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Thread: New HARPER proposed ANTI-prostitution law: The END for MERB, TERB and alike ?

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    New HARPER proposed ANTI-prostitution law: The END for MERB, TERB and alike ?

    The Harper government has deposit their response to the Supreme court of Canada ruling on prostitution.
    YUP....as expected, this government decide to ''criminilize'' even more than before.

    This time..publicity written and internet is targeted.
    Most of all, in order to simplify the law suits....it is the owners of MERB, TERB and alike (ex: Quebecor owners for journal de Montreal
    that will be sued).

    I think every MERB and Terb members should send in a $10Cdn (we are over 265,000 members) to a law firm
    so they could bring the Government to court on this.
    There is a fast track to Supreme court (quite expensive)...
    Who cares ?
    Girls have to be able to operate in a safe way.
    They have to be free to manage their career as they wish.

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    I would be all for this.

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    Take a fraction of that money and move the server to a friendly offshore country where prostitution is legal. That has been the solution in the US forever with respect to review sites, although I have no idea whether that strategy works under Canadian law. Take the rest of the donations to help with a real legal challenge from those who will be heard. This law will not be overturned quickly based on a suit brought by johns frustrated by their inability to openly discuss committing criminal acts. A lawsuit by sex workers using the Bedford case as precedent is a different story.

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    Sight....let's fuck while we still can.

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    Let's not over-react.

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    Hello Gentlemen,

    If the law passes it seems that paid sexual adventures north of the border will be much like what it has always been to the south in the U.S.. It won't be the end of the world, it will just take a little more nerve than it used to. I've dealt with it before and so have many of us. Sorry to see the easy times may disappear, but if they do there's just a harder reality to deal with. Once things get reorganized the situation may feel much like normal, except for the possible consequences.

    What bewilders me a little bit regarding us is why a safe system of internet communication wasn't setup previously? Everyone knew the this was coming. Why not have been more proactive in prevention??? According to one native Montrealer I know, the proposition is unlikely to pass. That still should not change the urgency of making sure a safe system is put into effect so that possibilities in the future will not have the kind of effect of causing the worries about this board and good communications that are happening right now.



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    I have a fiend who just sent me a message saying that now escorting was illegal and i could end up getting 18 months to 5 years in prison i was like WWHHHHAAAT? Of could this happen so fast just like that? But let me get it right... so its the internet and journal that is targetted? And this has not passed yet right? It will take time i supose??? Is there any risk for us the customers? And finally does this has chance to pass at all?
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    Mike, the new law is NOT passed. It has to be evaluated by a commity, voted and approved by the senate. It probably won't be ready before the end of the year, if it passes. And tell your friend that if he ever bought a gift to a girl in the hope of scoring he is also a criminal according to that bill. I am not joking.
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    Like one of my teacher once said: you're allowed to break the rules, but you're not allowed to get caught.

    There's something I don't understand. If the government can just make a law that's pretty much the same as before, what is preventing them from doing that again when this new one gets struck down?

    Even if it becomes law as is, if most of the legal experts say it won't stand a challenge, will the police and judges even bother enforcing it while it's being challenged? When the similar law was passed in Sweden, there was no one really speaking against it and the government boosted the police budget to at least try and enforce it to some extent. Here and now it's quite different. I hear even in Sweden, the judges are not that impressed with that law and the conviction rate is very low.
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    I see, so the only way its change is if another party take power? But would they really change it? Im so depressed at this shit really. Maybe in fact it won't change much but the simple fact that it would be considered breaking the law and i would have a risk piss me off... And how about the agencies, will they have to move there website on euro servers???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    A lawsuit by sex workers using the Bedford case as precedent is a different story.
    This was my suggestion: to send in $10 each to the sex workers group fighting for their rights to be safe in their working environment.
    Lawsuits to Supreme court cost a lot.
    The sex worker group should take Harper's government to court as soon as the law is effective (fast track).
    This is now a political fight. Mr Harper has defied again the Supreme court by tabling this law.
    He showed..again a total disrespect for the court's ruling of last december.
    We live in a democracy, where we can act and influence things.
    $ is the tool to defeat Mr Harper's government.
    Let's give the ladies lawyers all the money they need to fight for our
    GOD giving right to pas an hour with the lady of our choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Mike View Post
    I see, so the only way its change is if another party take power? But would they really change it? Im so depressed at this shit really. Maybe in fact it won't change much but the simple fact that it would be considered breaking the law and i would have a risk piss me off... And how about the agencies, will they have to move there website on euro servers???
    That has not been the trend in most countries with criminalization. The agencies are careful to not advertise sexual services, but instead provide a link to review boards that feature "fictional" writing and whose servers are maintained in a decriminalized country. In other words, the agencies merely arrange for time and companionship and are careful to not advertise sex.

    You have to maintain some sense of humor about this Halloween Mike. On terb I noticed that a poster said he would be increasing his trips to Cuba. Who would have ever dreamed that Comrade Fidel would offer more human rights protections to participants in the sex industry than once progressive Canada. Realistically, most of us deal with the purchase of sex being technically illegal in many of the countries in which we exchange money for sex. If Canada enforces this law in the same manner as most countries with criminal statutes, everything will be fine ( and things will be even better once it is repealed but apparently that is a long process). The attraction of Montreal was never really the legality, but instead the great service at much lower prices than elsewhere in North America. I am as worried about the prices skyrocketing as I am about criminalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miko View Post
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    This was my suggestion: to send in $10 each to the sex workers group fighting for their rights to be safe in their working environment.
    Lawsuits to Supreme court cost a lot.
    The sex worker group should take Harper's government to court as soon as the law is effective (fast track).
    This is now a political fight. Mr Harper has defied again the Supreme court by tabling this law.
    He showed..again a total disrespect for the court's ruling of last december.
    We live in a democracy, where we can act and influence things.
    $ is the tool to defeat Mr Harper's government.
    Let's give the ladies lawyers all the money they need to fight for our
    GOD giving right to pas an hour with the lady of our choice.
    Miko
    As soon as such a group can be identified, I will PayPal them what I can.

    I do not want to send it to Ms. Bedford, however, since I think she is largely to blame for this cyclone of shit. You learn that it is a big world and you compromise. Canada had a great sex work system for all. So what if her S&M dungeon needed to be somewhere other than her residential neighborhood.

    I am still bewildered by the provisions of the new law defining things used to tie someone down as being a weapon. Was that somehow a slap in the face to Ms. Bedford? It is not like Canada did not already have a criminal statute involving violent rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post

    You have to maintain some sense of humor about this Halloween Mike. I am as worried about the prices skyrocketing as I am about criminalization.
    Well yeah i guess it won't change much for us the customers, i mean does one clerk would really the call the police because he think you just called an escort? That would be kinda insane, also there is so many loophole that one can use... if the police burst your hotel room, you can always said you met in a bar, you where having a good time, anyway i don't feel there is much chance that this could result in me getting arrested... Even in the states, they usually arrest guys by having a female cop posed as a street walker...

    I just don't like how the whole thing is happening... just the feeling of the little risk bug me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halloween Mike View Post
    Well yeah i guess it won't change much for us the customers, i mean does one clerk would really the call the police because he think you just called an escort? That would be kinda insane, also there is so many loophole that one can use... if the police burst your hotel room, you can always said you met in a bar, you where having a good time, anyway i don't feel there is much chance that this could result in me getting arrested... Even in the states, they usually arrest guys by having a female cop posed as a street walker...

    I just don't like how the whole thing is happening... just the feeling of the little risk bug me...
    The cops do not bust into a hotel room anywhere in the civilized world. That only happens on really bad television programs designed to captivate audiences with no education or reasoning ability, i.e., a large percentage of the nightly American television viewing audience.

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