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    Food Allergies and Restaurants

    It was on the news that a customer who went into a restaurant at Sherbrooke had severe allergies to salmon. He said he told the waiter that served him many times that he is allergic to salmon and asked for beef tartar. The waiter ended up bringing him salmon tartar. On the first bite he experienced a severe allergic reaction and ended up in a coma for several days in the hospital. Now this waiter is being charged with criminal negligence. According to the client he said the light was dim was not able to tell the difference from a visual inspection. There is one important information that was added this client was given a epi pen to treat allergic reactions. He obviously was given one as he suffers from severe deadly allergies however he left his epi pen in the car. Now my point is I think charging this waiter is extreme. He fucked up but so did the client. No one talks about that. Restaurants will now be on guard and there is a possibility they may refuse to serve clients with allergies. Any thoughts or comments.

    http://montrealgazette.com/news/nati...-of-wait-staff
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    I don't think we know enough about the situation yet. Did the waiter write it down? Did he tell the kitchen? If the customer did indeed mention multiple times that he was very allergic to fish and seafood,and the waiter didn't notify anyone of the allergies, then I do believe the waiter is in the wrong. Maybe criminal negligence is a bit extreme, but it's a pretty big deal if nothing was done to prevent it.

    I own a restaurant and I work in the back of the house and front of the house there, and when people tell me they are allergic to something, I always ask if it's anaphylactic or not, because if it is, I might refuse him depending on what he is allergic to. Something that we use a lot of, like sesame seeds or soy sauce, I will mention to the customers that it's everywhere in the kitchen and he will be very limited on the menu. I take allergies very seriously because it can kill people or kill the business. My stress levels go up every time someone says they are allergic to something, because I have to rewash everything, change gloves just for them, and make their dish in a separate area just in case. It's a drag, but I do want to accommodate them.

    As for the customer fucking up, he did fuck up a bit but if this is a respectable restaurant and if everything he said was true, I don't think forgetting his epipen in the car is a a huge fuckup because he would still have to go to the hospital even after using it.

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    Sorry Chump but If I had a deadly food allergy I sure as hell would have my epi pen and I wouldn't trust a waiter as my only line of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Sorry Chump but If I had a deadly food allergy I sure as hell would have my epi pen and I wouldn't trust a waiter as my only line of defense.
    I agree. But trying to see it from the customers point of view, it probably doesn't happen often that he needs to use his epipen, and the one time he left it in the car, he got screwed. It's more of really bad luck on his part. Being served salmon tartar, thats completely on the waiter. It's not even cross-contamination, which is usually what people with allergies are afraid of. This is straight up a huge fuckup. There are 2 sides to every story, so let's see how the investigation goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Sorry Chump but If I had a deadly food allergy I sure as hell would have my epi pen and I wouldn't trust a waiter as my only line of defense.
    Lol For once I agree with you
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLOUD 500 View Post
    Lol For once I agree with you
    Hey what do ya know.

    I also think you have good taste in woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Hey what do ya know.

    I also think you have good taste in woman.
    it takes food and women to reunite men

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    Yes, and Cloud500 is a nice person and a lot of fun at parties. We just see things a little differently. But we are all more alike than we are different. Sometimes we forget that.

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    How can you not know the difference between beef tartare and salmon tartare by just looking at it and smelling it?

    By the way funny story but at the first of two Euphoria mini parties I staged with friends I ordered beef tartare at Queen Elizabeth Fairmount and it sickened me. Not allergic reaction I just couldn't digest it and had a violent nausea. I excused myself from the party and the 4 girls were freaked because they thought something was wrong (and there was- with my stomach!). The truth is I was dry heaving in the mezzanine restroom. After 6-8 dry heaves and no puke I went back to the party and my friend made me drink ginger ale which conquered the nausea and I was good for rest of party. One of the girls later told me he told them the reason I left the party was I was "overcome by emotion." I later said to my friend "dude, you kidding me? Overcome with emotion?" He said "hey I couldn't tell the girls you are barfing in the men's room." LOL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver View Post
    How can you not know the difference between beef tartare and salmon tartare by just looking at it and smelling it?

    By the way funny story but at the first of two Euphoria mini parties I staged with friends I ordered beef tartare at Queen Elizabeth Fairmount and it sickened me. Not allergic reaction I just couldn't digest it and had a violent nausea. I excused myself from the party and the 4 girls were freaked because they thought something was wrong (and there was- with my stomach!). The truth is I was dry heaving in the mezzanine restroom. After 6-8 dry heaves and no puke I went back to the party and my friend made me drink ginger ale which conquered the nausea and I was good for rest of party. One of the girls later told me he told them the reason I left the party was I was "overcome by emotion." I later said to my friend "dude, you kidding me? Overcome with emotion?" He said "hey I couldn't tell the girls you are barfing in the men's room." LOL!!!!
    lol did you ever eat tartar before? I know the first time I tried it, I instantly felt it in my stomach. It went in one end and straight out the other end. I still love me some raw meat, but I had not gotten used to it yet. No nausea though.

    As for not knowing the difference between beef and salmon tartar, maybe he was drunk and just stuffed it in his mouth? Tartars usually don't have a strong aroma so I guess he didn't pay attention. He also mentioned the lighting was dim so they both look the same color.

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    Chump to answer your question that was my first and last experience with beef tartare. It's not as popular on restaurant menus in the USA as in Canada, so I figured I would try it. It's not typically on hotel restaurant menus here in the USA so it was like "hey I will make like a local native tonight." Just a bad decision. The lesson learned is never ever try a new food immediately before an escort mini party for which you have paid a substantial sum of money.

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    Hehe I've made that mistake before. But you should definitely try it again one day! I actually prefer beef carpaccio since it's not as intense, and I feel safer eating it.

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    In some states there is a law against serving eggs sunny side up because of health concerns of salmonella. Raw meat can be contaminated with fecal bacteria such as e-coli. I would never eat steak tartar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungry101 View Post
    Sorry Chump but If I had a deadly food allergy I sure as hell would have my epi pen
    I carried one for 2 years..it was always within arm's reach

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    Did your allergies go away???

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