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    Expos/Nationals

    I'm interested in others views on the continuing soap opera being played out now in Washington. Still no new stadium deal. Estimates now are that instead of $400 million a new stadium will cost $700 million. And MLB is taking the dispute to arbitration and not turning over the team to an ownership group until there's a stadium deal in place.

    I miss the Expos and baseball is a great game, but I'm pleased the city didn't bend over for the extorters running MLB.

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    I'm still broken up about it...

    Quote Originally Posted by JLB
    I miss the Expos and baseball is a great game, but I'm pleased the city didn't bend over for the extorters running MLB.
    All I know is that I lost my best excuse to visit to Montreal!
    Memory loves time

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybaritic
    All I know is that I lost my best excuse to visit to Montreal!
    Hear, Hear!

    It was also VERY nice to be able to get excellent seats for any team which visited at the best prices in the league. Scalpers weren't even part of the equation. Try getting good seats to Fenway for yourself and two kids for less than $300, and were not even TALKING about a Yankees' series in Fenway! I had always dreamed that the Expos would somehow return to their glory days and make it to the World Series so I could see a Fall Classic and not have to take out a mortgage to afford the tickets. Montreal got screwed by MLB no doubt but while I respect Canadian government for not caving in to MLB for free money in the long run that is ONE of the major reasons why the Expos' are gone.
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    I completly agree with you!! Except for the fact that I was for the Expos... And personnaly, I think the real reason why the Expos are gone is becuz they didnt want to see an Expos/Blue Jay World series!

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    Expos VS Blue Jays Canadian Domination??? Both teams and all of Baseball are loaded with Dominican's and Puerto Ricans. It's not even an American sport anymore. I don't see how Canada is dominant in a sport when the only Canadian I ever knew that played for the Expos during that time was Larry Walker.

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    Hey! Don't forget Quebec's Claude Raymond!!

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    Interesting

    I've never heard anyone in the US vocalize such a thought! Who thinks this way? I think it is fair to say that we in the US too often forget our friends to the north, but we have always thought of you as our friends! We are more likely to be guilty of forgetting that we are different countries. It's only when I listen on boards like this that I hear this kind of rhetoric. Hey, it's just baseball!

    Remember that virtually nobody attended the Expos games. Most minor league teams draw better crowds in the US. I remember crowds there of under 2000 people--for SF when Barry Bonds was in the midst of his record setting season! That was great for us visitors, but pretty impractical for a major league franchise. I should make a trip over to Toronto for a game this summer. How is attendance there? Harder to get tickets?


    Quote Originally Posted by mtlman2005
    I completly agree with you!! Except for the fact that I was for the Expos... And personnaly, I think the real reason why the Expos are gone is becuz they didnt want to see an Expos/Blue Jay World series!
    Memory loves time

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    sybaritic,

    These were the Expos attendance figures from the time they entered the Olympic Stadium until 1989 incl.

    1977 1,433,757
    1978 1,427,007
    1979 2,102,173
    1980 2,208,175
    1981 1,534,564
    1982 2,318,292
    1983 2,320,651
    1984 1,606,531
    1985 1,502,494
    1986 1,128,981
    1987 1,850,324
    1988 1,478,659
    1989 1,783,533

    Yes they were bad for the last several yrs as the locals deemed that they were conspired against by MLB. These attendance figures are far from bad except for a couple.

    Frankly I don't know for sure if they were or not but no way MLB would have liked to EVER see an Expos/Blue Jays World Series as this would have less than a disaster for the American baseball viewing public.

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    1989 was quite a while ago, man.

    Substitute the networks for MLB and you might be right; they wouldn't have liked such a series because they would never sell enough advertising to cover their financial commitment! But remember, they weren't happy when KC played St. Louis either....

    Quote Originally Posted by StripperLover
    sybaritic,

    Yes they were bad for the last several yrs as the locals deemed that they were conspired against by MLB. These attendance figures are far from bad except for a couple.

    Frankly I don't know for sure if they were or not but no way MLB would have liked to EVER see an Expos/Blue Jays World Series as this would have less than a disaster for the American baseball viewing public.
    Memory loves time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman
    Hey! Don't forget Quebec's Claude Raymond!!
    Forget him? I never heard of him, who did he play for and what position?

    Kevin Gagnes' name probably rings a bell around here however, no?

    There certainly are a lot of Dominican players in the league but there are still a good number of white guys and non Dominican hispanics and blacks as well. As far as the game, it is native to the US and will always be an American game because of that, doesn't matter what nationality plays it. If Jamaica wins the Olympic gold in Hockey they still can't lay claim to it as "their game."

    Heres an interesting question as to who owns what. James Naismith was from Canada correct? He attended McGill if I am not mistaken. He later moved to the states where he invented Basketball. Is Basketball then native to the US or is it a Canadian sport?
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    Claude Raymond was a pitcher for the Expos in the 70's. And I think you meant Eric Gagne, not Kevin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman
    Claude Raymond was a pitcher for the Expos in the 70's. And I think you meant Eric Gagne, not Kevin.
    Claude Raymond firdt played for the Milwaukee Brave Here another name Ferguson Jenkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techman
    Claude Raymond was a pitcher for the Expos in the 70's. And I think you meant Eric Gagne, not Kevin.
    Your right Techman, I mistakenly stated Kevin(an old college buddy).
    Is baseball a big sport in high school in Quebec? Must be popular to some degree to have produced Gagne (and Raymond, any others?).
    "I can picture every move that a man could make
    getting lost in her loving is your first mistake

    Sometimes I think its a sin
    When I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again"

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    HS and college sports are nowhere near what they are in the US. When I was in school, which was a long time ago, we had few school sports teams and little inter-school competition. We did have a bowling team Most kids played in privately run sports leagues. Even today, my friends who have kids have them playing in non-school related teams. But I would say that the main sports here, for kids, are hockey followed closely by soccer, then baseball, football and basketball. Of course I could be worng as I do not have kids.

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    How about Larry Walker from BC ?

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