are done, i decide if i pay again for a couple more or not. I ALWAYS mention to the girl, i pay first, you dance for what i pay, thats it. I saw a friend of mine let the girl dance because he was too high and realize just after he was way over his budget... thanks for him, he had money in his bank account, and there was an AMT, but he ended up paying 150$ for what he tough was 80$.

    Also, do you count your dances when your having fun? When your to take 6-7 dances, especially if this boom boom club music ain't your kind like me, you have the impression that all songs are the same, and at one point you loose count, you could miss one and don't know.

    Nop really, for strippers, paying in advance is way better. I don't care of pulling out the wallet and paying every 2-3 dances.


    Some of those agencies are actually MERB advertisers, and the newbies made the mistake of believing that if an agency advertises on MERB, it is automatically legitimate and 100% B&S proof
    Why they let these agencies operate? And i think exept maybe escort-express wich always had a soso at best reputation here, the rest pretty much are well known and not B&S. Of course i don't know all of them, but the most well known.

    Whether you're new or experienced your worst enemy is a good sales pitch
    Of course there interest is to promote there ladies, especially a lady that is currently not booked, and its not because she is currently avalaible that she is not as good as any other, but better known your stuff before accepting a replacement. Usually when i get offer a replacement, unless i already know the girl(by picsture and reviews i mean) i usually say ill think about it and call back if i want to see her. I know the booker won't hesitate to book her with somebody anyway so im not wasting there time, and then i check pictures, reviews, i decide if im ok with it or not.
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    Halloween Mike,

    I was referring to take out. If you ever do take out with a stripper NEVER PAY UPFRONT. She will most likely scam you. The amount of stories I heard is incredible and this was coming out of my regulars who admitted to scamming some of their clients because they really did not want to have take out with them but needed the money. I got scammed once I payed upfront then she said she cannot do DFK.

    As for dances also I do not pay upfront. Some bad girls go cut you short if you do others will not be too enthusiastic to give you good service especially if you only give her $20. If they think you got money to spend they will put out their best to give you better cuz they want the money. I always count each and every song with them and after I pay them what I counted. That way there is no arguments. And I always maintain my budget. I go in with a set amount of cash and will not spend more then what I brought with me. I will never use the ATM machine. After I run out of cash in my pockets then fun is over.
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    Take outs? Huh ok, well not use to that, for me strippers are strippers, escorts are escorts, i never mix the 2, so i won't discuss tha point But for the dances... if you can count your dances after 8-9 then there is really something missing... the fun is surely not entirely there, cause i usually lost count pretty easily, well at least back then when i got there more, before i started to see escorts. If im having a good time its really not something i will count.I put 20$(or 40$ if its 20$ the dance) because i want to see if its gonna be fun, if the girl will please me. I saw girls that looked smoking hot and the service was sub par, so i didn't took too long and other girls that i barely accepted cause there was no girl really interesting me and she came asking me tuning out to be excellent times.

    Like i say, i always mention "if im having fun, ill take more" unless of course im there just for a couple dances wich happened in sherbrookes often as i ended up there after going to a regular bar, just to sneak peak and i had a 20 left...

    Usually i get good services...

    In any case that was mostly my life of before... lol, cause today i hardly take dances even when going. Unless there is a smoking hot girl or i jus feel grabbing a boobs, but if before i could easily put 60$ on dances(10$ each) or when going to quebec spend hundreds of $ beause all girls where smoking hot and it was 20$ per dances, now whats the point? For 200$(more or less) i can have full sex with the girl, spending over 30$ in a stripper booth looks stupid to me now... for just touching...
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    Kinda agree with you Mike; a stripper is a stripper and an escort is an escort. I never made the error ( I consider it is one) of accepting services from strippers. They probably don't have the open attitude that escorts will have. This being said, I dated a stripper back in the days and it was disastrous, but that's a different type of mistake...

    Now, as a newbie, I gotta say that when I started seeing escorts, 7-8 years ago, I would book for 3 hours (which is way too much, seriously, especially for a first encounter) and base my choice of girls on looks, which can be deceiving. I was also too shy and did not express my preferences and sexual needs; I remember Luna, a very hot girl with a mixed reputation as an SP, who sort of caught me off guard by saying "Well don't expect me to fuck you non-stop for 3 hours !!" That left me with the impression that I was too much of a pervert (well, I am, except that now I assume it..) so I spent most of the session chit chatting and controlling my desire to pound the girl !! Yeah, I know it sounds stupid and funny, but that's what happened... and I was too na´ve to see the strategies she was using to minimize contact (smoke breaks, "gee, I have no condoms left, go get some'', and even: "Let's change condoms"- In the middle of FS...)

    I was really shy and dumb, I can tell you honestly ! This Luna girl was my first escort... Thanks god, experience taught me that most girls are very warm, affectionate and kind...And that shyness has no place in the bedroom !!

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