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    Bloody Mess or a Natural Occurance

    Ok, i was reading the reviews for Hope @ xxxtase and i think certain posts should be moved here, so mods please take a look and make a decision, leave the reviews and lets not dwell on a natural occurrence.

    I don't know how many relationships you have been in, but i have had more then i can count and this has happened to me in every relationship, it is a natural everyday occurrence, and i am talking about Aunt Flow,time of the month, cleansing period, what ever name you have.

    This has not happened to you in your every day life? None of you have been in long term relationships, living with your ladies, well i have and it has happened many times in the course of my sessions, and condoms were not worn, your finished with your romantic time with your GF and roll over there's blood on the sheets and your pecker, baby are you OK, there's blood? Shit, im 3 days early, it happens, sometimes even earlier, as much as a week or so early, this is normal guys. Ive been in relationships where i would be keeping a calendar to show when family comes to town, and guys, sometimes your intercourse actually provokes an early visit. No, i am not a doctor, but from long time experience and maybe a little sensitive to these things i can make comments like this.

    It has only happened once with an SP and the sheets had spots and she said "don't worry, im not due for another week and we were going at it pretty rough" so i said OK, it happens.

    OK, yes i agree that if a girl is working during her cleansing then she is being inconsiderate, and having said that, lets move on.

    So guys, it is OK to include what happened in your review if you want, but don't bash the girl for something that is a natural thing and can not be avoided, they don't have a choice on this occurrence and man, from what i have seen in all my years is that i wouldn't want to be in their shoes during this time, i mean yes i use to be sympathetic and said" baby i wish i could take some of this pain away from you" but you cant, all i would do is get the heating pad for them, get up in the middle of the night to fetch the Advil and a glass of water and massage their bellies.

    And guys, intercourse does relieve some of the pain for them,this is what the ladies have told me, so don't be selfish, help them with an orgasm, it has rewards later on. After all, they are willing to put up with the pain of this and childbirth.

    In my closing arguments here, i would say, move all the posts about something they can not control to this thread and leave Hope and the other ladies to their respected reviews, thank you.

    And guys, i am just saying, give them a break, no bashing or pointing of fingers, just observations. Mods, if you see fit, do what you need.Thank you.


    Have a great day guys,
    Thor Jr

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    Couldn't have put better words to concisely convey my exact sentiments. Wish I would have written it

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    Thor I am going to respectfully disagree with you

    Comparing a session with an SP to someone in our personal lives is fools play. In our personal lives we (typically) know our partner and have a general picture of their previous sexual history. With SP's you are talking about someone who has sex with hundreds (often thousands) of different sexual partners to which they know almost nothing about their partners sexual/drug/medical history. I know that is not that fantasy but that is the reality.

    So when I have blood on me of what is realistically a high risk stranger it is of great concern. Same reason that condoms are worn for FS.

    Nowadays there are multiple methods of birth control that either stop in total or greatly limit one's period. But if you are going to handle your period "the old fashioned way" I would expect that you take the appropriate safety checks to ensure you are not menstruating. Women have been doing this for hundreds of years in the worlds oldest profession. In my case, it seemed like those steps were bypassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Staub View Post
    Thor I am going to respectfully disagree with you

    Comparing a session with an SP to someone in our personal lives is fools play. In our personal lives we (typically) know our partner and have a general picture of their previous sexual history. With SP's you are talking about someone who has sex with hundreds (often thousands) of different sexual partners to which they know almost nothing about their partners sexual/drug/medical history. I know that is not that fantasy but that is the reality.

    So when I have blood on me of what is realistically a high risk stranger it is of great concern. Same reason that condoms are worn for FS.

    Nowadays there are multiple methods of birth control that either stop in total or greatly limit one's period. But if you are going to handle your period "the old fashioned way" I would expect that you take the appropriate safety checks to ensure you are not menstruating. Women have been doing this for hundreds of years in the worlds oldest profession. In my case, it seemed like those steps were bypassed.

    Well, i do agree with what you have said Rusty but i wasn't trying to compare, just stating that women are women, whether in the business or in your personal life. I just don't agree with bashing them for something that maybe they don't have control over. Write a review and lets not continue to dwell on a mistake made.

    After all, i don't go to the bar and tell strangers about my girl having her friend over while were having sex and how upset i am about it.

    Yes, its true that SPs should regulate their cycles because of the reasons you have given, but they did not ask for this occurrence, its something they have to do to cleanse their bodies.

    Like i said, i agree with the statements you have made,and good points were made, but like you said this is reality and women do what women do, to rant and rave about it, post after post, will not change it. And i am glad i opened this thread, this is where we should be discussing these kind of things.

    Thank you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Jr View Post
    to rant and rave about it, post after post, will not change it.
    I posted once

    My review reflects that I paid for one hour of professional services and I got about 20 minutes of what turned out of be unprofessional service

    And at no point did I bash the SP. I am sure a week before or a week after I would have been a very happy reviewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Staub View Post
    I posted once

    My review reflects that I paid for one hour of professional services and I got about 20 minutes of what turned out of be unprofessional service

    And at no point did I bash the SP. I am sure a week before or a week after I would have been a very happy reviewer.

    LOL, sorry Rusty, like i said in my original post, i was not pointing fingers at you, just in general about the thread on Hope, one review and then all posts about her mis fortune. Mis understanding Rusty. Peace and love, brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Staub View Post
    Nowadays there are multiple methods of birth control that either stop in total or greatly limit one's period.
    You are correct and I have first-hand knowledge of said methods. But consider this list of common side effects of depo-provera injections for example: weight gain, nausea, stomach cramping/bloating, dizziness, headache, tiredness, irritability, breast tenderness, decrease in breast size, acne, hair loss, decreased sex drive, hot flashes, joint pain, or irritation/pain/skin changes at injection site.

    I don't blame any girl who doesn't want to put herself through all that! Personally I haven't experienced all of these side effects, especially not decreased sex drive, that would definitely be a deal breaker for me. But the weight gain is troublesome, especially as most people have reported that the weight continues to accumulate as long as you continue treatment.

    I do feel for any gentleman who has the misfortune to experience this type of situation, but I certainly don't think we should expect providers to use medication to eliminate, reduce, or control their periods if they choose not to.

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    Two of the things I dislike the most in a review are complaints about blood and vaginal odor. Mostly because it is detrimental to our long-term interests.

    Women get temporary vaginal odor for a number of reasons, one of which is a yeast infection. Realistically, one cause is getting fingered a lot. While I am certainly fine with washing my hands and keeping short fingernails to minimize the risk to her, it pisses me off when a provider has a no digits policy. The more reviews there are complaining about temporary vaginal odor, the more no fingering policies there will be. And the odor is temporary, so by the time most people read a review, it is irrelevant.

    Same with blood spotting. If they have to be so concerned about a negative review that they do not work for three days prior to even the possible start of a period, there will be a lot less availability. And Christ, why is it that much bigger of a deal to have blood on a condom than vaginal fluid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiannas View Post
    You are correct and I have first-hand knowledge of said methods. But consider this list of common side effects of depo-provera injections for example: weight gain, nausea, stomach cramping/bloating, dizziness, headache, tiredness, irritability, breast tenderness, decrease in breast size, acne, hair loss, decreased sex drive, hot flashes, joint pain, or irritation/pain/skin changes at injection site.

    I don't blame any girl who doesn't want to put herself through all that! Personally I haven't experienced all of these side effects, especially not decreased sex drive, that would definitely be a deal breaker for me. But the weight gain is troublesome, especially as most people have reported that the weight continues to accumulate as long as you continue treatment.

    I do feel for any gentleman who has the misfortune to experience this type of situation, but I certainly don't think we should expect providers to use medication to eliminate, reduce, or control their periods if they choose not to.
    Wow, like i recently said i am no doctor, only going from what i have experienced with the ladies i have known past and present and i did not know of all these side effects. I certaily dont want to fall victim to any kind of STDs and i appreciate everything the ladies do to make this industry safe for both them and us, but i wouldnt want for them to go thru any of that. Its bad enough the cramps and headaches.

    Thank you Tiannas for the info , we learn something new everyday, and god forbid you have a decreased sex drive...


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    I respectfully disagree with you on this, Patron. Blood and vaginal odor are absolutely relevant in review threads, and are two of the most important red flags I scan for. I don't know about the correlation between digits and vaginal odor, but I like dining at the Y, and these issues entirely affect my ability to have fun.

    It's a matter of hygiene on the odor. There are plenty of girls who work a lot, and do not have this issue. I'd have to wrack my brain to remember this come up with LA K-girls who regularly have 6-8 clients a day and work 6 days a week. And in Montreal, for reference, Chloe was one of the hardest working SPs in the last two years with her availability and the number of clients she saw - not once in my embarrassing number of hours with her from last year to the first half of this year did I ever detect a hint of odor. It's not acceptable to be odious. It's fucking hygiene, SPs need to get their shit together and do it. We're the paying clients last I checked.

    On the blood. SPs are not little girls getting their first periods. It's a regular human thing. Just take the week off. Be conservative. That's how you do it right. And plenty of SPs do. But a lot of girls are selfish, and would rather eek out the extra day or two of earnings, and too bad for the client that takes the fall. I accept the lesser availability, I've had it happen regularly. I take that trade any day over getting blood on me. I agree with Rusty on that. With a GF, I get over it. With an SP, even though I know they get tested regularly, that's not a good feeling, and not acceptable.

    Now, sometimes shit happens, stress or something weird throws off a girl's cycle. OK, so they can't control it. But we as clients will never know what is the real truth. Stereotyping SPs in general - they tend to feign ignorance. Don't shit me otherwise and play white knight...

    Regardless of cause, the agency needs to make the client whole, and apologize for the incident. Part of the review is on the girl, part of it is on how the agency deals with that situation. Both parts equally important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    Two of the things I dislike the most in a review are complaints about blood and vaginal odor. Mostly because it is detrimental to our long-term interests.

    Women get temporary vaginal odor for a number of reasons, one of which is a yeast infection. Realistically, one cause is getting fingered a lot. While I am certainly fine with washing my hands and keeping short fingernails to minimize the risk to her, it pisses me off when a provider has a no digits policy. The more reviews there are complaining about temporary vaginal odor, the more no fingering policies there will be. And the odor is temporary, so by the time most people read a review, it is irrelevant.

    Same with blood spotting. If they have to be so concerned about a negative review that they do not work for three days prior to even the possible start of a period, there will be a lot less availability. And Christ, why is it that much bigger of a deal to have blood on a condom than vaginal fluid?

    No disrespect Patron, i agree with you on some levels here, but i did not find a problem with a reviewer telling us of his experiences or adventure, if this really happened by all means write it, i just don't like it when we go on post to post dwelling on the occurrence. IT IS NOT HER FAULT. If the lady is working and knows its her time then she should be reprimanded and shame on her, she is not being a responsible individual and is putting herself and others at risk.

    And as for a foul odor, like you said there many reasons for this and it most likely will go away. I would on most occasions let the girl know on the spot, if we are comfortable with each other and we have seen each other before, if its not a re occurring situation, i wont mention it in my review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfie7 View Post
    I respectfully disagree with you on this, Patron. Blood and vaginal odor are absolutely relevant in review threads, and are two of the most important red flags I scan for. I don't know about the correlation between digits and vaginal odor, but I like dining at the Y, and these issues entirely affect my ability to have fun.

    t's a matter of hygiene on the odor. There are plenty of girls who work a lot, and do not have this issue. I'd have to wrack my brain to remember this come up with LA K-girls who regularly have 6-8 clients a day and work 6 days a week. And in Montreal, for reference, Chloe was one of the hardest working SPs in the last two years with her availability and the number of clients she saw - not once in my embarrassing number of hours with her from last year to the first half of this year did I detect a hint of odor. It's not acceptable to be odious. It's fucking hygiene, SPs need to get their shit together and do it. We're the paying clients.

    On the blood. SPs are not little girls getting their first periods. It's a regular human thing. Just take the week off. Be conservative. That's how you do it right. But a lot of girls are selfish, and would rather eek out the extra day or two of earnings, and too bad for the client that takes the fall. I accept the lesser availability. I take that trade any day over getting blood on me. I agree with Rusty on that. With a GF, I get over it. With an SP, even though I know they get tested regularly, that's not a good feeling.

    Now, sometimes shit happens, stress or something weird throws off a girl's cycle. OK, so they can't control it. But we as clients will never know what is the real truth. Stereotyping SPs in general - they tend to feign ignorance. Don't shit me otherwise...

    Regardless of cause, the agency needs to make the client whole, and apologize for the incident. Part of the review is on the girl, part of it is on how the agency deals with that situation. Both parts equally important.
    I agree and i think i just almost wrote the same thing, we seem to do this alot Wolfie. lol.. Great minds huh.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Jr View Post
    I agree and i think i just almost wrote the same thing, we seem to do this alot Wolfie. lol.. Great minds huh.....


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    I promise, y'all can check, we are not the same person!

    Yes, we have done this a few times now. Great minds, indeed!! Ahahaha...

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    You guys make good points. I just find if irritating when I encounter the rare no digits provider, and trying to avoid bacteria is always the reason they give. Unless they are truly spectacular in other areas, I rarely repeat with someone with this restriction.

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    SPs really should make sure clients wash their hands, then. As I've mentioned before, I've always appreciated the script LA K-girls go through. In the shower process, they also thoroughly wash the clients hands and nails.

    Just like some SPs make a thorough inspection of junior before going in for a BBBJ (which I have zero problems with, and I think is entirely within their right), SPs should do the same for hands and fingers. You wouldn't just let some nasty, grubby finger poke you anywhere, would you?

    Think that would alleviate your problem, Patron. I agree with you in the sense that service restrictions are never any fun. And the more we can proactively prevent them, the better.

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