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    What are your thoughts on the CBJ issue.?

    Ok, i searched for a thread on this cause i was sure someone would of bitched about before. It seems more ladies out there are going this route, and in no way am saying its wrong, someone stated in another thread that its their bodies and they can do what they want with it, yes i agree. What i wished they would do is to include it in their bios, and this goes for everything else, cause, i am meeting ladies and they have come with to many restrictions, some encounters, there was no DFK, no hair touching, no bbbj, only lite kissing on lips and a cbj, its ok, but we should know this in advance, and i know, if they do include these things in their bios, they may get fewer clients, its possible, but we as clients should be advised of restrictions before hand. There are a few ladies i will see again even with the restrictions, i enjoyed their company and what they offered i was ok with.

    So, my vote on this is, i dont like CBJ, kissing after, if its allowed, just tastes funny, i would rather taste myself on her tongue then latex.


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    I don't think we can blame SPs for being subtle about what they offer. Honestly I think it's up to us, clients, to ask. If the info is not on their bios then contact her by text and ask, it's only logical to do so.

    Everytime I see a new girl I ask my favorite agency a few days in advance exactly what she offers and they always share the info with me, same when I see a indy girl. I've never went to an appointment without knowing in advance what the girl offers. A lot of clients are too lazy to investigate and expect the girl to do everything for them. I'm not saying it's your case, Thor, since you are a very respected Merbist. But it seems like we see a lot of this lately on the forum, clients complaining about things they can do themselves.


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    Yes i agree with you and i do my homework, i read bios, reviews and ask questions, but sometimes even the booker is not sure, if a girl is new, and no reviews are posted, its a TOFTT kind of thing. I do ask bookers, especially if a girl speaks English, cause talking french for two hours gives me a head ache and the bookers always respond by saying hold on let me ask her if she speaks English. lol. Sometimes a girl will say she does CBJ in case she doesn't like the guy or if hes dirty or smells bad and she doesn't have to do it and other times she will arrive and see that your clean and a nice guy, she changes her restrictions, this is ok, i keep this in mind when i ask the questions. If its no then its no, i don't have a problem, i respect their wishes, it may be the difference on a repeat or not.

    Just my opinion...

    Thanks for your feed back GJ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GentlemanJon View Post
    If the info is not on their bios then contact her by text and ask, it's only logical to do so.

    A lot of clients are too lazy to investigate and expect the girl to do everything for them. I'm not saying it's your case, Thor, since you are a very respected Merbist. But it seems like we see a lot of this lately on the forum, clients complaining about things they can do themselves.


    I prefer being 100% clear on my website to avoid having to answer the same questions over and over again, and waste my time just to have guys tell me my services and/or rates don't interest them. I really don't have patience for this. I took the time to make my website as detailed as possible, and I expect clients to take that same amount of time to read what I wrote BEFORE contacting me.

    If the information needed isn't clearly posted, then yes, clients should do their job and ask. I personnally make sure that guys have visited my website and understood the acronyms before I proceed with the booking. I even ask them if they have any more questions for me.



    Some ladies might prefer discretion as to what they offer or not. Not every girl wants to world to know she does this or that. Some people prefer their sex life to be private, even on job.

    Posting too much can be good and bad. Example of bad is if a lady openly says she does CIM... Some guys could be turned off by that, and won't go see her. But if she doesn't put it out there, those same guys will go see her and will never know she does exactly what they don't like.

    It might be for YMMV reasons. Maybe she doesn't want to risk having gentlemen insist on getting a specific service she listed in her ad if she's not "feeling" them.

    Maybe she just wants to give the least amount of services during the meeting. If the guy didn't ask for something, then she doesn't give that something and pretends she doesn't offer it.

    Or maybe she offers special services to repeat customers only. This is very common.

    Didn't the new law forbid sex workers to post services in their ads and website?

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    All great points MLM. i have to agree, and sometimes we just make an observation of things we experience and not think of the reasons for certain things. And i appreciate the bios of ladies with websites, very specific and to the point, you are right about just telling it as it is to avoid answering questions that are common in this business and i guess the change in laws these past years would say that you should not advertise certain aspects of your business.

    Thank you for your comments, they do make sense.

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    This is one of the reasons why montreal girls many times earn much more in ottawa and more out west (besides the general cost of things being higher out there)
    Most providers would never even dare perform a bbbj around there.
    In fact many clients have no idea what gfe is, and if they do..their gfe doesnt involve a bbbj.
    The girls west of us that do perform bbbj's usually charge an extra for it.
    The montreal 'liberal' sp service commands top dollar elsewhere.

    over here i have not seen an increase in cbj demanding providers, the girls that i see advertising cbj only services are touring girls from other parts of canada (the exact opposite of what i stated above)
    In terms of local providers, the grand majority provide bbbj and our gfe has a bbbj included.
    If my memory serves me well, ive only met 1-2 girs since i met emma foster that has ever obliged cbj
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    Personally when i started GFE was kissing/bbj Cim was listed as a service with or without extra(back then more often without)

    These days, services are not allow to be listed on the board, some does it anyway in a more subtile way wich i apreciate. For exemple "i am open minded" mean usually she is open with either cim or cof, or it may be greek, but she is surely not "no kissing no bbj"

    I always said it, and i will say it again, if CBJ become the norm, i will either stop seeing escorts and/or lower a lot my meeting frequencies. Honestly for me there is a "routine" to a meeting. Not saying something else can't be included like striptease or whatever, its always welcomed lol, but to me usually it start with kissing. Some are more LFK, others DFK, i apreciate DFK the most but i can live with LFK, as long as she is hot and turn me on, usually this is when the engine start. I get hard and then she proceed to for the BJ. Then the rest of the session depend on the girl. I had session where i would come from simply the BJ, others where we go to FS, other where i will cum so fast because she is very good and the chatting was short that we have time for a round 2 and this time it include FS. Some rare exeption i go DATY but this is YMMV for me hahaha.

    So yeah sessions are all different, but kissing/bbj is like part of the thing for to be mandatory. And as some of you noticed over the years i tend to go for providers that allow CIM or COF. I am a very gentle guy in bed, not a hair puller, i usually let the girl suck by herself, sometimes i may use my hand on her head but very gentle and folllow her motion, unless she clearly say she don't mind or whatever, i am really a teddy bear in bed usually. BUT the grand finale is part of what i love, it has a little naughty factor i love and i dunno, i guess i watched too much porn lol. But there is nothing like a pretty girl looking at you while you cum in her mouth or face, and then she look at you with a naughty look either after swallow it all, or have a mouthfull or with sperm on her cheeks. Anyway lol, i just love that. Im not an anal lover at all, i mean i did it a few time and maybe in the futur i may do it again, but its clearly not something i aim for, but cim/cof yeah...

    In rare ocasion i do see girls that either does not do it at all, or i take a guess... Uusually the provider have to have that little something... either i saw her at a party, i loved her attitude or i dunno, stuff like that. Some agencies are also very shy with there services listing/mentioning so you kinda have to follow reviews and those can be YMMV....

    Anyway... all of this to say i prefer an "above neck" finale but i can settle with COB if i really have to. But don't say to me to come in a condom, i can't even do that(never did, doubt ill ever do) and its a total turn off for me...

    So yeah, if a girl is not frisky about sperm, she will do BBJ, so CBJ.. no thanks.
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    Someone mentioned in another thread that condoms were not invented for BJs, and i guess this is true, as for me, i like the feel of a wet mouth and saliva dripping down from all sides and like you HM, i don't force their heads in any direction but i do like to play with their hair and massage their scalps, i let them set their own pace and depth.

    As for the CIM concept, i have never asked for it, not saying that it hasn't happened or that i have refused it, i always let them know before i am going to explore the nether regions of their mouth and most of the time they have asked me to CIM. As for the COF, if it happens, ok but i am more of a COB kind of guy.

    In the end, we are alike HM, i aim to please, ill suck, lick, bite, thrust and whatever i have to do to make sure we both have a good time, i am a tender lover and rough when need be, but always a gentleman, i have at times asked politely if it was ok to lick the petals of their beautiful flower.


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    I've had clients who requested CBJs and I respect that, but ick. Sucking on rubber is about as appealing as licking my car's tires.

    But - I refuse to list or reference any sexual services on my site, and most advertising sites prohibit this now. In Montreal at least many providers will discuss their services prior to an engagement, in the US most girls won't even discuss this for safety reasons. The only way to have an idea of their services is by reading reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky bonds View Post
    This is one of the reasons why montreal girls many times earn much more in ottawa and more out west (besides the general cost of things being higher out there)
    Most providers would never even dare perform a bbbj around there.
    In fact many clients have no idea what gfe is, and if they do..their gfe doesnt involve a bbbj.
    The girls west of us that do perform bbbj's usually charge an extra for it.
    The montreal 'liberal' sp service commands top dollar elsewhere.

    over here i have not seen an increase in cbj demanding providers, the girls that i see advertising cbj only services are touring girls from other parts of canada (the exact opposite of what i stated above)
    In terms of local providers, the grand majority provide bbbj and our gfe has a bbbj included.
    If my memory serves me well, ive only met 1-2 girs since i met emma foster that has ever obliged cbj
    Just want to point out that in Vancouver, where I saw indy (no agencies) I had bbbj on my 4 encounters there. Maybe I was lucky I dont know. I did not ask anything (I never do, I go with what the lady wants). In Toronto and Ottawa, your right it was cbj only, unless the girl was from Quebec

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiannas View Post
    I've had clients who requested CBJs and I respect that, but ick. Sucking on rubber is about as appealing as licking my car's tires.

    But - I refuse to list or reference any sexual services on my site, and most advertising sites prohibit this now. In Montreal at least many providers will discuss their services prior to an engagement, in the US most girls won't even discuss this for safety reasons. The only way to have an idea of their services is by reading reviews.
    Hahahaha, licking car tires, LMAO, ROF, thats so funny, do people do that? There was a movie where the guy was licking everything, car tires included, cant remember the movie, but i will.

    As for the disclosure in their bios of services is a sketchy area, and i understand that they cant advertise certain aspects of their services, and we must do our homework and read reviews and at times when no reviews or info is posted, its a TOFTT thing and im a trooper, ill do it and post it here so the next person will know.

    When a woman says she prefers CBJ cause she doesn't like the taste of pre-cum in her mouth, well, i have had a taste of MY pre-cum and i prefer it then to the taste of rubber. For heavens sake, i don't even like the taste a balloon leaves on my lips when i blowing them up. Yuk. So i guess i know how you feel Tiannas.

    But in the end, it would be nice to know of certain services are to be included,or excluded, its like anything else in life, and life is not perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiannas View Post
    I've had clients who requested CBJs and I respect that, but ick. Sucking on rubber is about as appealing as licking my car's tires.
    Thanks for the laugh
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    Quote Originally Posted by MochaLaMulata View Post
    Didn't the new law forbid sex workers to post services in their ads and website?
    Actually, well sorta...

    The new law actually forbids communication of sexual services. That being said, the government now sees services providers as victims (lol, I've met quite a few service providers, and victim is not a word I'd use to describe any of you) and consequently are immune from the effects of these laws.

    So ultimately, the customer who "does his job" and openly asks about services is leaving an electronic paper trail of evidence against him... technically.

    I'm not a legal expert, but am pretty confident in this interpretation based on multiple readings and re-readings when everything came out.

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    I don't know if there is an increase in women offering CBJ but I know there are more antibiotic resistant bacterias which scares more and more clients (mainly the married ones) and escorts (who are often also married or in a relationship and for many, the BF does not know they are escorts).

    American and Brits scientists are ringing the alarm right now because Gonorrhea may soon be untreatable. In US only last year, 350 000 people contracted it and there are probably many more who don't know they have it. Plus, when contracting it in the mouth and throat, it usually goes without symptoms. In men, gonorrhea can cause pain when urinating including discharge from the penis. If untreated, it can cause problems with the prostate and testicles.

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-...957665/?no-ist

    In conclusion, if scientists can't find quickly new anitbiotics, you will see an increase for demand also, not only offer. Nobody likes it but what are the other options? Once you are stuck with it because you happend to be antibiotic resistant, you will need to have CBJ for the rest of your life and cover intercourse as well with your SO. That's sounds fun doesn't it!

    We should all take time to think about it. Not fun but we have to face that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartnsexy View Post
    Actually, well sorta...

    The new law actually forbids communication of sexual services. That being said, the government now sees services providers as victims (lol, I've met quite a few service providers, and victim is not a word I'd use to describe any of you) and consequently are immune from the effects of these laws.
    Just to to clear, no they did make it so that we are not allowed to advertise sexual services, and we are definitely not immune. The only thing legal for us is the exchange of money for sexual services, everything else related to our job is pretty much illegal.

    Now onto the CBJ topic(since it's not really an "issue").. personally I will always prefer bbbj, no matter what, and Tiannas said it best!
    However, I completely understand why more and more girls are offering CBJ only, since it's quite easy to catch something these days, and most just don't want to risk it and I get that completely!

    That being said, I've never understood the guys who request CBJ, but will still go for DATY or DFK..boggles my mind :P
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