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Thread: New Champlain bridge by 2018, and no tolls. What BS!!!

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    New Champlain bridge by 2018, and no tolls. What BS!!!

    The politicians have announced that they will build the Champlain bridge replacement by 2018. I would not be surprised if it too them past their original time estimated in 2020. Coderre and asshole Lisette has said that they will negotiate with the federal government for no tolls. What utter BS! There will be tolls, no matter what anyone will say.

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    By the ways it was closed on Sunday for repairs and I was forced to take the Victoria Bridge which is accessed by going all the way down rue de la Montagne, and then taking a right and going straight until you get to Bridge Street, at which you take a left. The Victoria is a creepy one lane steel drawbridge. Your car feels like it is slipping all over that bridge. Very creepy unnatural sensation.

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    I went over that bridge eons ago in a 4WD Subaru

    We were slipin and slidin

    Thought I was in a rally car

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    The sensation of that bridge is definitely freaky on first attempts. The first time I was on it I was in a borrowed M3 that was less than a week old, and I hit the grated flooring doing about 90...definitely not a good idea. If you keep it under 75 you still feel the pull from left to right, but traction is actually better than most asphalt roads, even if it feels a little funny.
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    Drove thousand of times and yes many times doing 'real test drive' with many different cars (not careless driving like the late ... ) and it is only creepy if your car is not well balanced or aligned.

    Basically if your car is in top shape there is no way it will skid or slide unless there is ice or snow.
    It is known thru out the 'real car enthusiasts' in the region that Victo's a good test drive for any car when you want to make sure it is well aligned and balanced.

    As for the Champlain bridge... we finally got everybody (even some hardcore federalists) admitting it was yet another fiasco from the retards in Ottawa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentle View Post
    Basically if your car is in top shape there is no way it will skid or slide unless there is ice or snow.
    It is known thru out the 'real car enthusiasts' in the region that Victo's a good test drive for any car when you want to make sure it is well aligned and balanced.

    As for the Champlain bridge... we finally got everybody (even some hardcore federalists) admitting it was yet another fiasco from the retards in Ottawa
    Complete nonsense. I had a long trip and drove over multiple bridges including the Pont Champlaign coming in to Montreal, and the only bridge on which my car was slipping and sliding was the Victoria Bridge. Made my car feel like a rally car. I thought I was going to crash through the railing and plunge into the St. Lawrence River several times during the crossing.
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    Depends on who the politician is... Surely a conservative government will build a bridge with tolls. If the liberals get elected then there is a chance for a toll free bridge. As for the Victoria bridge since I live in Old Montreal I usually take that bridge it takes some getting used to. That bridge never failed me... The other bridges and including the Lafontaine tunnel sometimes were closed. Now with the problems at the Champlain bridge the Mercier, Jacques-Cartier will be much more congested. Victoria is a very useful and reliable alternate bridge. It is the last one that people consider taking.
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    Totally agree about the Victoria. Went across it back in august and those were my thoughts exactly, "creepy" especially as i was the only vehicle on the bridge at the time... felt like i was slip sliding away. Could have been the car is was driving however, it is quite powerful.

    Saw a thread on tripadvisor about others feeling the same way about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    By the ways it was closed on Sunday for repairs and I was forced to take the Victoria Bridge which is accessed by going all the way down rue de la Montagne, and then taking a right and going straight until you get to Bridge Street, at which you take a left. The Victoria is a creepy one lane steel drawbridge. Your car feels like it is slipping all over that bridge. Very creepy unnatural sensation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    ...the only bridge on which my car was slipping and sliding was the Victoria Bridge.
    Is the Victoria the only drawbridge with a metal grid that you've ever driven over? There are many metal grid drawbridges in this world and they all feel the same and they're all quite safe. You should try going over one with a bike sometime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    Your car feels like it is slipping all over that bridge. Very creepy unnatural sensation.
    I remember driving on that bridge nearly 25 years ago. It reminded me of Sex.

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    They can say what they want, no tolls! When it is all built and the price is 5 times what is estimated today, they will cry for money.

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    There may not be "tolls"...but sure as shit your taxes will go up.

    Gonna have to pay for it some how...especially when it's late and over budget.

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    You misunderstood, no tolls but they really meant no Toll Booths

    There will be no toll booths but tolls will be recorded by a transponder in the car that is tied/charged to an account. If u have no transponder it will send u a bill recorded by picture of your license plate.

    Recording mechanism is above the traffic lanes. It is called flyover tolls. Then they will add it to more roads.

    Have it in States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadtripr View Post
    If u have no transponder it will send u a bill recorded by picture of your license plate
    Plus a nice little upcharge for the state

    Here in NJ, EZ Pass actually admitted that they didn't have the necessary tools in place to enforce the toll cheats a couple years ago

    Sorta like the " bailout " all over again

    People who are responsible and pay get fucked

    Irresponsible people get a " bailout "

    Voila '


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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    Complete nonsense....
    ..... Probably doesn't know about the craig curve or never went on Champlain when its windy with slippery conditions.
    Who cares !

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