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Thread: Trafficking crackdown initiative

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    Trafficking crackdown initiative

    I'm all for catching and exposing those who are exploiting women. Hopefully innocents don't get caught in the crossfire. Any hobbyists not dealing with reputable agencies or indys should exercise caution.

    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/nouv-ne...160606-fra.htm

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    From the quoted article:

    "People who purchase sexual services should know that most of the women who engage in prostitution are under the control of pimps."

    Statements like this make me angry. Where do they get this "most women" from? Certainly there are many women working for agencies in Montreal, however, the agency owners and employees I know are not "controlling pimps". There are also many independents working of their own free will. I just wish for once the media would be fair and truthful about this industry instead of distorting the truth to push their own agendas.

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    tiannas, it is very rare that we see an official press release signed by the SPVM stating such bullshit. They know better than that. They kind of dropped the ball here.

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    I saw something in the news about an initiative to stamp out selling of sex during the Grand Prix. I do not think there is more going on during GP than at any other time. It is the cause du jour. To many of these look at me do gooders want their 15 minutes of fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reverdy View Post
    Now they're all scrambling to show that they're doing something, and giving money for misguided initiatives that will achieve nothing.
    Never underestimate the power of a desperate politician. Politicians are people lower than pieces of amphibian shit at the bottom of the ocean. They need to create the perception of a problem in the publics mind so that they can solve it. You can not fix real problems because this requires time, effort, and the ability to implement good policy, etc. Instead, you create the perception of a problem that doesn't really exist. Then you can fix something that wasn't broken in the first place. But who would know? Just create a back page sting and bust johns and suddenly you are taking a bite out of crime and you are fighting trafficking, under aged prostitution etc... After all, no woman in her right mind would ever sell her body to a man unless she was forced to do so by another man, correct?

    Trafficking is a local favorite where I live. We have several politicos that have brought trafficking to the forefront and have vowed to stop it....until they are reelected. There is one problem: There is no one being traficked here!!!! I wish they would pick global warming, GMOs, running out of land fill space due to Jewel boxes for DVDs and other bogus problems that do not exist. At least these don't interfere with my hobby.

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    Yes @reverdy laval police already promised a part 2 to their underage girl sting.

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    I try to analyze things from an economics perspective since I think that law and politics are both bullshit, and the media is a big nothing. I digress, but my favorite portrayal of the media was in the great movie Apocolypse Now, where the moronic journalist begins to worship Captain Kurtz and follow him around so much that no one, especially Kurtz, could stand him. He is a trivial but important symbolic character in the movie.

    The media does not think, but is directed by those who do. Those that direct the media are primarily advertisers.

    I have a theory that those who benefit from commercial sex are difficult to market to.

    Those who oppose it are much easier to market to.

    Who benefits? Women who are recreational about sex. How do they benefit? They make significantly more money doing this, generally part time, than they would make doing any other activity during that same period of time.

    Who else benefits? The johns, of course.

    The percentage of women who are successful in selling sex is a very small percentage of the total number of women. Face it, most women are not physically attractive enough to make money doing this, and of the women who are attractive enough, most feel it would detract so much from otherwise enjoying life that they choose not to sell sex. Fine with me, no one should be forced into or out of prostitution.

    The percentage of men who purchase commercial sex is also a relatively small percentage of total men.

    I may be wrong about this, but I strongly suspect that buyers and sellers of sex are a more cynical lot than those who do not partake on a regular basis. Cynical people are just not as succeptible to advertising than non-cynical people.

    Who opposes prostitution? Those who do not benefit from it. Which is the majority of the population. Who really opposes it? Deeply religious people and those who like a lot of structure in society. I know this is offensive, but if I am doing an advertisement for a product, I can more easily convince someone to buy something who thinks that two of everything sailed around in that Ark than I can convince someone to buy something who spends his time comparing and contrasting two hot escorts based on reading merb reviews.

    So if I am an advertiser, why the hell would I want them to run a bunch of articles or video segments questioning the time tested belief that commercial sex is wrong? I am just going to piss people off who might buy the product I am advertising. And if some of those readers or viewers are forced to think and reason as a result of reading that article, they might just start thinking about a bunch of things I don't want them thinking about - like whether my advertised product is really something they need and whether it is better than my competitor's product.

    So we will never see real debate about this subject in the mainstream media.

    With gays and lesbians, it was different because it was easier to do niche marketing to them. They are a more homogeneous group that had good disposable income and frankly wanted to be more mainstream. Hookers and johns are a bitch to niche market to.

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    Hi, I wanted to ask is hobbying relatively safe this week? I just read that site and to be honest that photo scares the *** out of me...is this only going to go on for this week? maybe it would be better to lay low until this thing passes?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juulik View Post
    Hi, I wanted to ask is hobbying relatively safe this week? I just read that site and to be honest that photo scares the *** out of me...is this only going to go on for this week? maybe it would be better to lay low until this thing passes?
    Thanks!
    The picture gives the impression that the police regularly bust down hotel doors. In reality that is not how policing works. It is certainly a week to stick with ladies on Merb, either agencies or independents, and stay away from backpage and annonce123.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post

    I may be wrong about this, but I strongly suspect that buyers and sellers of sex are a more cynical lot than those who do not partake on a regular basis. Cynical people are just not as succeptible to advertising than non-cynical people.
    Nope, your not wrong. You got me pegged. I agree with all of the above and oh yes, I hate the fucking media as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    Who really opposes it? Deeply religious people and those who like a lot of structure in society. I know this is offensive, but if I am doing an advertisement for a product, I can more easily convince someone to buy something who thinks that two of everything sailed around in that Ark than I can convince someone to buy something who spends his time comparing and contrasting two hot escorts based on reading merb reviews.
    When you say who really opposes prostitution are you not forgetting one notable group? What about the hair-clipped, wire glasses wearing, plain-jane, man-hating, militant feminist? You know the type. The pathetic middle aged woman that no one ever wanted to fuck. They are all over the cable news stations and on NPR. She takes to the air-wave spouting psycho-bable about the exploitation of young women and how the feminists are going to save these women by stopping the demand. The real reason the average feminist is so surly is because no one ever asked her to prom or homecoming. She sat home every school dance. Since no one ever wanted to fuck her she is here to make sure that no one gets laid. They want us all as miserable as they are. Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. And oh yes, that is what most male-hating feminists are: Scorned women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Nope, your not wrong. You got me pegged. I agree with all of the above and oh yes, I hate the fucking media as well.



    When you say who really opposes prostitution are you not forgetting one notable group? What about the hair-clipped, wire glasses wearing, plain-jane, man-hating, militant feminist? You know the type. The pathetic middle aged woman that no one ever wanted to fuck. They are all over the cable news stations and on NPR. She takes to the air-wave spouting psycho-bable about the exploitation of young women and how the feminists are going to save these women by stopping the demand. The real reason the average feminist is so surly is because no one ever asked her to prom or homecoming. She sat home every school dance. Since no one ever wanted to fuck her she is here to make sure that no one gets laid. They want us all as miserable as they are. Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. And oh yes, that is what most male-hating feminists are: Scorned women.
    You are correct. It is really disturbing to read the blogs regarding what they call radical feminism. They relate it to witchcraft. They truly want all men to disappear and they hate any woman that significantly interacts with men, which would obviously include sex workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patron View Post
    You are correct. It is really disturbing to read the blogs regarding what they call radical feminism. They relate it to witchcraft. They truly want all men to disappear and they hate any woman that significantly interacts with men, which would obviously include sex workers.
    Funny to read you guys... Of course these groups probably view us here as depraved pervert. To which I would reply, "only once in a while, if the chemestry is there"

    Cheers,

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    I think this is the beginning of a long period of crack downs. This mayor of ours was talking about cracking down on massage parlors even before he was elected. He is uses political correctness to advance his political career. He wants to make the people believe that he is making Montreal a a modern metropolis that will attract flocks of tourist and there will be economic prosperity. Yet he is the one trampling on the livelihood of many businesses with his grandiose schemes. The Grand Prix is just the beginning. He will be cracking down on the adult industry again and again between his pet projects. He knows that most of the population ( including hobbyist ) will agree with him in public about his move to clean the city up. In this politically correct world the posers and pretenders will not go against him. You can expect that after the Grand Prix the mayor will slowly but surely close up all the visible adult entertainment places. This will stretch to next summer and beyond the 375 th. anniversary of Montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSOP View Post
    I think this is the beginning of a long period of crack downs.
    Any crack down yet? If any, you can expect it to be in the Chinese owned mp businesses since the CBSA is involved in the campaign. It's a bit unfortunate because we have rarely seen any clear cases of exploitation in these mp's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugu View Post
    Any crack down yet? If any, you can expect it to be in the Chinese owned mp businesses since the CBSA is involved in the campaign. It's a bit unfortunate because we have rarely seen any clear cases of exploitation in these mp's.
    I agree that those would be the easiest places to bust. The Asian spas and the girls who work there are also the easiest to stick with the "trafficking" label. Some of the girls are probably in the country illegally and it's easy for law enforcement to intimidate them and get them to agree to whatever the authorities want them to say or do. It plays according to a script. The media and the feminists will pat themselves on the back and the public will be bamboozled yet again.

    Strasser: By the way, the murder of the couriers, what has been done?
    Renault: Realizing the importance of the case, my men are rounding up twice the usual number of suspects.
    Heinze: We already know who the murderer is.
    Strasser: Good. Is he in custody?
    Renault: Oh, there's no hurry. Tonight he'll be at Rick's. Everybody comes to Rick's.

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