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    Global Entry, Nexus, or Sentri?

    I know what the differences for the above are, but I'm curious as to what would be your deciding factors over getting one or the other. For example, Global Entry costs twice as much as a Nexus pass but the Nexus pass does so much more, why is that?

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    Nexus is good for all land entry from into the US but for flights only between Canada and the US. Global Entry is good for flights from anywhere. Since I mainly travel between Canada and the US, then the lower Nexus cost made it my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexgr8t View Post
    Nexus is good for all land entry from into the US but for flights only between Canada and the US. .
    Please correct me if I am wrong, but for U.S. citizens, I believe NEXUS comes with full Global Entry privileges when arriving from any country.

    As far as I can tell, the main negative to NEXUS is you have to do an in-person interview with both US and Canada agents at one of a handful of locations - border crossings and Canadian airports. YUL, of course, is one of the airports. So this is probably not too inconvenient for MERBites.

    I've found NEXUS to be incredibly useful at YUL for a number of reasons:

    When Arriving - You bypass the regular immigration line (which can get pretty long when a Air Transat widebody arrives) and go to the NEXUS kiosks. After the kiosk, you usually don't have to speak to an agent or get a passport stamp. If you are in the regular line and have a few recent YUL stamps, you can get pulled aside for additional questioning.

    When Departing - There is a dedicated line for NEXUS passengers which is shorter and at the metal detector it is like TSA Pre (can keep your shoes on, etc.) After the Global Entry kiosk, you do have to answer a couple of routine questions from the US immigration agent, but this has never taken me more than a minute or led to any additional questioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arthur_vandelay View Post
    Please correct me if I am wrong, but for U.S. citizens, I believe NEXUS comes with full Global Entry privileges when arriving from any country.
    Yes, NEXUS does comes with full Global Entry privileges for U.S. citizens. I know some of my friends that were denied going into Canada for a DWI or something in their past. Maybe a Global Entry pass is something they can get but would get denied getting the NEXUS card.

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    Yes, and you can get GE without even leaving NYC.

    To get NEXUS you have to schedule an appointment several weeks in advance at YUL and make a trip there to do the interview. Good excuse for an extra visit to Mtl lol. You won't actually receive the card until a few weeks after that.

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    So with my new NEXUS card in hand I bypassed a bunch of people waiting in the normal lanes (plus) held up my card to be scanned (easy enough), then was asked several questions (more than usual) by the border agent. Same thing happended on the way back to NYC. Maybe my expectations regarding the ease of crossing the border were greater because of the background check, interview, etc. that I had to go through just to get the NEXUS card. I really expected to answer a couple of standard questions and be on my way.

    I've read in a few different threads about being hassled at the border and answers typically given to questions. Maybe I should begin a new thread for this, but I'm curious other than flat out telling the border agents that I'm in Montreal to bang hot SP's and that's why I travel there so much, what would be a reasonable response to "why do you travel to Montreal so much" question?

    I have no family, friends etc. in Montreal. My answer is usually going for a hockey game if one is on the schedule, or I really enjoy the city and come often. Curious to what other MERBite's say.

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    When you cross the border they'll almost always ask you the purpose of your trip, sometimes they'll ask you more questions and sometimes it's just a "where are you going? When are you coming back? Have a good time". They even do random checks from time to time (I've had my card for 5 years and haven't had a random check yet though) . Overall it's much faster then going in the Non-nexus line, especially when coming back from the airport. 9 out of 10 times I don't even see a border agent on my entry back to Canada, straight to the luggage

    What's wrong with telling the agent that you really enjoy the city? That's the reason you come up right?

    One thing about this Nexus card is always tell the truth, because they'll be asking you questions they already know the answers too & if you lie then say goodbye to your card. Something as simple as "What day and around what time did you leave?"

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    If I remember correctly, I faced a lot of questions the first few times I used my Nexus card as well, but recently I have literally held the card out, rolled up to the window, been asked, "Do you have anything to declare?", said No, and been on my way in under 60 seconds... Going into CA that is. Coming back into the US is another story, usually, since the "Homeland Security" folks tend to be assholes.

    Regarding the "why:" I will usually say either going to visit friends, going to hear some music (find someone playing in a club somewhere ahead of time if you want), or even, "I live in a rural area and just coming up to enjoy the nightlife." Seriously, having fun is not illegal, and feeling nervous when you talk to the border agents is a good way to get them interested in you...
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    Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. When saying I enjoy the city on my last trip they asked me why would I drive 6 hours to come up to Montreal. To that I just repeated that I enjoy the city. It was a little heated, but I kept my cool and just took my time answering the questions and always trying to give yes and no answers when possible. Going to hear music sounds like a pretty good reason to be in town. Too bad I can't say I'm late for a massage at LePenthouse and need to get moving. lol.

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    Thegreatwaloo, I had a similar experience at the airport a few weeks ago. This was the first time I had gotten any questions entering Canada, it is usually the other way around. On exit from Canada this time, I got no questions at all. I think a person gets a minor hassle 10 percent of the time, so I just put it down to bad luck, and it took all of two minutes to get through the entry process once I got to the booth. But I spoke to two people. One who screens for fast entry and directs some entrants to a second booth. And the person at the second booth asked me a question about something I said to the first screener - so the first screener transmitted some information from his laptop to the person at the second booth.

    In general, I make a mental list of all the things I plan to do other than sex, and the specific locations I have in mind. Hiking Mont Royal, shopping at XXX clothing store, eating at ZZZ restaurant, etc. With the currency collapse, shopping is a good reason, but my worry of overdoing that explanation is the possibility of getting flagged on the way out to see if I go over the customs limit without declaring it, which is a damn good way to lose Global Entry.

    I got the questions I dislike the most, which is why would you take such a short trip and who do you know here. I always say that it is hard to find airline reward seats and that I only had enough hotel loyalty points for a short trip, so this is the only itinerary possible. I actually used the trump card I have always held back, but it was probably not necessary. I do know the real name of one lady in Montreal and I said I had met her clubbing the last time and I wanted to get together with her again. The implication was that I did not know her all that well, so a long trip would not be appropriate. I think the worst thing that happens if they do not believe a story is that they search your bags to see if you are a drug courier.

    One of the reasons I did not really want my bags searched is that I had brought some sex toys with me to enhance the sessions. But that story about the lady I know fit in well with a reason to bring some fun stuff. Even though it is extraordinarily unlikely that they would call the person I mentioned (and that would have been extremely awkward), I could have implied that she is probably married and that such a call could completely ruin the trip. Once again, I think it is paranoia to think they would actually call a number, so I thought it was worth it to launch the cover story. I guess there are two schools of thought. One is never lie since it might be discovered. The other is that a reasonable lie often works quite well.

    It is a shame that Canada does this occasionally. An American never gets any hassle traveling to Europe. The idea when a currency is weak and the economy is slowing is to have more tourists enter and spend money.

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    Thanks again for the terrific responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatwalooo View Post
    So with my new NEXUS card in hand I bypassed a bunch of people waiting in the normal lanes (plus) held up my card to be scanned (easy enough), then was asked several questions (more than usual) by the border agent. Same thing happended on the way back to NYC.
    Waloo, I've only crossed the border once via car with my NEXUS card, but had a similar experience. Going into Canada @ Plattsburg, the lane was empty and because it was my first time I missed the scanner and went straight to the booth. This seemed to piss-off the Canadian border agent and he sent me for a search lol. This experience made me prefer flying up from NYC even more. Just curious if others with NEXUS usually get waved through.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    I think a person gets a minor hassle 10 percent of the time, so I just put it down to bad luck, and it took all of two minutes to get through the entry process once I got to the booth.
    Patron, do you have NEXUS or not? If you have NEXUS, how did you get sent to the booth? Did the kiosk say you have to go to the regular line?

    Before I got NEXUS, I was sent for interrogation once at YUL. It wasn't a lot of fun and almost got caught in a white lie. Signed up for NEXUS that weekend lol. Now I just go from the NEXUS kiosk directly to the exit

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    Patron, do you have NEXUS or not? If you have NEXUS, how did you get sent to the booth? Did the kiosk say you have to go to the regular line?

    Before I got NEXUS, I was sent for interrogation once at YUL. It wasn't a lot of fun and almost got caught in a white lie. Signed up for NEXUS that weekend lol. Now I just go from the NEXUS kiosk directly to the exit
    I have Global Entry. I do not have Nexus.

    Global Entry does not really help a U.S. person getting into Canada at the airport. I suppose if a person were really getting drilled with questions, it might help, since the guy passed some level of U.S. scrutiny (but you do not want to come across as not respecting Canada, which could happen if you act like Global a Entry should exempt you from Canada's questions). But I only got a few questions so it was no big deal. Canada has now added electronic kiosks on the way in. After the electronic kiosk, there is a "simple screener" guy with a laptop on a podium who asks a few questions. He seemed to be waving about half of the people through, and sending about half to the real booths for additional questions. I was surprised that the person at the real booth mentioned an answer I gave to the "simple screener", so there is communication between them. I am not sure if each "simple screener" sends people to one real booth, or more than one real booth.

    Global Entry helps a U.S. person more upon leaving Canada, since the U.S. customs recognizes its existence.

    So are you saying that Nexus allows you to bypass all actual people at the airport when clearing Canadian Customs upon entering Canada? That sounds great. I wonder if a Global Entry person can get it automatically added with no further interviews and no more fees?

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    https://www.cbp.gov/faqs/how-do-i-ad...try-membership

    Found the answer to my question.

    There is an additional interview with Canadian customs, so it is probably not worth it for the infrequent visitor who enters through the airport.

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    the Interview with Canadian Customs is so they can take an eye scan and fingerprints & they explain the rules to you. If you've reached the interview stage you are pretty much accepted.

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