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    Suggestion

    Hello in the last month I (Oliver too ) noticed soo many good review from people with less than 10 posts. I participate to another board (not related to this hobby) and there`s a rule that a user cannot start a new thread without having 20 posts.

    I think a rule like this here would help agains shill post... I think also a minimum period should be helpfull, like 1 month...

    What all of you think about it?

    I started this thread after this post:

    https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11962

    Also post like: (from new user in the probation period)

    `Yeah I agree with you`

    Should be deleted...

    Wilko
    Last edited by wilko26; 09-25-2005 at 04:43 PM.

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    Wilko,

    I like the idea. It would cut down on shill reviews and force the would be shill to contribute something for 20 posts, something most shills don't have the time or patience to do. Could help save the Mods a lot of time and effort pursuing the multi-handle shills.

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    I also agree completely that it's a very good idea. Many shills post once or twice then start a thread. Requiring them to make 20 posts would be more than most of them could handle.

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    Shill related posts

    Twenty post minimum is an interesting requirement for STARTING a thread
    but this may prohibit valuable information from surfacing.Perhaps refine the idea to a twenty post minimum before a REVIEW thread may be STARTED.

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    Allow me to be the pain in the but!

    Guys,

    I have been posting to this board since I belive May of this year so I'm a new kid in town arguing againt the establishement yet allow me:

    I knew of the board and read it regularly but did not actually manage to get into it until recently. I understand that in the case of MTL shilling is a particular problem you want to deal with and can relate to the reasons behind Wilko"s proposal but look at it from the QC side and from the new guys perspective.

    QC: There are, as it is, about 17 semi regular contributors to the QC section, what we need down here is more people comming out of the closet: Stop readng and start writting reviews.

    Because I'm sure there are more than 17 of us walking around QC in the hobby! if it gets to complicated to particpate the ones (like me) that may at some point consider it may go away, it will be a shame.

    Newbie: On the other hand, I been posting to this for 3 months, so I'm no authority, yet I have been in the hobby for more than the last 3 months and do have something to contribute (and have) to this board, yet it is already difficult for some to make the plunge, more restrictions my discourage us.

    Time for you to blast away........
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    Therefore: All progress depends on the unreasonable man!

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    Fully agree with a new rule....Mods have been so busy recently....and even so....

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    Separating out the shills

    Quote Originally Posted by Mod 5
    I do agree having a minimum "20 posts", will defineately slow down the progress of those who register with the sole intention of shilling. It will also allow members to guage the character of this new member, as well as give us many clues as to his/her intentions.

    I will bring up this topic for discussion with other Mods.

    M5
    Mod 5,

    When you bring this suggestion up with the other Mods, please add my name to those voting in favour of this excellent and overdue idea. If I now look back on my previous posts, I see how much time was wasted flushing out shills.

    Thanks, wilko, for this initiative.

    Kasp_ar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl Man
    You want to prevent shills from polluting your Board with new threads. Well, they will pollute ongoing threads if disallowed to start a new one. What do you gain?
    Pearl Man,

    Most of the shilling occurs with SPs nobody has ever heard of, or on whom there are no posts, threads, or reviews of any kind. Therefore, there are no existing threads to pollute. The shill has to create one. The "Wilko Initiative", as I will call it, thwarts those shills.

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    ...and in the last six months or so, the board has been taken advantage of more and more. Reliable posters will be easily indentified and jokers/jurkers/shillers discarded.
    Everyone is encouraged to participate, but at the same time, a certain category of posters should be encouraged to go somewhere else!.....they should start a site of their own!

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    I like the suggestion of minimizing shills but I do have one caveat: we need to find a way to encourage more "guests" to become members and post their thoughts. Membership is free after all.

    Today when I signed in, the home page stated: "Currently Active Users: 289 (67 members and 222 guests)." I think this ratio of non-members is not good and wish more guests would give the board their comments.

    It is my one-year anniversary of becoming a member and I remember reading for a few months before posting. I have seen dozens and dozens of SPs but usually don't give reviews since I see too many reviewers getting flamed if someone gives an "average or below" on someone's favorite SP. And if I give an excellent review I have been accused of being a shill (not on this board but another board). The experience certainly has not persuaded me to write reviews.

    However, I do feel guilty for not contributing reviews since I greatly appreciate members who do write reviews. I promised myself I would submit reviews after my next trip to Montreal.

    Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions how to encourage more guests to participate?

    I would especially like to hear guests give their comments why they don't post. Merci.

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    After considering other posts I wonder if the ability to create new threads could remain open in the lounge and 411 sections. Those who are just looking for some info or may have something important to share could still do so.

    Also, this may not be the thread to bring it up but... along with the escort411 section I was wondering if a SC411 section would be possible. Many posts in the SC section are from people looking for a particular dancer or info on what club to go to for certain things. These posts also creep into the escort 411 section. A separate 411 section would make it easier to seek such info.

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    How many agencies do we have in Montreal?
    How many new SPs?...Not counting those simply changing names....and agencies...
    It's a small world...it's easy to loose interest over a period of time!
    What we need...more SP to be reviewed!!!...and this will bring new members!!!
    New members with current SPs being reviewed .....a repeat....
    New members starting threads already existing on the board.....annoying!!
    New members are certainly welcome...but they cannot reinvent the reviews!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman
    After considering other posts I wonder if the ability to create new threads could remain open in the lounge and 411 sections. Those who are just looking for some info or may have something important to share could still do so.
    I agree with this lounge, 411 and buy&sell zone its not a problem... I think this major problem (shill) started to be big since this board had some advertising in journal de montreal...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearl Man
    And I see you all trying to protect your turf, concentrating on the Great Menace of the Shills. Aren't you on the Internet, boys, where the modus vivendi is to share, not to restrict access.
    With this suggestion I dont want that board come to a private club. But there's soo many BS from new member recently and I think it wont stop... Has a business man and if I would start that kind of business (escorts, massage etc...) I would consider to shill cause its proven that merb can bring lot of business. And I think merb gonna get more and more exposure in the future...

    What you also need to consider is that this board have a BIG review database I would say probably 90% of the agency-massage etc... are listed here... So a NEW user who post about a NEW agency its a bit..... I guess you all understand my point! I have no problem about a new member starting a thread like: Does anyone tried abc agency or this girl? But I always have a problem with a new agency from a new members... New member should use a little bit more the SEARCH option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Best Lover
    Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions how to encourage more guests to participate?
    It took me 1 year to register to this board... I guess its like calling on open line at radio some people will never call but listen at them and some listen and call to give their opinion. I think as long the membership stay free its not a problem.

    Wilko

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    Now guys

    Let me understand this, if I'm new and want to contribute my choices are limited to seeing the grils you (I mean we as I have already threads on the board, unless the new policy is retroactive ) have seen so I can add the 257th review of Marie Claude of Asservisante, Jessy of Celine or Samantha the INDY (please do not be insluted if your favorite one is not on the list).

    I have nothing against those girls, but if I'm new and see a gem or have a really bad expirience, I have to wait until the old guard sees her (again I'm including myself on the old guard remark) and posts on herbefore I can contribute. In the meantime my posts will look like this (includinn the 411 and lounge exceptions):


    Case 1:

    Hi, new to the board I saw........... (fill the blancs with your favorite SP) and can only confirm, infirm, deny etc, what ...................... (fill in your prefered established Merbite) said about her.

    New out


    Case 2:

    I'm new and looking for a transexual door handle lover with flappy hears and a mustache to do a duo with me and my body..........


    Case 3:


    How about those Mackain Pizza Pockets..........



    For 20 postings!

    Is this just making no sense only to me? Could be, I just had Mexican food for lunch today, maybe bad guacamole!
    Last edited by Canadian Joe 652; 09-25-2005 at 09:08 PM.
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    I too,think we need more rules on this board before people can start giving reviews.At least 20 substantial posts decided on by the mods,or 5 members with at least 75 posts or reviews to their credit.There are more and more useless comments, shills and insults on the massage part of Merb.than there are of reviews and good substantial comments.My opinion.Thanks.

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