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    Lightbulb Club Le Gentleman... In Marieville ---> To be BOYCOTTED

    I'm not sure if I should mention the club's name or not... I mean I don't want to end up killed or anything !!! Or sued for telling the truth to the unaware. But I really feel the need to let this out because it really bothers me, and I feel disgusted about this... So here it goes, and may God be with me and protect me!

    The first time I went to work at CLUB LE GENTLEMAN in MARIEVILLE was in summer 2011. As a new girl in the club, the manager (I wish I could remember his name), asked me to follow him to talk in private about the "Rules" of the club. So the manager went on and told me about the "Rules", rules I've already heard before in every other stripclub I've been to. But then at some point he told me about their WONDERFUL UNIQUE RULE ---> DANCERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK OR DANCE WITH BLACK MEN... UNLESS THEY ASK THE MANAGER'S PERMISSION... THIS PERMISSION IS GRANTED IF, AND ONLY IF HE KNOWS FOR SURE THAT THE BLACK GUYS AREN'T PIMPS... SO IF HE DOESN'T KNOW THE BLACK GUYS OR NEVER SEEN THEM BEFORE, THEN THOSE BLACK GUYS DON'T GET NO WOMEN... When I asked the manager why the club had such a rule, he said that "It's for our girls' safety, to prevent pimps from bothering our girls", and he added "I know that there's bad White people too, there's bad people in every race". After that night, I swore never to go back to that club again, not even for drinks, not even to drop off or pick up my friends. But earlier this year, my booker accidently booked me there, so I went back, the manager didn't recognize me and he let me know, once again, about the club's "Wonderful Unique Rule"...

    As a BLACK woman that is very proud of her heritage, and as a person with a very strong sense of justice, I am really ANGERED and HURT by this, and kind of FEEL HELPLESS.

    They clearly don't want BLACK MEN in their club. They know they can't put up signs on their front door that say "NO BLACK, MULATTO, OR NIGGER MALES", so they do it the conniving, hypocrite way, and MAKE SURE THAT BLACK MEN DON'T HAVE A GOOD TIME IN THEIR CLUB UNTIL THEY STOP GOING TO THEIR CLUB, AND DECIDE TO TAKE THEIR BLACKNESS ELSEWHERE.

    CLUB LE GENTLEMAN happily allows Black men to spend their hard earned money on COVER CHARGE, DRINKS, and TIPS, but don't allow them to ENJOY CONVERSATION or DANCES with the strippers. (This is what they paid to get in for... Just like any other Caucasian, Asian, or Hispanic custumer.)

    Isn't this similar to the pimp that doesn't care about his victim, and uses her for financial profits??? CLUB LE GENTLEMAN doesn't care about Black men, and uses them for financial profits. And at the same time, uses Black dancers to attract custumers. If they hate Black men, they must hate Black women equally, they just want their 100$ bar service.

    THIS IS WORST THAN JUST HAVING A LIMIT OF BLACK STRIPPERS.
    (Which is common and now "normal" and "accepted")

    1. Not all Black men are pimps, drug dealers, thugs, and live a life of crime.
    2. It is not in a Black man's genes to become so, or nature to be so.
    3. You cannot qualify a Black man a pimp, drug dealer, thug, or criminal, just because he dresses, talks, or acts a certain way. Some just have bad manners or are uneducated, this could happen in any ethnicity.

    PIMP OR NOT, a man will respect a confident woman that respects herself and stands up for herself. If a girl is innocent, clueless, slow, dependent, craves and needs love, affection and attention, or if she's fearful and just can't speak up, and ends up falling in the traps of a pimp, then that is her own problem. (Yes it is wrong and sad though.)



    Bottom line: CLUB LE GENTLEMAN SHOULD BE BOYCOTTED.

    I think any Black person who is proud to be Black, and who is in his or her right mind, would not physically or financially encourage anything that is racist primarily against Black people.

    And any person, no matter the ethnicity, who believes in justice and equality would stop going to that club, because GOING TO THAT CLUB OR WORKING AT THAT CLUB IS SUPPORTING RACISM.


    THIS IS MY OPINION... YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN.



    WERE YOU AWARE OF THIS?

    HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CLUB'S RULE?

    ARE YOU WILLING TO BOYCOTT THE CLUB BECAUSE OF THIS?
    (Or anything supporting racism)

    DO YOU THINK CUSTUMERS COULD HELP CHANGE SOME CLUBS OPINION ABOUT BLACK MEN AND BLACK STRIPPERS?

    IF YOU HAVE WORKED AT THAT CLUB, OR HAVE WENT TO THAT CLUB, PLEASE SHARE WHAT YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED.

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    This is a great club. As one of the few left of its kind in the province, it doesn't need that kind of smear campaign. Your post is pointless.

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    I have only been once and as a white male I can't say I had a bad time. I met the hottest ebony girl I have ever met in person that night and spent some time at my table with her and several other dancers just having drinks and a great time. Took her for 2 dances at the end of the night. It is a shame about your experience Mocha but I dont really know what else to say as I only had a great time my one and only time there so far.

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    I have been here too It was years ago...probably ~2007or 2008 I think. One of my best friend was with me who happens to be very black. In fact he is as dark as night. There were no problems. But he doesn't look like a pimp daddy (he is from west Africa). He did not session but that is because he is a cheap skate. We ended up having a great time anyway. We went there because they had closed the Grand Prix.

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    Primo merci Mocha de nous mettre au courant des pratiques douteuses, archaiques, illegales, ignobles et xenophobes de cet etablissement..
    Je n'y ai jamais mis les pieds et a partir d'aujourdhui je tacherais d'en parler a tous ceux que je cotoie au travail ou dans ma vie sociale qui est representative du Montreal cosmopolite donc ce ne sera qu'une question de temps que le soi disant Gentleman revendique la reputation de club raciste qu'il merite d'emblee.. en plus j'ai une grande gueule d'ou leur malheur.
    Amen sister d'avoir denonce ce taudis moral.
    Cela prouve que Vanessa Stiviano est l'exception qui confirme la regle quand il s'agit de votre fierte.

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    I have been to Le Gent many, many times and I have never heard or seen any problems with black men, I have also seen black men having a good time there so I cannot attest to what Mocha is claiming, it is by far my favorite club to visit.

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    Same experience as H101.. last year, I went to LeGent with a black dude friend... and also from West Coast of Africa...
    He is as black as black can be ... really dark skin lol but yeah same he doesn't act or behave like all those wannabe yo black dudes.
    We had a great time .. as H101 said, we also experienced same stuff.. not dancing any girls as choice and quality that night was very low BUT we talked to some girls... Well yeah we were 3 white guys and 1 black guy.
    So after 1h we went straight to 10/35 where we also had a nice time and 10/35 is the place where there is the best ebony strippers ratio for entire QC province !

    Speaking of that most clubs do not have this problem as they simply do not let some "ethnic" guys enter the club unless they know them!
    I understand you Mocha ... Oui it is very sad ... Obviously it is racial profiling (not sure for my english here) and the good guy pays for some bad guys!
    If I understand you correctly Mocha; LeGent is the only club that enforce this "no talk no dance black guys unless boss agreement" rule?

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    I used to go there a lot in the past and always had a good time, can not comment on the black issues due to not seeing and black customers in the place.
    The boycott is going to be a tough one.
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    I have never been to this club and probably never will be because it is to far outside of mtl for me. Boycotts on this type of forum have little to no chance of working. The last boycott that i can recall on merb was one member trying to get people to boycott a certain agency but in the meantime he was continuing to see ladies from that agency. LOL

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    I remember that, dispicable. When you cross the picket lines you will forever be remembered as a scab. And if I am correct I think it was a boycott of ALL agencies who advertised on another board that were also advertising here and all because of certain members (mainly just 2 or 3 and only one of them remains here) not liking others on the other board.. All that was kinda silly if you ask me. Just hug it out I say.
    Quote Originally Posted by jeff jones View Post
    The last boycott that i can recall on merb was one member trying to get people to boycott a certain agency but in the meantime he was continuing to see ladies from that agency. LOL

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    my how times change, most of those agencies are long gone.

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    Hello all,

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff jones View Post
    The last boycott that i can recall on merb was one member trying to get people to boycott a certain agency but in the meantime he was continuing to see ladies from that agency.
    It was a boycott of the advertisers on another board, but the leader did break that by seeing ladies from one of those agencies. A pretty bad move, that shows it's not possible to hold anyone accountable where all the members are are anonymous, which is the unavoidable fault with any of these boycotts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Birds View Post
    ...it doesn't need that kind of smear campaign. Your post is pointless.
    Sorry Birds, but why is it a "smear campaign"? It seems very few of us have had the guts or the honor to point out negatives on anything these days. Agencies are perfect, bookers are perfect, escorts are perfect. These people in their passive and often exuberant support/butt licking are all complicit in helping to raise the very prices they keep complaining about. Then when anyone tries to bring out anything that isn't gushing with...can I kiss your ass today...it's a smear campaign. There's so much kissing these days it seems like the lap dog club around here. It's to our own detriment to discourage people from reporting problems, especially newbies when some regulars are kissing so often...or pushing the kissing.

    Regrading the thread subject more specifically, putting all other issues aside, the lady is reporting a racist policy at a popular strip club. If one doesn't believe her or knows nothing about her credibility then they can make a fair free choice on how to deal with the report. We can all compare it with other reports already given that this might not be such a problem. People should look at the information and those giving it and decide for themselves what to do, NOT attack a person because one doesn't like the information....unless they can show or prove bias. There could be something going on despite what we see when we are all drunk and too over-excited by so much tits and ass to care about anything else. It's still possible, and it's something that should be addressed to any potential clients.

    Personally, it seems like a big risk to tell all of your ladies not to "talk or dance with Black men." It leaves the club open to lawsuits when they make very clear racist comment like inferring all Black men as pimps. Why not just tell all the ladies to report any enticements against the club. Yeah, I know some ladies will play it in their own interests, but it sure beats the risks of putting out an openly racist agenda to all the ladies which they could then attest to.

    Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx View Post
    Just hug it out I say.


    Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx View Post
    When you cross the picket lines you will forever be remembered as a scab.
    When a mod brands one as a SHILL it's forever too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx View Post
    I remember that, dispicable. When you cross the picket lines you will forever be remembered as a scab. And if I am correct I think it was a boycott of ALL agencies who advertised on another board that were also advertising here and all because of certain members (mainly just 2 or 3 and only one of them remains here) not liking others on the other board.. All that was kinda silly if you ask me. Just hug it out I say.
    Silly? That boycott was a success. That forum is almost dead. The target was the owner of the forum. He knew damn well what was going on and did nothing. That said, I will not comment on that club.

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    Yes silly and there really is no way to prove if it was a success or not but I highly doubt it was. I would not know if it is dead, I have never made one post there and rarely visit. Anyways this is Mocha's thread and we should get back on topic for her.
    Quote Originally Posted by gugu View Post
    Silly? That boycott was a success.

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    My post can only be pointless if you do not understand the message I am trying to send out, or if RACISM isn't a cause that affects you personnally and/or morally.

    The BOYCOTT title was just to express my desire for at least Black people to stop going to that club. I'm realistic and aware that me and my One Woman Army and this post aren't going to get the club boycotted today or any other day until shut down!!! Maybe I'm wrong or pessimistic, but in my opinion the club has nothing to fear really, because it has been around for years, and has it's own satisfied clientele and strippers that bring in good income.

    The main purpose of my post was to make people aware of the racist rule that CLUB LE GENTLEMAN has concerning Black men. Racism in the clubs is underground and sometimes only the staff is aware of it, as the club is not going to deliberately tell their custumers that they have racist rules like that... I also wanted to express my feelings and opinion about this.

    First of all, I did not say I had a bad experience at the club, and I did not say that the club itself was bad either. I will be fair and confirm that:
    1. I have made good money there.
    2. It's a nice looking club (not the nicest).
    3. You can find alot of beautiful young girls.
    4. There's lots of confortable seating.
    5. Girls offer excellent VIP service.
    6. Clientele was nice and respectful.
    7. I did not feel or experience any type of racism.

    My problem is with CLUB LE GENTLEMAN's racist "rule" that forbids strippers to go talk or dance with Black men without the manager's consent, when these Black men spend their money to get in, spend their money on several drinks and tips, but can't get no strippers to come sit, talk or dance with them, just because they're Black and "look" like pimps... This is something I have never heard of anywhere. No other club I've been to had that rule.

    We often hear about the stripclubs' "Limit" of Black girls. We also often hear about the "No Hip Hop rule" which exists to control the amount of Black men in the clubs (Managers and DJs admit this). Those two rules are common, "normal" and "accepted", so it's pointless for me to complain about those when everybody's "used" to them, and I personally don't think they're as wrong as this "unique rule" only Le Gentleman has.

    I can live with the fact that they are racist, and will continue to be racist and not want Black men in their club. Hatred will always be around until the end of time, we just have to cope with it. But I would really be happy if Black people became aware of this "rule", and stopped going to that club (as it wishes) and put an end to being "used" like in the slavery and segregation era. And I'd be even happier if people of other ethnicities did see the injustice being made, and feel the need to denounce, protest, or stop encouraging that club.

    A Black man will not be considered a "pimp" at Le Gentleman only if he's in his 50s or older, if he's younger but looks like Tiger Woods or Barack (They have the sophisticated look), or as some of you mentionned, if he comes in with a White man or group. However, even though the club allows "certain" Black men to have access to the strippers, they still prevent other Black men to fully enjoy the service the club is suppose to offer once the cover charge and drinks are paid for, just because they are Black and "look" like pimps... Why would a Black man have to change his style of clothing before going out anywhere just to not be considered a "pimp"??? Why can't a Black man just be himself like any other ethnicity??? At the end of the day, a Black man is still a Black man no matter what age or look he has, so this "rule" is in fact offending and racist.

    I cannot convince or expect anyone to believe me, or anything they haven't witnessed first hand. And perhaps, the only people that could confirm what I said about the "Rule" is the strippers that work or have worked at Club Le Gentleman (as every girl is drilled the same way when they enter the club), the staff, and also the custumers that might have heard strippers mention that rule... So hopefully, other people will come out and attest about this "rule" right here on Merb.

    Maybe my sense of justice is stronger than other people's, so I'm sorry if some of you were offended when I wrote that "Anyone going to that club or working at that club is supporting racism". Of course you cannot be held responsible for, or encourage something that you didn't even know anything about in the first place. But shame on those who are not racist, that know about this "rule" and still go to that club. Respect, Justice, Equality, and Being True to One's Self and Values is far more important than the fun and money that that place provides.

    Please don't mistake my bluntness for arrogance, and my honesty for rudeness. I'm just expressing myself, and only mean good.

    And I also would like to ad that I am not directly accusing the manager of being racist. (We always tend to be mad at and blame the person that delivered the bad news!) I don't know if he's the one that came up with this rule, or if it was his boss' boss' boss' decision and he's just doing his job... But none the less, he is supporting racism.

    IT WOULD REALLY BE NICE AND APPRECIATED, NEXT TIME YOU GO TO CLUB LE GENTLEMAN OR TALK WITH STRIPPERS ANYWHERE, IF YOU GUYS ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS "RULE", AND POST BACK ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT.

    THANKS IN ADVANCE

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