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Tommy Morrison (Tommy Gunn in Rocky V) dead from HIV at age 44

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Hmmm,

many,many doctors told me only ways guys get hiv is from being the receiver(taking it in the ass)not the pusher...


I had to check this online. It didn't sound right.

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q191176.html?ic=2003

Can you get HIV by being the giver and not the receiver in Anal sex
Mar 6, 2008

Can you possibly advise if it is possible to get HIV by being the giver and not the receiver in anal sex (without protection). Many thanks in advance Matt.

Response from Dr. Frascino


Matt, unprotected penetrative sex of any type places you at risk of STDs, including HIV. Anal sex carries the highest risk for possible HIV transmission. As with any penetrative sex act (oral, vaginal or anal), the receptive partner (bottom) is at greater risk than the insertive partner (top) when having unprotected sex with an HIV-positive partner. Statistically speaking, insertive anal sex is significantly riskier than vaginal or oral sex.


It only makes sense. No one can have unprotected sex with any person who has Aids or any STD and be immune.

BTW...why have you asked many, many doctors? Professional survey? Intense personal curiosity?

I asked my doctor about giving oral sex to a woman concerning STDs. This is far, far less risky than anal and yet there's still no total immunity. So, if someone feels safe giving as opposed to receiving between gay lovers...HUGE MISTAKE!

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many,many doctors told me only ways guys get hiv is from being the receiver(taking it in the ass)not the pusher or sharing needles with infected people.
and for the record I use condoms and always have condoms with me

Ok you left yourself open on this one plus I have had a few cocktails.
Your post is about gays getting HIV and then you advertise that you always carry and use condoms. I take it to be safe you are the pusher?
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How do you know this? He had a number of drug convictions. I'm not aware of any public sources of information about how he contracted HIV.

He was quoted as saying that he led a "permissive, fast and reckless lifestyle." from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...vyweight-champion-dies-44-161542068--box.html

I assumed he had a lot of sex...that's fine. But, probably many partners w/o protection. As far as the conjecture that he got it from gay sex....I don't know.

He was quoted from

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...vyweight-champion-dies-44-161542068--box.html

as saying

"I thought the real danger of contracting this rested in the arms of those who subjected themselves to a certain kind of lifestyle--addicts who share needles and people who practice a homosexual lifestyle."

Maybe he's not a drug addict or a homosexual, so he thought he was safe.
 

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Who says he could only have gotten HIV from fucking a guy in the ass? You guy assume that fucking his girlfriend in the ass bareback is a risk free endeavor? She may have had 10 dicks in her ass, maybe all at once and Morrison got sloppy seconds.

However he got it, it is sad he lost his boxing career at 27 and died at 44. He was our great white hope.
 

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However he got it, it is sad he lost his boxing career at 27 and died at 44. He was our great white hope.[/QUOTE]

You couldn't have said it better. Those are words of wisdom:amen:
 

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Damn i loved Tommy Machine Gunn from the Rocky movies... Maybe not Ivan Drago, but liked the character and unlike many people really enjoyed Rocky 5...

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he led a very dangerous life, not the least multiple DUIs.
imho, like imho Magic Johnson did, he did get the HIV virus via his ass in some type of drug fueled 3some or maybe orgy.

also imho before he dies, if he lives long enough, Mike Tyson will come out as gay or maybe bi.
 

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Wasn't Tyson convicted of raping a woman? Why would a gay man want to rape a woman?

I think Mike got scammed on that charge, my memory could be wrong but I think it was right after OJ was found not guilty and they needed to convict a black man. Tyson claims he had sex with the lady and in the morning she wanted a ride home and he gave her some money for cab home and she was pissed. Again I could be wrong.
 

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Hello all,

...like imho Magic Johnson did, he did get the HIV virus via his ass in some type of drug fueled 3some or maybe orgy.

You're saying Magic Johnson is gay and got HIV from anal sex??? :rolleyes:

also imho before he dies, if he lives long enough, Mike Tyson will come out as gay or maybe bi.

OMG!!!

I respect the fact that people have their own "opinions". I never think mine is better than anyone else's. But what I find awful is when people make conclusions with no explanation that seem to be based on ignorance of HIV and gross outdated stereotypes.

I think Mike got scammed on that charge, my memory could be wrong but I think it was right after OJ was found not guilty and they needed to convict a black man.

The Tyson conviction was in 1991, the OJ murder charge 1994.

Who says he could only have gotten HIV from fucking a guy in the ass?

My earlier post was about a poor claim that givers of anal are immune. I agree completely that the view Morrison got HIV by anal sex or anything related to being homosexual is presumptive if not ridiculous.

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Transmission_9962.shtml While homosexuals still account for the largest HIV segment in the U.S. 57%, elsewhere the fastest growing population is heterosexual.

HIV transmitted through sexual activity among heterosexuals accounted for 31 percent of new infections, with most of these cases among women infected by men.

In Africa slightly more than 80 percent of infections are acquired heterosexually, while mother-to-child transmission and transfusions of contaminated blood account for the remaining infections. In Latin America, most infections are acquired by MSM and through misuse of injected drugs, but heterosexual transmission is rising. Heterosexual contact and injection of drugs are the main modes of HIV transmission in South and South East Asia.

The reason why sexual activity is a risk for HIV transmission is because it allows for the exchange of body fluids. Researchers have consistently found that HIV can be transmitted via blood, semen, and vaginal secretions.


He may have lived like a rutting stag, like many athletes, but presuming anything else about his preferences or orientation is a guess...nothing more. When I'm sharing a hobby with guys who imply being hetero makes what they do much safer it tells me how big the risk really is.

Ladies especially should be concerned about these dangerous misconceptions.

:rolleyes:

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I know this thread is for Tommy Gunn but being a Tyson fan.
Ok my OJ & Tyson dates were wrong and I found this on the net " Tyson quotes ". It could be bunk but.

"If I hit somebody, I'm sorry, if I cursed someone, I'm sorry if I did anything, but I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life apologizing to everyone. "Whatever happened, happened in the past, so what is it I should do? "You should take a survey for all these people that say... 'He's a bum, he's this.' What should I do? Should I just kill myself, should I shovel dog manure? What do they think I should really do? "Should I repent? Should I go to a monastery become a monk?" But one thing Mike Tyson insisted he will never apologize for is the 1992 hotel room rape crime that landed him behind bars for three years.
Mike Tyson still maintains he is innocent. He added, "I didn't do that. I got railroaded. I'm never going to apologize for something that I never did."
 

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The case against Tyson was indeed shaky, but gay guys generally do not end up with Black Miss Rhode Islands in their hotel rooms.

One other thing is that Tyson converted to Islam while in prison serving 3 years for that conviction. I never heard of anyone gay converting to Islam. Homosexuals are loathed in Islamic countries, even stoned to death in some cases.
 

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I think Mike got scammed on that charge. Tyson claims he had sex with the lady and in the morning she wanted a ride home and he gave her some money for cab home and she was pissed.

I always thought he was railroaded on that one. He's done a lot of bad things and a lot of stupid things but I think in that one particular case he was a victim.
 
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