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    Hassled at the border.

    US border patrol always hassles me at the boarder for my one day trips from NYC no matter what I tell them like casino, skiing and etc. My last trip was over an hour of detention while they search my car. Would it help if I just told them I was there to hobby? How long can they really hold you?

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    Last time for me last year they seach in my car for at least 3hours.they can holdyou i think for long if you don't cooperate with the agent border.

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    There are numerous border threads if you do a search:

    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...ghlight=border
    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...ghlight=border
    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...ghlight=border
    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...ghlight=border
    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...ghlight=border

    Same stuff posted over and over........and there is about 10 other threads I did not post, because they too are the same stuff over and over.

    One night trips are always going to be tough to explain, if you do not have the excuse of family living in the area.

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    Funny thing, flying in as I did for GG3 there was no hassle and I only stayed 2 nights. In fact I have never been hassled the numerous times I have flown into Montreal. Driving over is another story. In November I drove up from Connecticut for 1-night I got the 9th degree. On the return trip, I told them I went over for dinner and the US guy wasn't buying it. I said I went to some clubs and that was more plausible. He still searched my car. So be prepared. Say your going to Cleopatra's. I have never been in Cleopatra but when I am driving there without a business purpose I will say this. Come to think of it, even with a business purpose I should probably say Cleopatra's. I was stopped at the border and I had to produce a letter and phone numbers and then I was told to pull over and I had to sit inside for 45 minutes etc. etc.

    Driving over is always a hassle. Flying in is the way to go.

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    Why does US border patrol stop you on the way in to Canada? Isn't it just the Canadian border crossing? I guess you mean on the return trip back in to the states.

    The reason is that you spent 6 hours driving up and 6 hours driving back to stay what 24 hours.

    Your short stay fits the profile that you're either bringing drugs back and bringing cash up.

    Stay a few days longer or just fly direct out of Newark on Sat and return on Monday on one of United's specials.

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    Flying isn't foolproof either; when I flew to Vegas last month I was detained for an hour on my way down, even with a Nexus (trusted traveler) card. Their biggest concern seemed to be whether I would be working when I was there; maybe because I'm there so often.
    It is much better now than it used to be for women traveling alone, years ago I used to get stopped all the time.

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    Sorry EB, this has probably been asked somewhere else:

    What about:

    "Hi officer, it was a leisure trip."

    "12 hours drive for a 24 hours leisure trip?"

    "Yep.I go there to meet escorts in a country where it's legal".

    Any law in the US that forbids to hobby outside your country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbymaster View Post
    US border patrol always hassles me at the boarder for my one day trips from NYC no matter what I tell them like casino, skiing and etc. My last trip was over an hour of detention while they search my car. Would it help if I just told them I was there to hobby? How long can they really hold you?
    I drive up often, but I stay for at least 2-3 days. Every now and again I'll be asked to pull over and get checked out a little further. But, it's no longer than a half hour and my car has never been searched going to Canada. Coming back the US border agents will pretty much always ask you to pop the trunk and they briefly look through your stuff. US agents are more extensive about asking what you were up to, but your usually on your way in a few minutes. A one day trip will always be scrutinized, your driving 6+ hours each way to spend 24 hours in Montreal. It makes sense to me, especially a few years ago when the talent was so much better. When Eleganza had an all star line up and the option to pre book a week in advance my buddies and I would drive up on Friday and come back on Sunday regularly. Now it's mostly retreads, the same old girls simply going from agency to agency. Sorry, back to the topic.

    EB is correct, if you don't have a reasonable excuse for coming up for just one day you will be hassled.

    CWipes has the right idea, when possible book a flight out of Newark airport when United has their specials for around $180 round trip. I've done this numerous times and when asked by the border agents about only staying for a day or two I just let them know the trip was really cheap so I figured I would come up.

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    And do think about what you pack...

    When I was waiting for the border agent they were questioning some guy who apparently had a history, something about illegal importation of a luxury car. Anyway they brought out his suitcase and the agent was looking through it. She asked him "is everything in here yours?". He said it was, and she responded "looks like you have more than a car fetish". I couldn't help but laugh out loud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugu View Post
    Any law in the US that forbids to hobby outside your country?
    Yes, if you seek minors. Read this from Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE):

    https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/12...shingtondc.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWipes View Post
    Why does US border patrol stop you on the way in to Canada? Isn't it just the Canadian border crossing? I guess you mean on the return trip back in to the states.

    The reason is that you spent 6 hours driving up and 6 hours driving back to stay what 24 hours.

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    It was coming back in I was stopped and search on that trip by some dick at the border. He didn't like the statement I came over for dinner. Coming to see strippers was more plausible.

    Also, driving over for business I have had the longest delays.

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    Canadian side is less hassles. I only got ask inside once to count how much cash I was bring in with no car search but the US side is worse. The US side seems to harp on monetary instruments including checks, stocks, bonds and gold. They had me read the law about carrying $10,000 is legal but must be declared or face forfeiting it. They then had me fill out the declaration. I forget I had collected some rent checks from my tenants in New York that amount to near $10,000 that I brought with me. They took those checks and my cell phone for the hour of detention.
    Once on another trip they were harping on drugs. They started by said that their dogs smell drugs in the car so to save them the trouble of a continued search that I should just confess. Three of them started to yell at me that their dogs are never wrong and that it would be easier on me to confess. I tell them it is impossible because I do not use drugs and the car is never lent out to anyone. They then replied that some one had drugs in there at some point in time but I am free to go. What pricks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    It was coming back in I was stopped and search on that trip by some dick at the border. He didn't like the statement I came over for dinner. Coming to see strippers was more plausible.

    Also, driving over for business I have had the longest delays.
    I think coming to see strippers will be for my next trip.

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    [QUOTE=hungry101;773998 I was stopped at the border and I had to produce a letter and phone numbers and then [/QUOTE]

    Produce what kind of letter? If you don't mind. I don't understand.


    I travel through Coburn Gore, which isn't exactly the busiest border crossing (non-lumber division) and I have had no problems entering Canada. My vehicle gets searched on the way back about half the time. I went to Q.C once (different crossing) and the CA border patrol asked me to come into the building and sit for a while and answer the same questions 3 times. It was a little bothersome, but I did have to use the bathroom, so that was an unintended benefit. Border with N.B. is a little bigger deal and they are pretty consistent with a lengthy interview both ways.


    As part of my search for cheaper hotel dates, I noted all the upcoming Montreal Festivals, and I think the "Anarchist Book Sale" would probably be one of the worst choices to blurt out when the customs official asks about your trip (either way, but especially coming back to the US)!

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    Once you get flagged, you get hassled all the time. Get use to it.

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