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    Harper dissolves Parliament: Federal election (Oct. 19) campaign is underway

    The Canadian federal election campaign is underway as of this past weekend. Canadians are complaining about the lengthy election season (2.5 months) that resulted from Harper dissolving Parliament earlier than required. Count your blessings, Canadians. There are 15 months to go until the next U.S. presidential/congressional election (Nov. 2016) and the campaign in the U.S. has already been going on for months. Relatively short election campaigns are a blessing of the parliamentary system.

    All three main parties have shot at forming government as Harper kicks off election campaign

    Jordan Press, The Canadian Press | August 2, 2015 5:47 PM ET

    OTTAWA — Canada faces a “critical decision” about its best way forward, Stephen Harper said Sunday as he triggered what promises to be one of the longest, most expensive and most bitterly fought election battles in the country’s political history.
    As tourists swarmed Parliament Hill and blinding summer sunshine bathed Rideau Hall, Harper emerged to confirm that Gov. Gen. David Johnston had indeed dissolved Parliament, launching the longest campaign in Canada since 1872.
    He wasted no time trying to frame the so-called ballot-box question.
    “Canadians will make a critical decision about the direction of our country, a decision with real consequences, a decision about who has the proven experience today to keep our economy strong and our country safe,” Harper said.
    “I will be asking Canadians for their support to continue to deliver sound economic management and to take the difficult decisions necessary to protect our country’s security.”
    A national election “is not a popularity contest,” he added — presumably a reference to Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, who now has just 11 weeks to silence those critics who have long accused him of being more sizzle than steak.
    Heading into the campaign, the Conservatives find themselves lagging behind Tom Mulcair and the NDP in the polls, with the Liberals running third. But make no mistake: for the first time since anyone can remember, all three main parties have a legitimate shot at forming a government after Oct. 19.
    Across the Ottawa River in Gatineau, Que., with the emblematic Peace Tower looming in the distance, Mulcair called for change on Parliament Hill after nearly a decade of Conservative rule.
    “Wages are falling, incomes are stagnant and household debt is skyrocketing … middle class families are working harder than ever but can’t get ahead,” Mulcair said.
    “The economy has shrunk in each of the last five months and many are claiming that Canada is already in another recession … clearly, Mr. Harper, your plan isn’t working.”
    In Vancouver, Trudeau accused the Conservatives of planning to grow the economy by making “wealthy people wealthier.” The election, he said, is about which party can give middle class Canadians a real and fair chance to succeed.
    “You want change that works for you,” Trudeau said.
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    All I hope it that if you do vote ( and you should ) it should not be a revenge vote. Know what the party you are voting for is planning to do for YOU and the economy, will there be increased taxes that will lose jobs, will there be increased spending which will raise taxes, will they put policies in place which will deter business. Make sure you completely understand your parties platform and even the other parties platforms. It is very easy to pick apart any political party and say this and this should be done but will the party you chose correct these things you do not like? Will they add things you are against?
    For myself I despise every political party as they are not for the people, they have gold plated pay and pensions so the economy means nothing to them. I chose a party that will benefit me the most and harm Canada the least.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Tee Nutz View Post
    For myself I despise every political party as they are not for the people, they have gold plated pay and pensions so the economy means nothing to them. I chose a party that will benefit me the most and harm Canada the least.
    You are a wise man Sol. I agree completely.

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    kick out harper. 9-10 years is enuff. the guy is a lier & control freak. most if not all politisians are liers but i find harper has a non compromising atitude.

    i hope for a minority goverment alltho i know a minority goverment will mean another election b4 the mandatory election date since allmost all governing minority partys rule like they have a majority & eventualy are voted down in non confidence vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacep View Post
    kick out harper. 9-10 years is enuff. the guy is a lier & control freak. most if not all politisians are liers but i find harper has a non compromising atitude.

    i hope for a minority goverment alltho i know a minority goverment will mean another election b4 the mandatory election date since allmost all governing minority partys rule like they have a majority & eventualy are voted down in non confidence vote.
    Be very afraid if the NDP win, you think things are bad now and taxes are high you have not seen anything.
    If things are bad in Quebec economically it is not the federal governments fault, the people you elected provincial over the last 50 years did all this.
    Again, revenge votes do not work, if you want Harper out make sure your choice will improve your lifestyle.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    I think it amusing that people vote. Democracy is stupid. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkone View Post
    I think it amusing that people vote. Democracy is stupid. That is all.
    And your alternative is.......?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blkone View Post
    I think it amusing that people vote. Democracy is stupid. That is all.
    I do not agree with your wording but there is no democracy in Canada, in a democracy the politicians would work for us and that does not happen. With more than 2 choices the majority will most likely lose.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Tee Nutz View Post
    I do not agree with your wording but there is no democracy in Canada, in a democracy the politicians would work for us and that does not happen. With more than 2 choices the majority will most likely lose.
    Not sure I understand your logic here Sol......If most of the population do not vote for whoever then THEY are the NEW majority regardless of how fragmented it may be. I guess you mean the status quo majority ie the Conservatives/Reform would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault View Post
    The Canadian federal election campaign is underway as of this past weekend. Canadians are complaining about the lengthy election season (2.5 months) that resulted from Harper dissolving Parliament earlier than required. Count your blessings, Canadians. There are 15 months to go until the next U.S. presidential/congressional election (Nov. 2016) and the campaign in the U.S. has already been going on for months. Relatively short election campaigns are a blessing of the parliamentary system.
    Well put. The Presidential elections campaign in the US is nearly 2 years long. That's totally ridiculous if you ask me. The GOP debate tomorrow night will be a joke. Way too many candidates on the GOP side and half of them are a joke and will never be elected. What will it be tomorrow night? Ten candidates with about 10 minute each at the podium? I also believe that there are way too many elections in that country. For governor, congress, senate, president, etc. Do they really need the primaries? Couldn't the whole thing be resolved in one weekend like they do in Canada when chosing the leader of a political party? No wonder more than half of the Americans stay home when it's time to vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
    Not sure I understand your logic here Sol......If most of the population do not vote for whoever then THEY are the NEW majority regardless of how fragmented it may be. I guess you mean the status quo majority ie the Conservatives/Reform would lose.
    IMO a democracy would be the majority would win. When a party with 36% of the votes runs the country the other 64% are in disagreement. In the dictionary: Government by the people, majority rule.
    With more than 2 groups available this is not possible. Now if we had a " Left & Right " group with representatives in each group to chose from it would be a majority who would win. EG: Left, Head group and groups that wanted to join such as NDP, Liberal, Green and whoever. Then you would have Right, Head group and groups that want to join such as Conservative, Liberal, Green and whoever.

    Just my opinion and it is the only one I have.
    I do not think outside the box, I do not think inside the box, I do not even know where the box is.

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    Hello all,

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault View Post
    Canadians are complaining about the lengthy election season (2.5 months) that resulted from Harper dissolving Parliament earlier than required. Count your blessings, Canadians. There are 15 months to go until the next U.S. presidential/congressional election (Nov. 2016) and the campaign in the U.S. has already been going on for months. Relatively short election campaigns are a blessing of the parliamentary system.
    Canadians are complaining about having to wait 2 1/2 months? LOL! Our politicians would be suicidal if they only had 2 1/2 months. Even our state elections are insanely long. As for a large number of candidates. I think the U.S. Republican Party has around 16 right now...and that's for only 1 party. You guys are lucky indeed. We should our cut to 4 to 6 months, maybe start no earlier than July4 of the same year. But the money-grubbing politicians and PACS would never tolerate good sense.

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    The election and the (non) issue of prostitution

    We all know that Stephen Harper's Conservative party was mainly responsible for passing Canada's current Nordic-model (but seldom enforced) law on prostitution, commonly referred to by its original legislative number "C-36." But I was wondering what are the official positions on prostitution of the other major political parties, the Liberals and New Democratic Party (NDP).

    First, let's review the position of the Conservatives. In comparison to the Liberals and the NDP, the Conservatives make their position crystal clear:

    Conservative Party Policy Declaration 2013

    p.46 102. Sexual Exploitation in Canada
    The Conservative Party rejects the concept of legalizing the purchase of sex.
    We declare that human beings are not objects to be enslaved, bought or sold.
    We shall develop a Canada specific plan to target the purchasers of sex and human trafficking markets through criminalizing the purchase of sex as well as the acts of any third party attempting to profit from the purchase of sex.

    Before moving on to the positions of the Liberals and the NDP, it's important to note that the Conservatives enjoyed enthusiastic support for their position from some seemingly unnatural allies, feminists. When I say "feminists," I mean contemporary mainstream feminists, as described in these articles:

    Bill C-36: When conservatives and feminists collide

    And that brings us to the preamble of C-36, which lays out the guiding philosophy of the law. It is not a 19th-century philosophy: It is straight out of the 20th. The Parliament of Canada, we are told, “has grave concerns about the exploitation that is inherent in prostitution.” It also “recognizes the social harm caused by the objectification of the human body.” It is crucial not only to discourage prostitution itself, but to prevent its “commercialization and institutionalization.”

    This is the verbal palette of second-wave feminism, and hardly that of  William Ewart Gladstone. A Conservative government has problems with “commercialization and institutionalization” now? Stick it to the man!
    “Objectification of the human body” is an old favourite for those of us who entered university in the 1990s: “Objectification”, thought through all the way, is a frightful-sounding word for “buying a service from somebody.” Same thing with “exploitation.” Exploitation is inherent in buying sex, but equally so in buying a can of peas at the grocery store. You probably did not know that the Conservative prostitution bill contained a prolonged grumble about how only evil, nasty types of human relationships involve the exchange of money, with the implied alternative presumably being something out of John Lennon’s Imagine. But it does.

    Canada’s new prostitution law: Separating fact from fiction

    Canada’s new prostitution law is not a religious conservative attempt to limit women’s autonomy, as the bill’s opponents would have us believe. The sex industry does not consist of morally-neutral transactions between consenting adults, and sex trafficking is not a separate issue from prostitution. Rather, these are myths, presented as indisputable truth, perpetuated intentionally by those who want to (continue to) profit from exploitation.
    The truth is that the driving force behind Bill C-36 was a combination of the testimonies of women who have direct experience in prostitution, research from Canada and around the world on prostitution laws, and the lobbying efforts of women’s groups who seek an end to violence against women. This law stands as proof that what Canadian women want is equality, not exploitation.
    It has been implied by opponents that the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, who heard testimonies, studied, and evaluated the bill, was full of Evangelicals and Conservatives who sought to impose Christian morality on Canadians and who refused to listen to women in prostitution. Although there were some Evangelicals who testified in the hearings, they were far outnumbered by secular lawyers, academics, and women with no particular religious affiliation who testified about their own experience in the sex trade. These accusations against the committee were part of a strategy to discredit Bill C-36 in the eyes of Liberals and the left. And it seems to have worked — the Liberals and the NDP unanimously voted against the bill, despite testimony and research supporting it. In a strange turn of events, Conservatives helped pass feminist legislation, while the Liberals and the NDP attempted to stop it. Although this raises interesting questions about what it means to be on the political right or the left in Canada these days, there’s no real reason why prostitution should be a partisan issue — ending violence against women should be a no-brainer for any political party.

    So what are the official positions of the Liberals and the NDP? Well, I could not find any official statements comparable to that of the Conservatives on the respective websites of the Liberals and the NDP. However, the evidence is clear that neither the Liberals nor the NDP supported C-36. The website openparliament.ca records the votes of Canadian MPs on C-36. No Conservative MP voted against it and no Liberal or NDP MP voted for it.

    Does that mean that the Liberal party and NDP support the repeal of C-36 and the decriminalization or legalization of prostitution? Not necessarily. I can't find any concrete evidence of exactly what these two left-wing parties would do about the issue of prostitution if they win control of parliament. I think both parties would rather avoid the issue for now and the reason is clear. The Liberals and the NDP prefer not to alienate feminists and other women who might support C-36 by taking an official position on prostitution policy.

    In conclusion, I think C-36 is a big non-issue in this election. Until there is another court case that overturns C-36 on the same basis that the previous prostitution law was overturned, the main political parties will avoid the issue. So cast your vote based on any other issues that are important to you. Voting against the Conservatives or for the Liberals or NDP will not result in any changes in Canada's current law on prostitution.
    Strasser: By the way, the murder of the couriers, what has been done?
    Renault: Realizing the importance of the case, my men are rounding up twice the usual number of suspects.
    Heinze: We already know who the murderer is.
    Strasser: Good. Is he in custody?
    Renault: Oh, there's no hurry. Tonight he'll be at Rick's. Everybody comes to Rick's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol Tee Nutz View Post
    Be very afraid if the NDP win, you think things are bad now and taxes are high you have not seen anything.
    If things are bad in Quebec economically it is not the federal governments fault, the people you elected provincial over the last 50 years did all this.
    Again, revenge votes do not work, if you want Harper out make sure your choice will improve your lifestyle.
    since steve likes caling peopel by first names, i will call him steve and i would love to have reporters & other peopel adress him as stevey or stevo or stephen since he sees nothing wrong & unrespectful by adresing someone by first name. it is like trump giving the senators phone number on air & sees nothing wrong with it. they should put trumps phone number on the air & see if he still thinks nothig is wrong with it. steve doesnt play by the rules & changes rules to suit him. like how to stop the atack ads on him by intrest groups. drop the writ for election early so only partys can advertise. in terms of money spending for ads, increase it base on extra days b4 election since steve's party has more money than all 3 partys in quebec combined.

    in terms of the ndp, i think mulcair is saying wat people in each region wants to hear. in quebec, he is saying 50+1 is condition to win referendum on independance but in other provinces he doesnt say anything on this. he is allso saying that he will abolish the senate. he cant abolish the senate & he nos it... if he doesnt he is stupid. for him to abolish the senate, he would need all provinces suport and i beleive from senate as well. if he wants to reform senate (wich he doesnt), he wood need to suport from over 50% of provinces wich woud mean constitutional talks & provinces, territories coming with thier wish lists on wat they want in negotiasions.

    i cant beleive the liberals suported the bill c51 with all the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
    And your alternative is.......?
    Augustan Fascism with a 'touch' of Demarchy.

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