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Halloween Mike

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Personellement je n'ai jamais eu autant de misère a voter parce que avant je m'en balancais un peu les couilles pour tout dire. Mals voila que cette année le debat est important...

Voyons un peu les parties et ce que j'en pense.

P.Quebecois : D'un coté je supporte a 100% la charte , et je suis aussi pour un referandum sur la souverainté, par contre je n'ai pas oublier ce que le P.Q a fait lors de la crise étudiante et je l'ai toujours en travers de la gorge. De plus je n'aime vraiment pas Pauline... si le partie pouvais changer de chef, sa aiderais beaucoup mon choix.

PLQ : Il n'y a pas grand chose qui m'interesse de ce coté, je ne conaissais pas du Couillars et plus je l'entend parler, plus je me dit mais quel Couillons... (pun intended) et je ne l'aime vraiment pas du tout.

CAQ : Je trouvais le discours de Legault un peu reveur depuis que la CAQ fait partie de l'equation, mais je commence a me dire que sa vaudrais la peine lui donner une chance. Il semble etre le plus sympatique des chefs, mais esce simple poudre au yeux pour aller chercher l'electorat? Peut-etre. Son plan général semble etre ce qui m'inspire le plus mais je n'aime pas son coté "la charte j'sais... le referendum j'sais pas..." il semble vouloir rester neutre ce qui me porte a croire que s'il est elue, sa ne bougera pas de ce coté.

Si le referendum est un plan futur et rien d'immediat, il reste que la charte elle est bien présente et dois etre adopter...

Du coup je ne sais pas du tout pour qui voter... je me demande si je dois passer par dessus mon degout de Pauline Marois pour voter P.Q, ce qui serais surement le choix le plus logique, better with the devils that i know... ou alors je fait confiance a l'inconnue et m'en vais du coté CAQ en peut-etre me plantant royalement...

Bien sur mon ptit vote tout seul n'a pas une grande incidence, mais ces plus a titre significatif que je dit sa...

Et vous qu'allez vous faire?
 

FrankTheStang

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Voici de mon opinion sur le sujet: Ils sont tous corrumpus, voleurs, violeurs(portefeuille), et non-fiable. Qui dans la foule va etre le moindre des fléaux. On s'entend aussi que la province ainsi que le pays on besoin de changement. Pour s'y rendre a tel changement, malheureusement ca va prendre un gouvernement majoritaire, ce qui laisse deux choix encore une fois, le PLQ et le PQ.

Avec ces deux choix la, je vote qu'on est foutu dans merde sans issue. En tout cas, revenant aux choix, ca ne donne pas beaucoup d'espoir d'un bord ou de l'autre...

My 2 cents
 

Doggyluver

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I don't vote. I refuse to take part in this joke called Democracy. :deadhorse:

Be glad that you are involved in a Democracy.....joke as you call it. There are still many in the world who do not have the ability nor the right to cast a ballot and take part in the decision making process called democracy. I'm sure if asked they would love to be in the position that you so take for granted !
 

blkone

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Be glad that you are involved in a Democracy.....joke as you call it. There are still many in the world who do not have the ability nor the right to cast a ballot and take part in the decision making process called democracy. I'm sure if asked they would love to be in the position that you so take for granted !

It's not even a real "Democracy." Two years ago I went out to start a political party because I still believed in the process, got the signatures and everything else that was required and posted them off to Elections Canada and was denied a listing because my party's platform was too closely related to National Socialism even though it was not anti-Semitic (Note : You can openly be a Communist party regardless of the fact that Communism is responsible for millions of deaths worldwide, go figure). So, even though I did everything that was required of me I was still denied the right to participate in Canadian Politics because my party was not a mirror image of every other party. That's all we have, one choice, the same party with slight differences in policy proposals. Freedom of choice? Puh-lease. It's an illusion.

I plan to do it again, but, I need a whole new list of signatures (and they can't be duplicates) and find the patience to fill out the forms and blah blah blah. The run around basically.

Being a bit wiser to this sham (that's what it is) I plan to just make cookie cutter proposals just like every other party does and then once I am registered, do as I originally planned all along.

There are a lot of pissed off soldiers coming back from Afghanistan, I will use that to my advantage this time around.

(You should lecture them about how great Democracy is. LOL!)
 

Siocnarf

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Moi je ne vote pas pour les chef de parti, mais plutôt en fonction des députés de ma circonscription.
 

HornyForEver

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D'habitude je ne sais pas pour qui voter et je finissais toujours par voter pour un parti différent des partis qui sont dans la course. Par contre, cette année, je savais dès le premier jour que j'allais voter pour le PLQ. Ça sera la première fois que je vote pour ce parti. Je ne peux pas donner mon vote à un parti plus sympathique cette fois, par ce que l'enjeu est important et le candidat péquise a failli être élu dans mon secteur en 2012.

Marois a lancé des élections hativement avant que les histoires du financement du PQ sortent au grand jour, un calcul politique pur et simple, elle s'enfout éperdument du Québec.
 

blkone

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Oh it's a democracy alright. In a diverse body politic of 33 million people, successful political parties will look for broad appeal among those 33 million - this is the so-called "centre". Successful parties seek out the centre. Off-centre parties remain at the margins.



I call BS on this one. Political parties do not have to file or even reveal their platform when registering with Elections Canada.

1. You keep telling yourself that. You have more or less the illusion of choice. But sure, we can seek out the center and use the sham to get rid of it.

2. "The leader's declaration in the prescribed form that having considered all the factors relevant to determining the party's purposes, one of the party's fundamental purposes is to participate in public affairs by endorsing one or more of its members as candidates and supporting their election."(http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=pol&dir=pol/bck&document=index&lang=e)

And there is more than that.

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Go brush up a little on Canada's "vibrant" Democracy.
 

charmer_

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I don't vote. I refuse to take part in this joke called Democracy. :deadhorse:

Well then don't bitch and complain about whomever is in office afterwards.
 

blkone

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Well then don't bitch and complain about whomever is in office afterwards.

I never do. It's not whose in office that bugs me, it's the (sham) Democratic system itself that I despise.

Keep beating that dead horse!
 

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Je prefere Legeault,c'est le seul qui propose vraiment un coup de barre pour le futur.Le PQ et Le PlQ utilisent toujours la meme recette de fausses promesses .Votz Legeault
 

SylvainP

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HFE, les deux grands partis d'opposition menaçaient de voter contre le budget avant qu'il ne soit présenté: cela aurait entraîné des élections de toutes façons. On aurait encore accusé le PQ.
 

Yannmondoux

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Votons pour le moins pire, mais Pauline Marois moi j'pas capable, avec toutes les magouilles qu'on a entendu ou qu'on connait même, et surtout quand on essaie de passer des amis comme fonctionnaire permanent à gros salaire à vie ( comme Boisclair...dont un de ceux qu'on connait, et ce sans connaitre les autres). La classe moyenne s'appauvrit toujours et quand on voit les augmentations électriques aujourd'hui de presque 5% quand pkp était sur conseil administration, les taxes scolaires, etc... Votez ça va être dure
 

michael99

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It's actually pretty straight forward for me.
The PQ has demonstrated in the last year and a half that they have no clue how to run a government.
In the 2013/14 fiscal year Quebec will receive almost 8 Billion dollars in equalization payments, more than double than the next highest recipient.
On top of that income taxes are higher in Quebec than any other province in Canada and the infrastructure, especially in Montreal where I live, is crumbling.
Too me that mans the economy in Quebec is broken big time compared to the other provinces.
The charter and the referendum are just distractions from the real issue that affects people - the economy of this province.

The CAQ doesn't have ahope of forming a majority government.
Leaves the Liberals.

I think Quebecers need to get out of the province more and visit other places to get a better feel in what lousy shape Quebec is in.
Just driving into the US or Ontario will make that immediately apparent.

There is no basic reason why the economy in Quebec is in such poor shape other than inept governments over the years.
The PQ had their chance to turn things around and they failed miserably - that's why they keep pushing the Charter and Referendum scenario which are highly emotional issues and hope Quebecers forget about the real issues facing Quebec.

Anyway, that's how I see it.
 
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