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    Honour pledge to resettle 25,000 Syrians

    http://www.thestar.com/opinion/edito...editorial.html
    How many will come to Quebec? to Toronto?
    How will we help them once in here?

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    Trudeau makes the promises, we pay the price.

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    I hate to say this but do we really want to support poor untrained Syrians ? How many of these individuals will be draining my taxes from the public coffers by way of living expenses and or social welfare. If anyone has walked through downtown Montreal they are aware of the fact that we have many people living on the streets of our city, some of whom will freeze to death this winter. Should we not ensure that our own poor are cared for before we open the doors of our country to the displaced ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggyluver View Post
    I hate to say this but do we really want to support poor untrained Syrians ? How many of these individuals will be draining my taxes from the public coffers by way of living expenses and or social welfare. If anyone has walked through downtown Montreal they are aware of the fact that we have many people living on the streets of our city, some of whom will freeze to death this winter. Should we not ensure that our own poor are cared for before we open the doors of our country to the displaced ?
    These Syrians are not "untrained." 90% of them are military age males who are leaving their wives and children behind...so make no mistake...they are trained.
    This whole refugee thing is a ruse and is a deployment strategy that is outlined in the Quran.
    Don't forget...Muhammad was not only a prophet...he was also a general.

    So...we will end up financially supporting those who are trying to destroy us.

    I think our government should look after our Veterans and homeless first...before opening the borders to others.

    Just my 2 cents...but my perspective is different than most because of what I have seen and done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggyluver View Post
    How many of these individuals will be draining my taxes from the public coffers by way of living expenses and or social welfare. ... Should we not ensure that our own poor are cared for before we open the doors of our country to the displaced ?
    Contradiction No.1: The people who complain that "they will be draining my taxes" are the same people, who upon learning that refugees are working in Canada, will complain that "they are stealing our jobs"!

    Contradiction No.2: The people who complain that "they will be draining my taxes" are not interested in ensuring that our own poor are cared for, because that "will be draining my taxes"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinX View Post
    Contradiction No.1: The people who complain that "they will be draining my taxes" are the same people, who upon learning that refugees are working in Canada, will complain that "they are stealing our jobs"!

    Contradiction No.2: The people who complain that "they will be draining my taxes" are not interested in ensuring that our own poor are cared for, because that "will be draining my taxes"!

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    My apologies but your statement makes very little sense. First of all I have NEVER had a day in my life when I have not worked and paid taxes so "stealing our jobs" not really a concern for me. I also realize that many immigrants will take low paying menial jobs that Canadians will not, so they do fill a void. But my concern goes to bringing these immigrants here, training them, teaching them two new languages so that they are employable is expensive. We have far too many people collecting welfare a lot of whom would work if they could get training to enable them to secure decent paying jobs. These are also a drain on a society that is for all intents bankrupt with you and I paying the bills.
    As to your second point, I help as often as I can, street people by handing them what I can. I donate my money and time to both the Old Brewery Mission and the Welcome Hall mission on a monthly basis. I would be more than open to an increase in taxes as long as the amount withheld was used directly to help the homeless. They need shelter, training, medical assistance and jobs. Why as a country of bleeding hearts we are more worried about refugees we see on TV than we are about the people we walk past during our daily lives is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggyluver View Post
    I hate to say this but do we really want to support poor untrained Syrians ?
    I believe you are misinformed about the education level of the Syrian refugees. Here are a couple of articles to set the record straight:


    More than one third of Syrian refugees arriving in Sweden are highly educated, suggests a new report from public broadcaster SVT.
    SVT reports that the wave of Syrian refugees coming to Sweden has given the nation its biggest influx of academics ever.

    A quarter of refugees in 2014 had higher education -- up almost five percent on the previous year. More than two-thirds of them had skills which matched graduate job vacancies.

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    Go ahead...keep believing what the media is feeding you...I only spent 20+ years in special operations...just don't bitch and moan when they start to takeover. Look at the U.K....going to hell in a hand cart....same will happen here...only a matter of time.

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    I do understand the concerns and as an European I know that the situation got out of hand over there.. they are in full panic-mode even in the most welcoming countries like Sweden and Germany because they realize those numbers are not sustainable.

    BUT there is a huge difference between Europe and Canada: Canada can control the influx of refugees, Europe cannot. They cannot control how many people show up at their borders. The authorities dont even know the real numbers for sure because most of the "refugees" cross the borders illegally. They also have massive immigration coming in from Africa (Libya, Somalia, Eritrea, Sudan) and other Middle Eastern countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen...we are only taking in Syrians.

    Canada has the advantage of being able to control process and document everybody who comes in. If the situation gets out of control it is very easy to stop bringing people in or drastically limit the numbers, especially if there is pressure from the population. . Also, as a refugee, the status is not permanent..if the conditions in Syria improve at some point in the near future many will be sent back.

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    The last thing we need are more religious zealots in North America. The problem is Sharia Law which wants to take us back to the 7th Century A.D. Dearborn, Michigan is already a De Facto Mecca West. Sharia does not permit assimilation with Western ideals. Wake up People! Do we really want SP's to be stoned?

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    Look what is happening right now in Paris...

    http://nypost.com/2015/11/13/gun-bat...-near-stadium/

    We're next if we let them in.

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    Agreed JTF2.

    I should of said now, now, now....not all muslims are terrorists just like the Anti-America Senator Dick Durbin said. Well no shit but an awful lot of them are. Why don't we find out who is a terrorist and kill them?

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    “Operation Syrian Refugees”
    The plan to welcome 25,000 Syrian refugees to Canada by the end of the year, entitled “Operation Syrian Refugees” is now available.

    Here are the highlights:
    • As many as 900 Syrian refugees could land each day in Toronto and Montreal starting as early as Dec. 1
    • The refugees will fly out of Amman, Jordan, beginning as early as Dec. 1
    • The Syrians will be identified by the United Nations and screened on the ground by Canadian officials, including from the CBSA and CSIS
    • After landing in Toronto and Montreal, the refugees will be housed at nearby sites, as well as in Cornwall, Ont., and Trois-Rivières, Que.
    • If the immigrants pass further health and security checks once in Canada, they will immediately become permanent residents
    • Federal government employees will need to work through the holidays


    http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/up-to-9...ment-1.2666663

    Up to 900 Syrian refugees a day to land in Toronto, Montreal: document

    CTVNews.ca Staff
    Published Thursday, November 19, 2015 7:30PM EST
    Last Updated Thursday, November 19, 2015 10:53PM EST

    As many as 900 Syrian refugees could land each day in Toronto and Montreal starting as early as Dec. 1, according to a government document obtained by CTV News.
    “Operation Syrian Refugees” shows the majority of the Syrians will come from camps in Lebanon, Jordan and perhaps Turkey.
    The refugees will fly out of Amman, Jordan, beginning as early as Dec. 1, at rate of up to 900 per day or 6,300 per week.

    The Syrians will be identified by the United Nations and screened on the ground by Canadian officials, including from the CBSA and CSIS, which will examine documents and biometric data, such as fingerprints.
    After landing in Toronto and Montreal, the refugees will be housed at nearby sites, as well as in Cornwall, Ont., and Trois-Rivières, Que.
    If the immigrants pass further health and security checks once in Canada, they will immediately become permanent residents.
    Federal government employees will need to work through the holidays, which will cost taxpayers plenty in overtime pay, according to the document.

    Calgary ready to accept up to 1,500

    Calgary’s mayor says his city is “ready to go.” Neheed Nenshi told CTV Power Play he met with more than 100 people Thursday to discuss how the city will integrate the 1,000 to 1,500 Syrians that he expects will be resettled in Alberta’s largest city.
    Nenshi said that, despite some negativity, “eight out of 10 people” he speaks to about refugees are simply asking, “How can I help?”
    The mayor said he had been approached by many people, including “a guy who owns a bunch of McDonald’s.” The man told him, “it’s not the best job, but it’s a job, and I can probably hire over 100 of them.”
    Nenshi also said some people -- including Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall -- are asking “fair questions” about whether Canada should take more time resettling the refugees in order to get it right.
    “(Wall) basically argued this should not be driven by numbers, it should not be driven by 25,000 by Christmas, but driven by a good process,” Nenshi said of Wall. “Nobody disagrees with that."
    "I think that even the greatest of Liberal supporters would say, if it ends up taking a little bit longer, nobody is going to be too fussed about it," he added.

    Mayor Nenshi blasts “hateful” comments
    Nenshi said that he has been bothered, however, by a small minority -- about two per cent -- who “are saying some hateful stuff.”
    "I think that we as Canadians need to stand up and say, 'This kind of conversation, this kind of rhetoric is not acceptable.'"
    The mayor said there is a "direct line" between hateful rhetoric and incidents this week in Toronto and Peterborough, where the Muslim communities have faced alleged hate crimes following the terrorist attacks on Paris.
    Nenshi also blasted “a rhetoric of divisiveness” from politicians during the federal election campaign.

    The mayor said that Canadians should have faith in the security screening process, and not worry that terrorists might pretend to be refugees.
    He pointed out that the plotters of last week’s deadly attack on Paris had French and Belgian passports.
    “If I have a French passport, I can be in Calgary in 12 hours with no screening at all,” he said.
    And the mayor suggested it's illogical to think terrorists are going to hide in refugee camps for years “in the hopes that I might end up somewhere I could eventually do something bad.”
    Nenshi said the real problem is homegrown radicalization.
    “When people get radicalized, it’s precisely because we’re not integrating them into society,” he said.

    “The real danger is not the people who come, but making sure we welcome and integrate them and give them a great chance once they get here.”

    With a report from CTV’s Mercedes Stephenson

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTF2 View Post
    These Syrians are not "untrained." 90% of them are military age males who are leaving their wives and children behind...so make no mistake...they are trained.
    This whole refugee thing is a ruse and is a deployment strategy that is outlined in the Quran.
    Can you show where you came up with the 90% number? And you say that they are "trained," implying military training. Any evidence of this? And where in the Quran is this refugee "deployment strategy" discussed?

    Lots of people in this thread sounding very confident about things which they seem to know very little about. It's not that I think these issues are easy; in fact, I think they're damned hard to figure out. But overheated rhetoric and xenophobic hatred doesn't help in a civil discussion.

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    These refugees, that I can't wait to welcome, are the victims of terrorism; the victims of extremist ideologies. They have been waiting for years in horrid camps in Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey. Welcoming 25,000 in a country as vast and as rich as Canada is the MINIMUM we should do.

    We are ALL immigrants here. We ALL have a story in our past that brought us to this country. Immigration is ALWAYS about the second and third generation. To be Canadian is to be an immigrant.

    And remember... sometimes "terror" is delivered by a B52 or a Predator drone. It isn't always delivered via a suicide vest.

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