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    The Coming Bloodbath in Bagdad

    Anyone care to venture how the POTUS will spin things when Bagdad falls within the next week to ten days and the bloodbath of Christian & Shite bodies starts to appear?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...k-9763658.html

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    So Potus wasn't able to clean Georgie's mess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anon_vlad View Post
    So Potus wasn't able to clean Georgie's mess?
    Six years in and the libs are STILL BLAMING EVERYTHING ON BUSH. Pretty much goes with the total lack of responsibility shown by the rest of Obama's miscreants.

    So was Nixon cleaning up Kenedy's/Johnson's mess when he pulled out of Saigon? Inquiring minds want to know how you'll spin the "Killing Fields".

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    Saddam should have been left in power. He kept all the nutcase Islamists under control!

    The devil we knew was better than the unknown devils that were unleashed! That is devils with an s! The USA has a partisan history of getting rid of tyrants and replacing them with worse !!!!!!!!!

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    Agreed EB. But the POTUS inherited a more stable Mid-East than today.

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    W was told over and over to leave Iraq alone. But he had to listen to Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove and Wolfowitz. So yeah. After six years Iraq is W's mess and if you don't know so you are a good piece of GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercingentorix View Post
    So was Nixon cleaning up Kenedy's/Johnson's mess when he pulled out of Saigon?
    Yes, it was one of Nixon's many achievements.

    Nixon made some serious mistakes, but he wasn't stupid and/or senile like Ronnie and George W. The fact that he was a Republican and Kennedy and Johnson were Democrats doesn't prevent me from opining that he was a far greater president than either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    Saddam should have been left in power. He kept all the nutcase Islamists under control!

    The devil we knew was better than the unknown devils that were unleashed! That is devils with an s! The USA has a partisan history of getting rid of tyrants and replacing them with worse !!!!!!!!!
    Harry S. Truman used to say about military dictators he liked in Central and South America, he's a son of a bitch, but he is our's. That seems to be a pretty good policy, at least in comparison to the Democracies we keep trying to create. The problem is that we cannot create a meaningful Democracy in a country without a functioning economy that has economic and military security for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercingentorix View Post
    bloodbath of Shite bodies starts to appear?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...k-9763658.html
    One can argue that any shiite massacre in Iraq would be a response to Sunni massacres committed by alawite (offshot of shia) Assad of Syria with the help of shia militias, such as hezbola. No?

    A year ago, Assad gassed sunnis and killed more than 5000 people - a red line drawn (in the sand) by Obama.
    Liberals have destroyed both the US and Canada.

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    Obama inherited something he didn't like. I understand this. It was wholesale stupid to pull troops out Iraq prematurely.

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    Agree with EB, the US destablized the whole region. As much as the US wants to get out of this mess they can't.

    Agree with Patron, you cannot create democracy overnight. If the country is not ready for it.....it will fail.
    "Just When I Thought I Was Out.....They Pull Me Back In!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    Saddam should have been left in power. He kept all the nutcase Islamists under control!

    The devil we knew was better than the unknown devils that were unleashed! That is devils with an s! The USA has a partisan history of getting rid of tyrants and replacing them with worse !!!!!!!!!
    Agreed. Was Saddam a dictator? Yes. Did Iraq need that sort of strong leadership at the time? Yes. We heard for years that Saddam "killed his own people", which was true, he jailed and executed the people that now make up the ranks of Idiot-shitstains Inc. (IS).

    Another thing I find ridiculous is that at the same time our Government and that of the United States are going on and on and on about Idiot-Shitstains they, at the same time, support the ruling Dawa party whose very platform is to "create an Islamic state in Iraq."

    The prime directive, that's what we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDon View Post
    Agree with EB, the US destablized the whole region. As much as the US wants to get out of this mess they can't.

    Agree with Patron, you cannot create democracy overnight. If the country is not ready for it.....it will fail.
    Screw Democracy. Honestly. I don't know why people worship Democracy like some sort of religious deity. Democracy is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercingentorix View Post
    Agreed EB. But the POTUS inherited a more stable Mid-East than today.
    It was a false sense of stability based on the premise that the implanted government would be able to contain festering extremism. It was pretty clear from day one that they were never going to able to do this. The destruction of the Iraqi military under Bush led to a migration to ISIS that started immediately and built slowly over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    It was a false sense of stability based on the premise that the implanted government would be able to contain festering extremism. It was pretty clear from day one that they were never going to able to do this. The destruction of the Iraqi military under Bush led to a migration to ISIS that started immediately and built slowly over time.
    Agreed, what is going to be most fascinating is the Egypt, Israeli, Jordan, Saudi political alliance block that's likely to emerge.

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