Je ne connais pas la liste des équipes de Karlsson, mais je sais que Bergevin a encore au-dessus de dix millions à dépenser.
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A cause des impots et le dollar Canadien les equipes Canadiennes (et specialement celles du Quebec) doivent souvent surpayer pour attirer des agents libres et re-signer leurs joueurs.
C'est vrai, je pense que la Ligue devrait se pencher sur cette réalité.
C'est ce qui fait que les dés sont pipés aujourd'hui pour plusieurs en faveur ou en la défaveur d'équipes, cela principalement au Canada mais aussi au ÉU, dans des états avec de grandes différences de taux d'imposition.
Tu as raison. En ce moment je penses pas que le CH ou Ottawa serait capable de signer un top vrai top 5. Ces deux equipes allent nul-part en plus de la pression de jouer a Montreal (et les medias).
C'est incroyable venir d'apprendre que Weber avait subi une operation au genou il y quelques semaines. Le manque de transparence de Bergevin et les Canadiens est du jamais vu! Bergevin aurait pu en parler durant sa conference de presse le 1er juillet dernier. Mais non!
Pourquoi le cacher?? On fini par savoir tout quand meme!
Pour ne pas que les autres sachent à quel point on est dans la chnout et abusent de la situation en demandant des $$$ en plus. C'est un jeu de poker, et mieux vaut ne pas dévoiler son jeu, surtout si on vient de perdre un as...
Semblerait, d'après ce que son patron Geoff M, dit de lui; que Michel B travaille 15heures par jour...
Peut être est-il payé à l'heure... :sleep:
J'attends toujours de voir les résultats palpables,
on the ice,
de tant d'heures travaillées.
Peut être est-il payé à l'heure... :sleep:
J'attends toujours de voir les résultats palpables,
on the ice,
de tant d'heures travaillées.
Bad contract if you ask me. Danault will be badly overpaid in my opinion. He's a fourth line player on half the teams in the league. If i were the GM i would have given him $2 to $2.5 million per year, max.
To be fair to Bergevin, isn’t he forced to overpay to keep guys because of the very high taxes in Quebec as compared to every single other team in the NHL? These hockey players are rich dudes making 7 figures a year and they don’t want to pay the high taxes, so Bergevin is forced to pay more money than other GMs have to, correct?
Or is there a tax exemption for being a Montreal Canadiens hockey player that I don’t know about which Bergevin got pushed through the Quebec legislature?
Or is there a tax exemption for being a Montreal Canadiens hockey player that I don’t know about which Bergevin got pushed through the Quebec legislature?
One thing Bergevin isn't seeing is the DOOR. Or else he wouldn't be making these types of questionable moves. Starting with the nobody he picked up 3rd overall in the draft. Nothing against the kid and he may likely be worth the risk. But YOU DON'T TAKE SUCH A RISK WITH THE THIRD OVERALL PICK IN AN NHL DRAFT!!!!
Quelques espoirs des Canadiens invités à participer à la «Vitrine du Mondial junior» à la fin du mois :
Josh Brook - CAN
Ryan Poehling - É-U
Cayden Primeau - É-U
Jacob Olofsson - SUE
Jesperi Kotkaniemi - FIN
Jesse Ylönen - FIN#Habs
pensons long terme...
Josh Brook - CAN
Ryan Poehling - É-U
Cayden Primeau - É-U
Jacob Olofsson - SUE
Jesperi Kotkaniemi - FIN
Jesse Ylönen - FIN#Habs
pensons long terme...
Où est la relève québécoise?
Comment est-ce que le ti-cul de Rouyn-Noranda, de Magog, de Victoriaville, de Matane ou de n'importe quel autre village du Québec puisse-t-il espérer percer dans la NHL si l'équipe de sa province ne fait même pas l'effort de mettre en valeur des talents québécois dans la "Vitrine du Mondial junior"?
Où est la fierté de la Sainte-Flanelle?
Comment est-ce que le ti-cul de Rouyn-Noranda, de Magog, de Victoriaville, de Matane ou de n'importe quel autre village du Québec puisse-t-il espérer percer dans la NHL si l'équipe de sa province ne fait même pas l'effort de mettre en valeur des talents québécois dans la "Vitrine du Mondial junior"?
Où est la fierté de la Sainte-Flanelle?
T'as raison qu'ils ne font pas beaucoup pour le talent local, j'espère que l'arrivée de Joël Bouchard va changer ça.
Mais la vitrine Mondiale ce n'est pas le Ch qui choisit les joueurs dans la dite vitrine...
Mais la vitrine Mondiale ce n'est pas le Ch qui choisit les joueurs dans la dite vitrine...
Here are a few ideas to lift the Habs from the gutter
Montreal Canadiens management needs to stop living in the past, add a president of hockey operations, and stop worrying about language.
by Brendan Kelly, Montreal Gazette
After 25 years of underachieving, maybe the time has to come to radically change the way the Montreal Canadiens are managed.
Given that I and most other fans are not keen to match the Toronto Maple Leafs’ stunning record of 50 years of failure, I’ve decided to make a few modest proposals that would help pull this once-storied franchise out of the gutter.
The most important thing is that Habs executives must learn to live in the present and not in the past. You might think the idea to be obvious, but the reality is that for a quarter century, successive owners and managers have spent way too much of their energy looking back at the glories of years past and have often built their business model around selling nostalgia to fans.
This is not a minor point. Set up a Canadiens museum in the 1909 Taverne Moderne if you want, but the folks running the team need to realize Montreal is only one of 31 National Hockey League teams and has not been in the elite top third since Patrick Roy left town. When Canadiens president Ronald Corey hired Réjean Houle as GM and Mario Tremblay as coach back in 1995 — one of the dumbest decisions in the history of the team — there was a lot of boasting about how the management and coaching team had won some 20 Stanley Cups.
And we all know how that worked out. In other words, it is idiotic to hire old Habs legends and assume the magic of their hockey-playing lives will rub off on your team.
But more importantly, management has to stop thinking this is the greatest team in hockey, akin to Manchester United or Barcelona. Man U and Barcelona don’t trade on their past victories, they fight to win their respective leagues every year.
Canadiens owners and senior executives also have to stop worrying about language. Hire the best GM, the best coach and the best players available and if they’re all Finnish, then they’re all Finnish. Like most people, I am happy to see Dominique Ducharme and Joël Bouchard arrive in the Habs’ coaching ranks, but I am not convinced that Bergevin would have hired two non-franco coaches with the same pedigree. And it’s just silly to insist the GM speak French. Bergevin speaks to the media three or four times a year, so the GM’s grasp of the language of Drouin is not of paramount importance.
Team management also has to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. The people running hockey operations have to start following what’s happening in hockey in 2018, not 1978. That means using analytics to the maximum, realizing that today’s NHL is all about speed and skill, and once and for all ditching the antiquated notion that the most important factor in winning is some nebulous notion of character. Earth to the executive suites of the Canadiens — attitude isn’t everything. Skill is. Get a new T-shirt!
Let’s move from theory to practice. What needs to be done tout de suite is that Molson needs to create a coherent management structure, something they haven’t had over the past 25 years of mediocrity. I believe Molson could be an excellent president. He’s passionate about the team and Quebec, is fluently bilingual, and is only too happy to get out there and talk to fans in the streets, arenas, and coffee shops of the province.
But there has to be a president of hockey operations between him and the general manager and that person has to be someone who’s already had success in Gary Bettman’s league. We tried training someone on the job with Bergevin and … well let’s just be polite and say it hasn’t worked out so well.
Then the president, president of hockey operations and the GM need to sit down together and hash out a plan. That might seem obvious, but I’d argue the Canadiens haven’t had a coherent long-term plan since Sam Pollock left the building in 1978. And as I mentioned last week in this space, it’s abundantly clear that Molson and Bergevin don’t have anything even resembling a plan.
Last but not least, stop treating your fans like they’re irritating mosquitos you have to put up with on your summer vacation. This is our team, not yours. The Montreal Canadiens might be a private business on paper, but in the real world it’s actually a sacred trust and it’s time for successive owners to stop treating it like a private plaything.
Yes transparency is the way to go, but it’s not just about words, it’s about actions. Formulate a strategy, tell us what it is and then stick to it through thick and thin.
A few ideas to lift the habs from the gutter
This is a very good article & i totally agree with Mr. Kelly.
Montreal Canadiens management needs to stop living in the past, add a president of hockey operations, and stop worrying about language.
by Brendan Kelly, Montreal Gazette
After 25 years of underachieving, maybe the time has to come to radically change the way the Montreal Canadiens are managed.
Given that I and most other fans are not keen to match the Toronto Maple Leafs’ stunning record of 50 years of failure, I’ve decided to make a few modest proposals that would help pull this once-storied franchise out of the gutter.
The most important thing is that Habs executives must learn to live in the present and not in the past. You might think the idea to be obvious, but the reality is that for a quarter century, successive owners and managers have spent way too much of their energy looking back at the glories of years past and have often built their business model around selling nostalgia to fans.
This is not a minor point. Set up a Canadiens museum in the 1909 Taverne Moderne if you want, but the folks running the team need to realize Montreal is only one of 31 National Hockey League teams and has not been in the elite top third since Patrick Roy left town. When Canadiens president Ronald Corey hired Réjean Houle as GM and Mario Tremblay as coach back in 1995 — one of the dumbest decisions in the history of the team — there was a lot of boasting about how the management and coaching team had won some 20 Stanley Cups.
And we all know how that worked out. In other words, it is idiotic to hire old Habs legends and assume the magic of their hockey-playing lives will rub off on your team.
But more importantly, management has to stop thinking this is the greatest team in hockey, akin to Manchester United or Barcelona. Man U and Barcelona don’t trade on their past victories, they fight to win their respective leagues every year.
Canadiens owners and senior executives also have to stop worrying about language. Hire the best GM, the best coach and the best players available and if they’re all Finnish, then they’re all Finnish. Like most people, I am happy to see Dominique Ducharme and Joël Bouchard arrive in the Habs’ coaching ranks, but I am not convinced that Bergevin would have hired two non-franco coaches with the same pedigree. And it’s just silly to insist the GM speak French. Bergevin speaks to the media three or four times a year, so the GM’s grasp of the language of Drouin is not of paramount importance.
Team management also has to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. The people running hockey operations have to start following what’s happening in hockey in 2018, not 1978. That means using analytics to the maximum, realizing that today’s NHL is all about speed and skill, and once and for all ditching the antiquated notion that the most important factor in winning is some nebulous notion of character. Earth to the executive suites of the Canadiens — attitude isn’t everything. Skill is. Get a new T-shirt!
Let’s move from theory to practice. What needs to be done tout de suite is that Molson needs to create a coherent management structure, something they haven’t had over the past 25 years of mediocrity. I believe Molson could be an excellent president. He’s passionate about the team and Quebec, is fluently bilingual, and is only too happy to get out there and talk to fans in the streets, arenas, and coffee shops of the province.
But there has to be a president of hockey operations between him and the general manager and that person has to be someone who’s already had success in Gary Bettman’s league. We tried training someone on the job with Bergevin and … well let’s just be polite and say it hasn’t worked out so well.
Then the president, president of hockey operations and the GM need to sit down together and hash out a plan. That might seem obvious, but I’d argue the Canadiens haven’t had a coherent long-term plan since Sam Pollock left the building in 1978. And as I mentioned last week in this space, it’s abundantly clear that Molson and Bergevin don’t have anything even resembling a plan.
Last but not least, stop treating your fans like they’re irritating mosquitos you have to put up with on your summer vacation. This is our team, not yours. The Montreal Canadiens might be a private business on paper, but in the real world it’s actually a sacred trust and it’s time for successive owners to stop treating it like a private plaything.
Yes transparency is the way to go, but it’s not just about words, it’s about actions. Formulate a strategy, tell us what it is and then stick to it through thick and thin.
A few ideas to lift the habs from the gutter
This is a very good article & i totally agree with Mr. Kelly.
Ouin ouin ouin...pas facile les relations MAX et PERDGEVIN....on a pu le constater encore lors du tournoi de golf de Max.....Perdgevin et Molson étaient là par pure obligation et auraient préféré être à mille lieux de là........se sont à peine regardé et serré la main.....beau début de saison en perspective.....MAIS j'ai quand
même bien hâte que la saison commence.
même bien hâte que la saison commence.
Wow.....quel réveil......Pacioretti échangé à Vegas......pour Tatar, forward prospect Nick Suzuki and a second-round pick in 2019......un échange était inévitable.....c'est fait.....Perdgevin a t-il obtenu le max???......selon certains analystes DANS LES CIRCONSTANCES.....OUI......à suivre....Bon Lundi:fat:
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