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Do not think anyone doubted that there was a bust. The speculation about it being for under aged and/or trafficked could be true looking at the names and reputation.
 

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Well some were wondering why there was't any report in the news..
 

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Look behind you.
News media are not always aware of Police bust, they need to be made aware somehow, sometimes a leakage from your friendly "
Blue" or sometimes" Horseman ":lol:


The BIGBAZOOKA maybe ;) Had to put that in.
 

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That is one of the reason why i try to avoid incall as much as possible. You never know what could happen. When you are in your hotel room you have other reasons to be there. Of course its a lot more discreet and unlikely to get busted anyway in the first place, but then i think it would be much easier to explain why you are there and who is this person.

Then the asian SPs... there is 2 different type of asian SPs. The quebec one that are of asian descent but speak perfect french/english. Sometimes they also are half/asian too. Then you have the one from asia itself. This later type i always tried to avoid it because first it would feel extremely awkyard if she speak broken english only and i can't barely understand her (i even have trouble with perfect english sometimes vocally...) and then i always had that fear those girls may not really want to be there, or are not treat as they should be.

I think there is a major difference between an SP who does not really "like" her job but act it the right way and do it on her own will, and is happy with the money she make, then one wich is controlled and pretty much forced to do so. Of course in a perfect world i would like the SPs to all love there job and be perfectly happy, but im not naive... lol. Also who in the world like going to work? Very few peoples...

In any case thanks for the article link
 

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I admire your bilingualness, HM, especially your ability to write perfect English.

In other words, in spite of taking French in school, I have no idea what this article says.

And I would love to know what it says. Is it related to any of the agencies discussed in Monday's long thread?

RCMP breaks up prostitution ring with Montreal links

http://montrealgazette.com/news/loca...montreal-links
 

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Involve in the operation

The Partners

The investigation, launched in January 2014, was conducted in partnership with the Section des Enquêtes multidisciplinaires et coordination jeunesse/équipe de moralité Nord of the Service de police de la ville de Montréal External link, Opens in a new window, the Canada Border Services Agency External link, Opens in a new window, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Greater Toronto Area Detachment, Aéroports de Montréal External link, Opens in a new window Airport Security and the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada External link,



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I admire your bilingualness, HM, especially your ability to write perfect English.

Thanks, but i have receive critics for sometimes writing bad english :p. Also its a lot easier for french to learn english than the other around in general. The funniest thing is i can't speak spanish at all, but somewhat i recognize the general sense of an article sometimes just because of certain words and all. Some languages are just easier than others.
 

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Emancipation laws in Canada

Does Canada have the same rules as the United States that a lady has to be 18 or over to get a tattoo? No ink would seem to be a dead giveaway that she is underaged.

I have not been with a lady who is not inked for so long that I can barely remember the last time if happened.

No ink would seem to be an indicator that she is too young ... or too old (since the grandmas in the business came of age before tats were cool)

Isn't their any emancipation laws in the US ?

http://www.educaloi.qc.ca/en/capsules/emancipation-when-teenager-gets-legal-rights-adult

In Quebec, people become adults in the eyes of the law at age 18. People under 18 are called "minors."

When it comes to some decisions, minors are not allowed to act on their own. Instead, their tutors - usually their parents - must do these things for them.

In some situations, it can be difficult for teenagers to wait to turn 18. They need more independence, and they need it fast!

This article explains emancipation, a legal mechanism that, in certain situations, gives a teenager more or less the same rights as an adult.

Can minors exercise their rights in the same way as adults?

There are two things preventing people under 18 from exercising their rights in the same way as adults: parental authority and tutorship for minors. Emancipation limits or puts an end to parental authority and tutorship.

Parental authority refers to the rights and responsibilities of parents (or someone else who has parental authority) toward their children, from birth to adulthood: custody, supervision and education.

Tutorship for minors is the legal mechanism that protects people under the age of 18. For example, teenagers can't sue someone in court for damages or rent a commercial space on their own. Their tutors must be in agreement and must represent them in legal matters that can have a major impact on their financial situations or on their lives. The law calls these legal matters juridical acts.

A teenager's tutor can be one of these people:

his or her mother and father, who act as tutors together
his or her mother or father (when one parent is dead, incapacitated, or has had all her parental rights taken away by the court)
the person chosen by the parents in their wills or mandates in anticipation of incapacity (when both parents are dead or incapacitated)
the Director of Youth Protection, if this agency intervened in the life of the child


What is emancipation?

There are two types of emancipation:

Simple emancipation is a legal process that gives a teenager many important rights but not full adult status.

Full emancipation is a legal process that gives a teenager almost all the rights of an adult. (Please refer to the question Does an emancipated minor have all the same rights as an adult?)

A teenager who has been emancipated is called an emancipated minor.

At what age can a teenager become emancipated?

Usually, a teenager must be at least 16 years old to ask for emancipation. If the teen is under 16, he or she can apply to a court. The law doesn't specify a minimum age, but most teenagers who obtain emancipation are 15 years old or older.

What is the impact of "simple" emancipation?

With simple emancipation, the teenager is no longer under the authority of his or her parents or tutors. Therefore, the parents do not have the duties of custody, supervision and education. For example, once the duty of custody no longer exists, a teenager does not have to live with his or her tutor and will not be considered a runaway.

Under simple emancipation, a teenager can do some things alone that would otherwise need the tutor's involvement. For example, under simple emancipation, minors do not have to be represented by their tutors when exercising their civil rights. They can therefore sign contracts and defend their own rights.

However, the tutor of a teenager who has obtained simple emancipation still has the duty to advise and supervise acts that could seriously affect the teenager's financial situation. For example, the tutor will get involved if the teenager wants to refuse an inheritance or plans to accept a gift that comes along with a heavy burden. This could be, for example, the gift of a cottage that requires the owner to repair the balcony and clear the access routes every year.

A teenager who has obtained simple emancipation cannot take out a major loan, such as a mortgage, without permission from a court. The court makes its decision after consulting the tutor.

How does a teenager get simple emancipation?

There are two ways for a teenager to get simple emancipation:

by filing a declaration (statement) with the Public Curator
by asking a court
Filing a Declaration with the Public Curator

With the tutor's permission, a teenager who is at least 16 years old can file a declaration of emancipation with the Public Curator. The declaration must include the teenager's written request for emancipation and the tutor's consent.

The declaration must also include the agreement of the tutorship council. The tutorship council is made up of the teenager's relatives and family friends (or of just one person in some cases). Its role is to supervise the tutor and make sure this person is acting in the best interest of the teenager if the tutor is not the teenager's parent or if the teenager owns property worth $25,000 or more.

There is no tutorship council in other cases. As a result, it is quite rare for the parents of a 16-year-old to file together a declaration of emancipation with the Public Curator. The application for emancipation in this case is usually done through a court.

Also, a tutor who agrees with the legal acts the teenager wants to carry out usually does them for the teenager instead of going through emancipation. It is a simpler, less drastic way to achieve the same result.

Asking a Court

Teenagers can apply for simple emancipation on their own. The application must be made to the Quebec Superior Court. This happens, for instance, when the tutor does not agree to the emancipation. The judge will determine whether emancipation has been requested for serious reasons and whether it is in the teenager's best interest. A judge will listen to what the tutor has to say, as well as to the opinion of the tutorship council, if there is one.

Teenagers usually qualify for legal aid due to their limited income. This means they will be assigned a lawyer to help them through the process. To learn more, visit the website of the Commission des services juridiques (legal aid).

What are the "serious reasons" for emancipation?

There must be very good reasons to give such important rights to someone who hasn't reached adulthood. The law does not simply emancipate teenagers who are upset about their curfews or whose parents forbid them from seeing certain people.

Emancipation exists to protect a teenager's rights in very specific circumstances. Consider the following examples. Some are fictitious, others are based on real cases:

Myra is 17 years old. She works full-time and is completing her high school diploma on a part-time basis. She also takes very good care of her 10-year-old sister, Charlotte, because her mother is very ill. Myra's mother dies without naming a tutor for her daughters. Nobody they know is interested in taking on this role. Myra applies for emancipation so she can become Charlotte's tutor and continue to care for her even if Myra is still under 18.
15-year-old Stella is pregnant. Her parents want nothing to do with her. She is placed under the custody of the Director of Youth Protection. Stella wants to be emancipated so she can sign a lease, apply for welfare payments and be her child's tutor.
Huan is a mature and responsible 16-year-old. Since his parents died, his aunt Zheng has been looking after him and his finances. Huan will be starting CEGEP next year in a new city. At Huan's request, and with the approval of the tutorship council, Zheng files a declaration of emancipation for her nephew with the Public Curator. That way, when Huan moves to the new city, he will be able to sign a lease for an apartment and manage the funds that have been put aside for his education and basic needs. Zheng will continue to advise him as much as possible.
Federico is under the tutorship of the Director of Youth Protection. He will soon be turning 18. This means he will have to leave his group home and look after his own needs. He is asking for emancipation so he can sign a lease and other types of contracts. This will make it much easier for him to find an apartment and a job, etc.
A 17-year-old wants to get her driver's licence. The Société d'assurance-automobile du Québec (SAAQ) insisted on having her parents' signatures and refused the signature of a representative of her tutor, the Director of Youth Protection (DYP). It was impossible for her to get her parents' signatures since her mother was dead and her father's whereabouts were unknown. The judge emancipated her so she could get her driver's licence. (This example is based on a case from 2003. The SAAQ now accepts the signature of a DYP representative if it is accompanied by proof that the teenager is under the DYP's protection.)
These examples show that emancipation is a drastic solution for dealing with very particular situations, which often have to do with youth protection. It is generally provided to older teenagers close to adulthood who are very mature and can take on important responsibilities.

What is the impact of full emancipation?

With full emancipation (as with simple emancipation), the teenager is no longer under the authority of his or her parents or tutor. It gives the teenager full legal capacity, including certain rights and duties usually reserved for adults. Therefore, emancipated minors can sue their parents for support, make a will, sign a lease, buy, rent, sell, or take out a mortgage, just like adults.

However, not all of the teenager's rights are affected by emancipation. Please refer to the question Does an emancipated minor have all the same rights as an adult?

How does a teenager get full emancipation?

A teenager can get full emancipation in two ways:

through marriage
by asking a court
Through Marriage

A teenager who gets married is automatically fully emancipated. This doesn't mean that a teenager can run off and get married just to have the same freedoms as an adult. By law, a teenager must have the consent of both parents to marry. Also, the minimum age is 16.

Asking a Court

Teenagers can also apply for full emancipation on their own. The application must be submitted to the Quebec Superior Court. This happens, for example, when the tutor does not agree to the emancipation. The judge will determine whether emancipation has been requested for serious reasons and whether it is in the teenager's best interest. The judge will listen to what the tutor has to say, as well as to the opinion of the tutorship council, if there is one.

Teenagers usually qualify for legal aid due to their limited income. This means they will be assigned a lawyer to help them through the process.

Does an emancipated minor have all the same rights as an adult?

No. An emancipated minor only has certain rights, including those found in the Civil Code of Quebec, such as signing contracts, living away from his or her parents, making a will or suing someone. An emancipated minor can also obtain a driver's licence without his or her parents' permission. A fully emancipated minor is entitled to welfare payments, etc.

Emancipation has no effect on the teenager's rights under other laws. For example, an emancipated minor does not have the right to vote, buy cigarettes, go to bars or rent movies rated 18 and up. Also, an emancipated minor will not be tried as an adult if charged with a crime.


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Do not think anyone doubted that there was a bust. The speculation about it being for under aged and/or trafficked could be true looking at the names and reputation.

No trafficking charges are laid, and there seems to be 1 obscure case of a minor. This has to do with smuggling, not trafficking. But of course, the RCMP PR people are pushing things as usual:

"Selon la GRC, les victimes arrivaient au Canada illégalement ou avec des visas d'étude frauduleusement obtenus. «Elles étaient d'abord exploitées quelques semaines dans un lieu précis, avant d'être relocalisées ailleurs au pays pour qu'elles continuent à se prostituer, a expliqué le porte-parole Érique Gasse. Elles étaient gardées dans des conditions indicibles.» "

If this was true, it would be a clear trafficking case.
 

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MAE has posted today. Though I gotta say I think I'll be avoiding that place..have been for a while already.
Mtltopgirls seemed to be mostly Quebecois girls with the odd asian here and there. I've only visited with Allison (now with MTLGFE good job) and Annie (hope she turns up some place). Never noticed anyone looking underage.
Speaking of Mtltopgirls, they haven't posted since last Friday
 

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how do you know the were keeping the number? Whats is the possible consequences for client?
 
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