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Should best offer prevail in escorts world?

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In many industries the best offer prevails !
In real estate you put your house/condo for sale at certain price and conditions you are receiving offers even sometimes above listing and the seller decides the one he will accept !
Its also true in auctions and many other places .
When you are booking a escort witch the purpose is to make money and same purpose for the agencies ,do you realize that she might not be on time or even sometimes cancel because retained by the previous client that is enjoying her at the fullest!
What is your view on this subject !Should best offer prevail ?
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The best offer should, in fact, always prevail.

However which offer is the best offer is not always as obvious as one might think. For an escort or booker, to cancel on a pre-booked 1 hour appointment in favor of a last minute 3 hour appointment might seem like a good idea at the time, because there's more money guaranteed upfront, but there are hidden costs to everything. If the client who gets canceled on comes to complain, that's a hit to the agency's or the lady's reputation. Take enough hits and it will have it's effect in the long run.

In summary, to answer your question BookerL, yes the best offer should prevail. But which offer is the best?

There are people who make a lot of money in the business world because they can see what others can't.
 

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This is complicated by the fact that escort sell a service to many clients. It's not a one-time deal like selling a house. Once you have agreed to see a client, you should not cancel unless you have a good reason. Same goes on the client's side. If you have a delay you should try to contact the other person to re-schedule. You can get away with it once in a while, but if you do it all the time, people can not rely on you.

That's one reason why I prefer indies with low volume.
 

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Well as a booker i can officialy say that i hate it when i need to push the appointment after just because the one before arrive late and get pissed because according to him even if he's arrived late (without advising us) he should have his complete session because is the one who's paying.... well no... people who arrive late without calling should understand that they are many rules for us to be able to serve you guys in a private and courteous way...
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Hi Laila
A question do you book only incalls or combo in/out?
The variables are different in both as there is no travelling time involve in incalls!
Outcalls when a SP is with a satisfied customer that wants to extend for 3 hours he has the money the SP ca confirm immediatly but she's is book for one hour elseware with 30 minutes travelling time and your drivers are busy but can offer a comparable SP to the waiting client what do you do ?
We are never sure that the new client will confirm the original SP even if she goes?
Has bookers we must attend to client satisfaction but also the girls ,there is no easy way out
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Somebody started a thread today raising this similar issue with an agency and looks like it was deleted.

The question is: in a situation in which a cheap-ass books a half hour or one hour appointment with a lady, and then someone later calls with a 4 hour booking request with the same lady at the same time, should the cheapass be cancelled on even though his booking was previously accepted and was first in time?

The answer is clearly yes. Because financial might always wins. Why someone would cry about losing out in a situation like that is beyond me. If you offer $295,000 for a mint new condo and then someone outbids you and pays $300,000, you lose the condo unless you ask for a right of first refusal. But usually a cheapass will NEVER seek a right of first refusal, because he has a ceiling on what he will spend, and that ceiling is easily outbid.
 

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Hi all
In many industries the best offer prevails !
In real estate you put your house/condo for sale at certain price and conditions you are receiving offers even sometimes above listing and the seller decides the one he will accept !
Its also true in auctions and many other places .

Hi Booker,

The analogy between Real estate and escorts does not really hold. Please allow me to explain. In real estate, you are selling a house, it makes sense to sell to the highest bidder. In the escort business, you are not buying the girl, you are just renting her services for a given period of time. The highest bidder on an escort might be a client who is on a business trip who visits the city once a year, on the other hand the second bidder might be a local client who sees one or a couple of escorts every week. An agency/indy, will sure get away if it/she cancels on the regular client to satisfy the highest bidder once or twice. Though, if this becomes the rule, regulars will get upset, stop using the services of the agency/escort and might even make this practice public on the Internet which might tarnish the reputation of the agency.

I know that many strippers will go for the highest bidder instead of going to regular cheapasses. Though, once a merbite said "It is better to be a cheapass than to be a succker"
 

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The question is: in a situation where a cheapass books a half hour or one hour appointment with a lady, and then someone later calls with a 4 hour booking request with the same lady at the same time, should the cheapass be cancelled on even though his booking was previously accepted and was first in time?

The answer is clearly yes. Because financial might always wins. Why someone would cry about losing out in a situation like that is beyond me. If you offer $295.000 for a mint new condo and then someone outbids you and pays $300,000, you lose the condo unless you ask for a right of first refusal. But usually a cheapass will NEVER seek a right of first refusal because he has a ceiling on what he will spend, and that ceiling is easily outbid.
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Hi EB
As you can see it is not a issue raised but a question that might help all bookers
Offering a better service by seeing what there potential clients are expecting.
There no easy calls because there is no consumer protection in escort industry!
The best we have is this review board with mods and rules to follow !
I do appreciate your comment as you are a well experienced jurist and it shows!
Client satisfaction should be the aim of any enterprise but what are parameters to follow ?
When you are a booker and have many girls outcalls so not only are you booking but dispatching as well !
In a context where you have 10 girls on the road 5 drivers you need to answer the phone text pm and emails it is sometime overwhelming not counting the complaints of clients and girls !
You need to make split second decision that involves client satisfaction girld safety money making for girls drivers and yourself .
It is not a easy task
So certainly the question should the best offer prevail is very relevant for all to be aware of !
I do like your condo offer example however another member comment was against !
Who right who's wrong ?
Is there really a right wrong ?
Can there be a template to help make the better decision?
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BookerL
 

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Actually wouldn't this be an interesting concept for independent escorts. In reality certain hours of the day are busier than others.
Maybe we should hold an auction for ourselves

Just put a list of possible meetings 11-12 / 1230-130/ 2-3 etc etc and every day you guys can bid
:lol:

I can take care of designing an escorts auction system à e-Bay, I just need someone with contacts in the sex industry to promote using this system. BookerL, let's get rich, a new exclusive club :p
 

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Is there really a right wrong ? Can there be a template to help make the better decision?

Back in the day if I prebooked a 4 hour date with a lady who was popular I got her before she booked out. I can recall for example Karina at Eleganza during the summer of 2007. She was very hard to book and the only way I saw her was to prebook her for 5 hours. Guaranteed someone else lost out on seeing her that day, but that is the way the cookie crumbles.

As time went on I became more of a to do list type of person, and then I just moved on if I could not book someone who was hard to book. In some rare cases with someone who is exceptional, I might book a longer date, but in recent years have not repeated as much.

I do recall one time being on the receiving end of a cancellation from a HDH lady. I had a prebooked date with her for 3 weeks in advance, and then she cancels me about 8 hours before. There is no doubt in my mind someone booked an overnight with her and my date got overbid. Shit happens. I basically had to scramble that day, like Tom Brady eluding a heavy late pass rush. But I ended up completing a pass. As long as there is a completed forward pass, you are still driving, and it is game on.
 

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I can take care of designing an escorts auction system à e-Bay, I just need someone with contacts in the sex industry to promote using this system. BookerL, let's get rich, a new exclusive club :p

Great idea ! The sp offer availability and bottom rate . Client bids on rate and time . Bidding stops 36 to 24h before encounter . But the client as to pay right away when he wins it thus meaning a new secure hobby PayPal for the hobby. Money is secure in a trust fund . The sp to get the money has to enter the transaction code given to the client from the secure hobby paypal . If there is bait and switch .... I let you merbite work the kink out of it ;)
 

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Ladies and gents,

The question is: in a situation in which a cheap-ass books a half hour or one hour appointment with a lady, and then someone later calls with a 4 hour booking request with the same lady at the same time, should the cheapass be cancelled on even though his booking was previously accepted and was first in time?

The answer is clearly yes.

Pure EB! :D

The high contrast in hours used in your sample makes it seem that way, but it's a very superficial inefficiently considered business assessment. The real question is how do the total hours values add up and what is the cost of the damage to an escort's or an agency's reputation by using a highest bidder model? She isn't selling condos she's trying to maximize units of business hours for her full availability over the long run. Maybe dumping the 1-hour caller, which are far more numerous can be made up for by going for the much fewer 4-hour deal...for a while. But the huge fault in this superficial logic is it's not just the 1-hour deals being dumped, it's the 2-hours and 3-hours deals also being dumped if offers based on the highest bidder of the day is the one business model.

As HornForEver pointed out the largest block of hours at one time is very tempting but undoubtedly much less frequent. The 1-hour and 2-hours deals are far more common according to years of reading reviews. Breaking trust with them would certainly be more costly if they are just being dumped for a higher bidder. Then there's the real risk that being dumped once would be enough to discourage many people from calling again, and twice would be absolute death in most cases regarding ever trying later. Once a lady or agency gets a reputation for dumping they will end up having long waits of empty time for the phone to ring from large block hours customers.

It's also badly uniformed to call shorter hours users cheap-asses. I personally know extremely well-heeled businessmen who can afford and do travel the world seeing escorts who will see better escorts 4 to 6 to 8 hours and over-nighters at times, but greatly prefer 1-hour introduction meetings to see how things go and 2-hours meetings most of the time to see more ladies. So the guys calling for an hour or two may be the gold mine some lady or agency just pissed off permanently.

Why wouldn't you just honour both bookings and negotiate a time in which she she's the cheapass and then goes to the 4 hours booking.

The perfect answer. Instead of categorizing and miscategorizing clients under some very risky label, try to find a way to negotiate and use the time available to maximize business hours usage and build a very profitable reputation of trust that will last instead of building a growing reputation that will have more and more clients putting you on the DO NOT CALL list.

I do recall one time being on the receiving end of a cancellation from a HDH lady. I had a prebooked date with her for 3 weeks in advance, and then she cancels me about 8 hours before. There is no doubt in my mind someone booked an overnight with her and my date got overbid.

Just the price of being on the "cheap-ass" side.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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I hate when I arrived at my RDV, I'm at the location and I'm getting told, sorry the previous client extended his time...
Goodbye, I'll never call again...

I agree with Laila 100%. If you have a booking, you have to respect it.
I understand that when it is a first time client, he might not show up... But if he does, it is very frustrating.

If the previous client advise for the extension in a reasonnable time, you may try to cancel the next client. Maybe the next client has to travel quite a lot to reach the incall.
For the outcall, maybe the next client rented a room for few hours only...

For an extension of time, I know many booker will flush the next client especially if he is a first time client. Too bad... Cause I'm a good client, and sometime, I'm a first client...
 

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I can take care of designing an escorts auction system à e-Bay, I just need someone with contacts in the sex industry to promote using this system. BookerL, let's get rich, a new exclusive club :p
Well HornyForeEver you are funny !:lol: Get rich in escorts !!Hummmm
Lets start a exclusive cheapass club !
Satisfaction guaranteed or money refunded just to be sure we get all the cheapo's HaHa
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For an extension of time, I know many booker will flush the next client especially if he is a first time client. Too bad... Cause I'm a good client, and sometime, I'm a first client...
Even if what you say is true the booker must make a split second decision and if you are a first timer in any businesses even hotels of prestige and they are over booked you will be flushed .
It is sad for the guy that goes through it but a SP cannot do miracles neither the bookers ,it does apply to bookers too Nobody is expected to do the impossible !
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Hi all
I do agree with HornyForEver the real estate analogies does really completely applies to the escort world because there is no repeats ,however the booking system in High end hotels is more similar since there is repeats .
For the example I will use Fairmont Hotels witch for the familiars the Queen E in Montreal ,Royal York in TO,Chateau Frontenac in Quebec City ,Hotel Van in Vancouver,The Palisser in Calgary and so forth ,I used to be a regular customer of that luxury chain of hotels .
Great service Entre Gold executive suits all well located in the heart of the cities.
Even when they where fully booked they where able to accommodate me ,There always a high end suit left somewhere !
In the escort you have to respect your regulars and your repeat hour deals this is obvious ,But what does happen when two of best regulars are competing for the same girl on the same day for the same hours ?
IT is not a easy call the booker needs to have a way to make a tie breaker what is that tie breaker ?If not the best deal?
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I agree with Laila 100%. If you have a booking, you have to respect it.
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In theory a booking should be respected , in practice its lot more complicated the SP comes out of a four marathon she is out of shape to meet another client she ask the booker for a needed rest ,from what you saying here the booker should force by pressure on her ,the quality of service would suffer greatly the client would not satisfied the reviews would be awful all of this to respect a prior pre booking ,a situation that foreseeable,What about the respect and total liberty of the SP ?
Black and white no grey zone ?
Some one must decide
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Somebody started a thread today raising this similar issue with an agency and looks like it was deleted.

The question is: in a situation in which a cheap-ass books a half hour or one hour appointment with a lady, and then someone later calls with a 4 hour booking request with the same lady at the same time, should the cheapass be cancelled on even though his booking was previously accepted and was first in time?

The answer is clearly yes. Because financial might always wins. Why someone would cry about losing out in a situation like that is beyond me. If you offer $295,000 for a mint new condo and then someone outbids you and pays $300,000, you lose the condo unless you ask for a right of first refusal. But usually a cheapass will NEVER seek a right of first refusal, because he has a ceiling on what he will spend, and that ceiling is easily outbid.

Lol EagerBeaver, not everybody is full of money... Does i qualify as a cheap ass if i can afford only 1 hours appointements? Even when i had a bit more money couple years ago, when i got that good lucrative summer job, i usually booked 2 girls a night, both for an hour.... as to me i prefered 2 different hours to a 2 hour bloc. Let me explain. I see escorts to have sex... Exept a very selected few wich i do enjoy the compagny, i am not there to chit chat and talk about myself or hear about her. I don't mind the usual 5-7 mins talk before action, but i am there to have sex... I know that some clients, especially older guys like you like to take a glass of whine, talk and relax... Not me. Maybe would i be millionaire, i wouldn't mind, but even would i score a 25$ the hour job, i would still book 1 hour, cause its more than enough to have sex. If i book 2 hours, i will mostly feel like i had ONE meeting... even if longer, but if i book 2 different hours, i feel like i had 2 meeting, wich is the case and much more fun to remember once done. When i finish with once, im still pumped, take a beer, and think about the other one coming in an hour or so... Thats cool. So lets just say that 4 hours meeting for me, even if rich, would be an absolute no go. I pay for sex, i don't pay for talking... you get what i mean?

So that being said, take me for exemple, i come from far, well not that far, but lets just say making the trip to MTL is really "hard to plan" I got to reserve hotel, i take the bus, even getting back home is a pain in the ass because im on the wrong side of the line...

It may not be as true that much in the latest years, thanks to the GG parties, cause now i don't book just on body pictures but have a definite look at the girl, so my "list" is much bigger and i have much girls in mind at the same time lol, but i used to be very selective in my early years with escorts, picking the right one, based on reviews, look, services etc. It did happen a few time i was cancel, normal, and replacement where offered, sometimes the replacement turned out great, sometimes it was not as good as i was hoping but "it was ok". But the truth is, when i book a specific escort and have her really in mind, its disapointing if she ain't the one showing at my door, and in some case the replacement can make me totally forget about my original plan, but other times not. I can understans cancellation for a bunch of various reasons... girl sick, period, she has to cancel, but would i get canceled just because of a client booker over me... that would suck really.

When i was booking i never, ever put a longer booking over a 1 hour booking... never. I would had hate if somebody would do that to me, so i didn't. I would always say she is free when she is... thats it. And as client, i always book first shift when possibe, usually i manage to get the first shift, i prefer that much much more, not only because its a better feeling to be first, and i avoid lots of potential problems(girls getting drunk, tired, not in the mood anymore) but also avoid clients who extend.

That was a problem i had when booking. Sometimes girls would put me directly in front of it and would not give me a choice... even if they had another booking. I had to delay the guy, and then delay the other one after. Usually clients would understand but i did got a couple of guys that where annoyed/pissed off.. And its never a good feeling. Most of the time it was 30 mins extensions... I am all for 90 mins meeting, and sometimes 60 feel too short for some, and 2 hours too long, but extension should only be allowed if the girl is free after. Problem, they call me, say the client extended, and the counter was still turning, what could i do? Argue with the girl on the phone? So i had to let it go, but HATED doing that.

I may not be the biggest client, but i can say that to ME, what sell me to an agency, is the reliability and the puntuality, wich is why i use mostly the agency i use now. Thats very important. I can understand if shit happen, it happen, but if the booker decide to dump a client for a longer call... thats not fair.

And by experience, even if i booked for only a month, i can say that MOST clients call for an hour, or 2 at most. 4 Hours booking where EXTREMELY rare, not even sure if i had one, best i had was 3 hours... very rarely.

On the flip side - if you are with an escort and the time runs over by a half hour - should YOU pay more? That rarely happens and then guys wonder why some girls are <clock watchers>

I think there is a way to not be a clock watcher and respect your time. Personally being an outcall client, the driver is usually arrived when the time runs out, and the girl is on her way out. I did had a couple of 5 mins over the time in my hobby life, but it never surpass that usually. I am actually a clock watcher myself... because i don't want to be told "cum quick, i got to shower in 5" so i often give a look to the clock, and i make SURE to remember the time it is when she arrive.

Some girls use there phone alarm to set the time, personally i find this brillant, this way when it ring, it mean 10 mins left... so they have enough time to shower and be ready. I think the duty of the escort is to check the time and be the one responsible for it, BUT there is way of how to do it, and not appear to be a clock watcher.
 

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I don't think you can or should negotiate when it comes to someone providing a service. Buying goods on the other hand is a different story.
 

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Most of you guys are posting from your own selfish/subjective perspectives, as did the guy who complained about XXXception whose thread was apparently either self-deleted or deleted by the Mods. I am posting from the perspective of the ladies and from the perspective of my Economics 101 professor in college, who was a legendary person in the field of economics (I got an A in his class, by the way, although economics was not my major). The average cheap-ass client will post to complain when his lowball offer is blown out by a better one. This is pure sour grapes. I have more or less immunized myself from this kind of disappointment with the development of a "to do list", and an attitude that shit happens, as I already posted. I am pretty sure that my own offers, and in the one case I mentioned a 2 hour HDH offer for $600, was blown out by a better offer. That may not happen very much, but it does happen and has happened, maybe more back in the height of the HDH era than now (2003-2006 or so). The bottom line is that the forces of supply and demand, as applied to a particular lady, will always prevail, and those who are either unwilling or unable to adjust as necessary will experience a disappointment. The deleted thread on XXXception was EXACTLY the situation I have discussed. I am not sure if it was that thread that prompted this one by BookerL (I suspect it did), but the topics are closely related.
 

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The average cheap-ass client will post to complain when his lowball offer is blown out by a better one. This is pure sour grapes.

It's not really a bid or an offer. The agency doesn't say, "All right, you get to see Toinette at 9 unless somebody offers us better terms before then." No, the agency says, "You will see Toinette at 9," and the client plans accordingly.

An agency that backs out of a deal is reneging. A client could do that too, of course. He could call up one agency and arrange to see a girl at a given time, then call up another and arrange to see a more popular girl whom he likes better. When his top choice arrived, he could call the first girl's agency and tell them not to bother sending her and sorry about the short notice. I expect there are clients who do this, since some of us aren't as honest and considerate as they might be. The same goes for agency owners, of course. Respect and responsibility aren't common items in this business. But when found they're worth holding on to, which is one reason I've been an Asservissante client for so long.
 
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