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Cuba et les EU viennent de reprendre leurs relations diplomatiques avec la réouverture de l'ambassade cubaine à Washington. Est-ce que cela pourrait avoir une influence sur le hobby des européens et des canadiens au pays des Castros? Destination à bon marché au niveau du tourisme sexuel et du tourisme tout court. Est-ce que cela pourrait changer maintenant que les américains vont débarquer avec leur ''gros '' dollar?
 

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Today the US Embassy has been reopened in Habana. 3 millions tourists every year, 38% are canadians, 3% americans. This is obviously going to change. So is the hobby scene in that country don't you think?
 

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Sadly, the wealthy Cubans who escaped Cuba are largely responsible for inflicting the most punishing and cruel (and unnecessary) "sanctions" upon the regular Cuban people who had nothing to do with Fidel Castro's rise to power. These selfish hypocrites did everything possible to enrich themselves at the expense of the regular women, children and men in Cuba! I hope those "forgotten" Cubans will soon see their living, social, economic and education situations and opportunities improve dramatically so they can feel like true human beings that they are. Donald Trump should export all those wealthy Cuban expats (now American Citizens) back to Cuba without any money or anything but a pair of prison uniform and flip-flops made in China! Otherwise, V. Putin of Russia will have the Russian military go back to Cuba and set up the biggest nuclear base aimed directly at Miami, Florida! What, you think the U.S. is able to stop Putin from doing so without causing mutually-assured nuclear destruction of the two countries and the rest of Earth!
 

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I cannot think of a more liberal country than Dominican Republic in terms of prostitution but as we are talking about Cuba, yes prostitution is at the present time hypocriticaly kept under the cover but this also could change with the overall changes ocurring at the present time. Prostitution in Cuba is mainly repressed to give the government an image matching its official values. But the reality is that it is widely spread. Even in very touristicaly controlled and protected Varadero, it is possible to find girls (or better said ''jineteras'') if you know were to look and be discreet.
Cuba is a major sex destination for canadians and should remain that way but americans will start coming in and things could slowly change.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=jine...qpAPSxjIM:&usg=__cSqa-5iW9i4zAXDNzfjsMiZ_4wE=
 

cloudsurf

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BadChap what type of hallucinogens are you on ?
Everything you wrote is pure rubbish .....You can`t be serious....what you wrote was a joke right?
 

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Sadly, the wealthy Cubans who escaped Cuba are largely responsible for inflicting the most punishing and cruel (and unnecessary) "sanctions" upon the regular Cuban people who had nothing to do with Fidel Castro's rise to power. These selfish hypocrites did everything possible to enrich themselves at the expense of the regular women, children and men in Cuba! I hope those "forgotten" Cubans will soon see their living, social, economic and education situations and opportunities improve dramatically so they can feel like true human beings that they are. Donald Trump should export all those wealthy Cuban expats (now American Citizens) back to Cuba without any money or anything but a pair of prison uniform and flip-flops made in China! Otherwise, V. Putin of Russia will have the Russian military go back to Cuba and set up the biggest nuclear base aimed directly at Miami, Florida! What, you think the U.S. is able to stop Putin from doing so without causing mutually-assured nuclear destruction of the two countries and the rest of Earth!

This is absolutely B.S. Cuba has been a HUGE violator of Human Rights and will remain a HUGE violator of Human Rights in its treatment of its dissidents and its people in general.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/cuba

Granted the Cuban government is not as bad as the IslamoNazis of Iran, but the Castros do not practice Democracy.

But there you have it, the current Obama Admin never met a dictator they do not ADORE.
 

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And can you believe Castro says the USA owes Cuba money for " damages "

Best Regards

Smuler
 

BadChap

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BadChap what type of hallucinogens are you on ?
You can`t be serious....what you wrote was a joke right?

CS -- I was venting and had a bit too much to drink. :lol:;) I hope one day to visit Cuba and spoke some cigars and chill on the beach :thumb: Damn! I have to leave Montreal today; back to reality:D
 

cloudsurf

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BC if you ever want tips on Cuba then check with me. I`ve been there 7 times in the last 15 years both for business and pleasure....even met Fidel at an embassy party.
 

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Hello all,

Sadly, the wealthy Cubans who escaped Cuba are largely responsible for inflicting the most punishing and cruel (and unnecessary) "sanctions" upon the regular Cuban people who had nothing to do with Fidel Castro's rise to power. These selfish hypocrites did everything possible to enrich themselves at the expense of the regular women, children and men in Cuba!

It has been one of the worst American policies for a long time. The situation with Cuba may have had some sense a long time ago, but normalization has been 24 years overdue at a minimum. Cuban Americans in Florida have been a political poison about this for a very long time and the Republican Party has used them for every advantage. Fortunately younger generations of Cubans don't have the bitterness of their parents and grandparents and are shifting more toward the American political Left.

Regarding the hobbying side, ummmmmmmm if even a small percentage of the ladies looked like Havana Ginger...WHEEEEW!!! Expect Americans to go there in droves, though it probably means prices will rise in step with the big increase in "tourism" ;) about to hit that island. Get it while it's still cheap boys.

Cheers,

Merlot
 
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Lily from Montreal

Cuban men are gorgeous but the cuban ladies are not as nice...Ok I've been only 4 times to Cuba but I was a bit diasapointed by the ladies,most have no posterior,flat chest I like,flat bum?
Not so nice,a bit like a lot of french canadian,I am an exception in that regard :smile:,my theory is too much mix with indian ladies in the past...I guess I will have to go to Brazil to see nice curves?
 

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Hello all,



It has been one of the worst American policies for a long time. The situation with Cuba may have had some sense a long time ago, but normalization has been 24 years overdue at a minimum. Cuban Americans in Florida have been a political poison about this for a very long time and the Republican Party has used them for every advantage. Fortunately younger generations of Cubans don't have the bitterness of their parents and grandparents and are shifting more toward the American political Left.

Regarding the hobbying side, ummmmmmmm if even a small percentage of the ladies looked like Havana Ginger...WHEEEEW!!! Expect Americans to go there in droves, though it probably means prices will rise in step with the big increase in "tourism" ;) about to hit that island. Get it while it's still cheap boys.

Cheers,

Merlot

Absolutely false and nonsense. You're a prime example of a soulless liberal who tolerates and rewards torture, poverty and misery done by Totalitarian regimes like Cuba. The Cubans who live in Miami know of the treatment by the Cuban government because many have experienced this or know people who have.

The younger generation have been indoctrinated that the poverty is the norm, the state is their religion and the government is the provider of all things.
 

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Please go back to the original subject of this thread, before I close it.
 

ledoux

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Yes mod, I was not planning on starting a war. But obviuosly it is a hot subject. All I have to say is forget the Castros and the Obamas of this world. Cuban girls have a lot to offer at a very good bargain. It is still possible to get direct flight and all inclusive hotels in places like Playa del este , Habana, Varadero and Santiago de Cuba from Québec (not Santiago) , Montréal and Toronto at a very low price, especially during the upcoming low season. Then it's up to you to do your best.
American members of this board should understand that we, canadians, have always had a different vision and attitude towards the cuban revolution. As for anythingelse in life, nothing is black nor white. So today we are very happy to see that that non sense american embargo towards Cuba is coming to an end. No matter what your political orientation is, I invite you to visit the island (now that your are allowed to do so) , enjoy and come back to us with a clear understanding of the cuban reality, not the one dictated by the Miami based ''old Habana'' nostalgics and fanatics . Speaking spanish will help...
And please mod, don't close this thread...it will be like closing the embassies again!
 

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Yes mod, I was not planning on starting a war. But obviuosly it is a hot subject. All I have to say is forget the Castros and the Obamas of this world. Cuban girls have a lot to offer at a very good bargain. It is still possible to get direct flight and all inclusive hotels in places like Playa del este , Habana, Varadero and Santiago de Cuba from Québec (not Santiago) , Montréal and Toronto at a very low price, especially during the upcoming low season. Then it's up to you to do your best.
American members of this board should understand that we, canadians, have always had a different vision and attitude towards the cuban revolution. As for anythingelse in life, nothing is black nor white. So today we are very happy to see that that non sense american embargo towards Cuba is coming to an end. No matter what your political orientation is, I invite you to visit the island (now that your are allowed to do so) , enjoy and come back to us with a clear understanding of the cuban reality, not the one dictated by the Miami based ''old Habana'' nostalgics and fanatics . Speaking spanish will help...
And please mod, don't close this thread...it will be like closing the embassies again!

If you do not want the thread closed, then why are you going off subject AGAIN? I disagree with everything you said. The embargo was not nonsense, and reopening the Embassy is nonsense.
 

ledoux

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If you do not want the thread closed, then why are you going off subject AGAIN? I disagree with everything you said. The embargo was not nonsense, and reopening the Embassy is nonsense.

I don't get you. So everything is non sense. Have you ever been in Cuba? All you you know about Cuba is probably american propaganda, being good or bad. I have been in Cuba 5 times. 1991-2006-2009-2014-2015. I am just asking you to give it a try...I have no choice to talk politics, but my main interest here is cuban girls....And if you want to put Hillary in Prison, that's your problem. Personnaly, I would fuck that milf first!
 

ledoux

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The point I was making in my posts is that I do not see the increased in U.S. visitors to Cuba having any effect on the sex worker market. ... It would be a hell of a jump, given that the government there is not really hobby-friendly at the moment, and the populace is predominantly practicing Catholics - not exactly a religion that supports sex work.
I do agree with you, US visitors to Cuba won't have any significant effect on the sex market in Cuba for awhile, I just started this thread to be in tune with recent political activity.
But let me tell you that at this point cubans are no more castro dedicated than francois dedicated. Religion has no more influence on sex market than official governement ruling. Cubans girls don't give a shit about none of them! But they do scare the police. That's a fact. So they will will ask you to follow them from a fair distance when directing you to the place of ''action''. But once you get there, fuck Castro, fuck Francisco!
 

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Everywhere in the world since the early days of "civilization" as we know it, men and women have and will continue to resort to sex work (until the world comes to an end) if there is demand and they can earn money -- they will "share" the money with a pimp (usually, but not always someone who works for the local organized "mob"), bribe the local police and sometimes a fixer (like someone at a hotel/motel or the streets). It happens in the States as well, especially in high places like Washington D.C.'s Power Establishment and Hollywood (on the Silver Screen -- they call it art protected by the 1st Amendment)!

But for the money, I'd go to Cuba for a real cultural experience plus to check out the local ladies (through the hotel "connections") and stay at a "high end hotel. The problem for me would be that it would cost way more money for me to travel to Cuba and deal with all of the paperwork unless I go there with a tour company (which will charge an exorbitant amount of money). I prefer educated, sophisticated and often well traveled ladies.

The US is way too expensive and risky (look at what happened to former NY governor E. Spitzer). And the client has no leverage; the ladies has more leverage and charge a ton of money.

After finding "Jesus" in Montreal, Canada, and the trip to Montreal is delightful and easier for me to make in so many way, I'd continue to back to Montreal again and again and again :nod::D:lol:
 

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Getting back to the original post.
Right now, most single and even some married, Cuban chicas will spend a few hours or even the night with a tourist for less than 100 bucks.
They do it because a 100 dollars is a lot of money for them , equivalent to 3 months salary for a Doctor.
Some also do it because they believe that a tourist who falls for them, is a ticket out of the country.

With Americans coming on the scene, and bringing their money, things will change....not in a few weeks or months , but over time. The US could triple the tourist trade.....bringing new commerce and wealth.....and yes ....freedom
 
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