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    U.S. Tours Boston or NYC???

    Hi All

    I am wondering if anyone knows any SP's that travel to US for a tour?

    Thanks!!!!

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    I was just scanning some TER ads for New York City and I think I saw one, among the many local ads. Go the www.theeroticreview.com Discussion Boards, Ad Boards, and then to New York City and Boston to scan through. Most Canadian providers adjust to US rates when touring, and they screen (unless they are crazy), so there are few advantages to booking a Canadian touring girl instead of a local with similar reviews, at least in my opinion. For lower rates, you usually have to travel to Canada.

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    Another option is to go to the Preferred 411 website (generally just called P411) and pull up the Montreal section. The page will show a little profile of the Montreal providers who are members, and if a lady has an upcoming tour, if will be listed. I see that Monica will be touring NY soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportsman1967 View Post
    Hi All

    I am wondering if anyone knows any SP's that travel to US for a tour?

    Thanks!!!!
    First post? You know, there are already ladies in the US doing this.

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    French GFE VIP has been quite active lately in touring their girls again to the U.S. Around 10 days from now they will have three girls in NYC. They recently had a very pretty brunette show up but I didn't partake though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Numerati View Post
    French GFE VIP has been quite active lately in touring their girls again to the U.S. Around 10 days from now they will have three girls in NYC. They recently had a very pretty brunette show up but I didn't partake though.
    I know I am a nerd, but I would love to know their procedure for getting the cash back to Canada. US laws are horrific in terms of civil forfeiture. If law enforcement has reasonable belief that a crime has occurred, they are allowed to seize cash and the defendant has to sue to get it back. A lot of times things end there, particularly for foreigners. The accused is never prosecuted, but he or she definitely never sues to recover the cash, since the burden of proof shifts to the person trying to recover the cash. Plenty of police departments in Texas largely fund their budgets from cash seized from Mexican or Mexican-American folks stopped and searched on the highway. Some of this activity has been reduced, primarily as a result of complaints from honest cops who noticed that these guys are never prosecuted - it would stop the department's cash gravy train!

    It is my understanding from reading on the subject that one of the reasons the US sees fewer tours from foreign providers is that seizures have in fact occurred, both from physical searches and from actual bank accounts. There used to be a lot of US tours by Canadian providers years ago (of course the exchange rate was even better for them back then). It would suck for a girl to do 15 guys on a tour at $400 an hour and have her entire bounty of $6,000 taken from her. It of course does not happen often, but it gets publicized when it does. Maybe the reason there are more US tours from agencies instead of independents is that the agency is able to provide insurance. The provider would get her cut even if the rare seizure happens. I suspect the provider would go on a blacklist for re-entry though, since she would be suspected of not being quite truthful with customs regarding the reason for her entry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    I know I am a nerd, but I would love to know their procedure for getting the cash back to Canada.
    You and me both. I really want to tour both NYC and Boston this year, I so love working in the US, it's a gold mine for mid-thirties providers like me compared to Montreal. But the logistics are tricky. Vegas is easy as I can always use gambling as a cover, and I leave money in the US in an account there so I don't bring a lot of cash back with me anyway. But if I take a shopping trip to NYC for example, how do I explain coming home with cash? I could just leave it in a US bank, but if they are going to look at bank records that doesn't help. The one thing I definitely do not need is to have an issue crossing the border!

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    Boy, I don't know....This is a great question. A lot of them do it so there must be a way. I remember a US provider complaining that she wanted to dave money but could not because of all the money she made escorting and yet, she had no job. I told her to get a massage therapist certificate. I think she actually went out and did this. But how would someone from outside the US do something like this? They would have to have some sort of work permit. Could a Vegas girl say she won it at the casinos? I know over a certain amont(I think it is 600$) they have to write you a W2 or something like this. Could she open a US bank account? I don't think it is illegal to carry your own money around. You only have to declare over 10,000$ and even then it is not illegal, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Could a Vegas girl say she won it at the casinos? I know over a certain amont(I think it is 600$) they have to write you a W2 or something like this. Could she open a US bank account? I don't think it is illegal to carry your own money around. You only have to declare over 10,000$ and even then it is not illegal, correct?
    For sure you could say you won it. I think the threshold on a single win/jackpot is 1200 before you get a tax receipt. You can win 1000 ten times and never attract the attention of Uncle Sam.
    I have a US account but I also have a US address in Vegas. Even then, there are special tax forms and such you have to fill out as a non-resident. I don't know the rules on opening a US account without a US address?

    While there is nothing illegal about carrying your money around, the problem is avoiding suspicion at the border. It's not uncommon now for officials to ask how much money you are carrying. If the amount seems unusually high to them, or if you are declaring more returning home than you had entering the country they will likely know what you have been up to. Especially if you are a hot girl travelling alone with a suitcase full of lingerie. As per Patron's post above, they can seize your money based on the reasonable belief that a crime occurred. Plus, you know every time you try to cross the border after that you will be detained. An even worse case scenario would be if they managed to find some evidence of your activities on a cell phone or computer and you were actually arrested. Lots to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiannas View Post
    You and me both. I really want to tour both NYC and Boston this year, I so love working in the US, it's a gold mine for mid-thirties providers like me compared to Montreal. But the logistics are tricky. Vegas is easy as I can always use gambling as a cover, and I leave money in the US in an account there so I don't bring a lot of cash back with me anyway. But if I take a shopping trip to NYC for example, how do I explain coming home with cash? I could just leave it in a US bank, but if they are going to look at bank records that doesn't help. The one thing I definitely do not need is to have an issue crossing the border!
    I've thought about this often myself. I've met many women from other countries, but I've never asked how they do it, as curious as I am. It just seems like too personal a question. Tianna, I'm going to PM you a couple of leads and you can try to follow up if you want...

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    The wiki on civil forfeiture is actually pretty good

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil..._United_States

    It effects plenty of hobby-related activities in the U.S.. Guys get their cars taken as a result of picking up a streetwalker, escorts get their bank accounts taken, and agencies certainly get their assets seized. The biggest case in the last decade for most of us in the States was the action against the beloved Miami Companions agency. None of the owners got much time, the two ladies we all spoke to so often on the phone got literally 1-3 days in jail. The guy (who was the husband of one of those ladies) got a year. But the government got to keep the boatload of cash it seized. Usually that is how plea bargains work. The government will let the defendants plea it way down if the government gets to keep the cash.

    One thing that has driven the government nuts in border crossings in the last few years is the proliferation of gift and stored-value cards. The government was able to pressure the issuers of stored-value cards into coding them so they "cannot be used internationally". I presume that means one purchased in the U.S. cannot be used in Canada, but I have never tried it. I am also not sure if high-dollar gift cards such as Amazon are limited to the country of purchase. I would guess that would be hard to do because of the internet, but I do not know.

    It does not change the law of course, since the gift and stored-value cards are seizable property. But what the government has written some papers on is the practical difficulties of enforcement. It is easy at the airport or the crossing station to find thousands of dollars in cash, all in $20s, and start questioning people. Not as easy to determine the value of a gift card in a handbag or wallet that was recently purchased with that big stack of $20 bills. It can be done, of course, and lying about the value of the cards is a crime if asked. But cards would seem logically to generate fewer questions than thousands of dollars in cash.

    Wish Eager Beaver were still around to be our Better Call Saul.

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    I had bits and pieces through out the years when I inquired behind the scenes but I always wondered what really went down with My Secret Club. They were very active in touring their girls to the US particularly Cali and NYC. Very similar to MGF. Then suddenly one day out of the blue everything was shut down and disappeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    I am also not sure if high-dollar gift cards such as Amazon are limited to the country of purchase. I would guess that would be hard to do because of the internet, but I do not know.
    No, Amazon.com gift cards can be used to send items to Canada. I actually just received one and had no problem shipping an item here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiannas View Post
    No, Amazon.com gift cards can be used to send items to Canada. I actually just received one and had no problem shipping an item here.
    Makes for kind of a funny visual. Guys think the traveling lady is resting and relaxing during the hour or two between customers, when in fact she is running around like a madwoman, buying gift cards with cash at the nearby store, and using her wifi laptop to do all of her shopping while making sure the delivery dates do not overlap with her out-of-town days. Plus remembering to buy some towels at the store since the hotel will notice if she keeps requesting them. She is probably happy when the customer arrives so she can relax and just fuck.

    I remember reading a somewhat scholarly article on legalizing and regulating sex work, but the person who wrote it made a somewhat snooty comment that hookers make a lot of money but never seem to be rich. I cannot think of any other line of work in which there is more incentive to spend the cash quickly, especially with respect to the many sex workers in the U.S. who tour almost constantly. Few johns work a job in which he has to transport large amounts of cash with the constant worry of it being stolen or seized.

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    Professional gamblers come to mind. They carry a shitload of ca$$$$$h when they "work." And many of them are johns themselves. LOL.

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