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Thread: What the fuck is wrong with Team Canada (mens hockey)?

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    Angry What the fuck is wrong with Team Canada (mens hockey)?

    Shutout in two games and loosing to a Swiss team with only a few NHLers on it is unacceptable Canada seems to have trouble with Finlands speed, D-Men like Pronger and Blake are too slow and better suited to the old NHL style. Forget about gold, if they don't get their shit together tout de suite they won't have any sort of medal! Maybe Gretzky should have gone with some younger guys like Crosby, Spezza and Staal?

    Good luck to the women tomorrow against Sweden for the gold - maybe that will inspire the mens team
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    I think it's going to be a lesson for Canada if they dont suit up quickly and don't stop taking the most stupid penalties at the worst times.

    Maybe it's a blessing in disguise? Then, we'll be ready with more speedy guys and young players for BC in 2010....that's when Spezza, Crosby, Phaneuf and the rest will come while others might retired or never be chose again.

    The days of Pronger, Blake, Sakic will be done after these Olympics. I feel for Sakic though, he's one of the few that tries out there.

    Why is St-Louis and Doan on the team? and Draper is not really useful for open ice hockey that the Europeans play

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    PJ Stock said something on the ''Stock Exchange'' last week that somewhat surprised and really disappointed me. He said that the guys who get chosen to go to the Olympics in general view the whole process as a pain in the ass, since they don't get to take a couple of weeks off like the rest of their NHL buddies and do things like going on vacation or partying the nights away. Coming from anyone else other than PJ, I would have taken it with a grain of salt, but since it came from PJ, I figure the guy must know what he's talking about as he still has close friends among active HNHL players.

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    Expectations were too high...

    Guys and gals,

    We all thought this was one of the most incredible teams to ever be assembled in Team Canada's history (at least I did). Our expectations were that they would steamroll through the competion. Well, quite often things do not turn out the way you expect....we all know about that.

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    Gambling...

    Maybe it is the New Jersey gambling inquiry. If you look at the timing and the people named...

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Gonad
    Guys and gals,

    We all thought this was one of the most incredible teams to ever be assembled in Team Canada's history (at least I did). Our expectations were that they would steamroll through the competion. Well, quite often things do not turn out the way you expect....we all know about that.

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    Yeah but loosing vs Switzerland is totally pathetic... against finland I can 'understand' but millionnaire loosing vs a bunch of sheep farmer it's a bit ridiculous. Mark Streit look like a super star in that game and he had difficulties to make line up with Montreal Canadiens every game. I think it's a good leason for all the canadian organisation they took all their 'friends' instead of taking thoses some guys that supposed to be there....

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    Patience !

    Sakic said it all yesterday - he referred to the game against Czech Rep. as a final tune-up before the medal round starts. These games are meaningless (mostly). Remeber Nagano when Canada cruised through the 1st round without any real opposition only to get suffocated by the Czechs ?

    So - Patience everyone! Salt Lake wasn't much better than this after 4 games. The big boys (Thronton, Nash, Bertuzzi, etc) will start BANGING soon and we'll see what the team is really made of.

    On the bright side - at least José T isn't involved - HAHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gohabsgo
    D-Men like Pronger and Blake are too slow and better suited to the old NHL style. Maybe Gretzky should have gone with some younger guys like Crosby, Spezza and Staal?
    I've been saying this since the team was first chosen. How could not name at least 2 of these 3 players considering the season they've been having? Add Adam Foote to the list of slow-footed defencemen. Good thing Jovanovski got injured a few weeks ago, or else you'd have a 4th turtle playing defense. Where is Dan Boyle? Too bad Niedermayer opted to get surgery done...his presence is dearly missed.

    As for Draper, if he's not on the team, who else is going to kill off all the stupid penalites (ex-Pronger) they been taking so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by femaleluver2
    PJ Stock said something on the ''Stock Exchange'' last week that somewhat surprised and really disappointed me. He said that the guys who get chosen to go to the Olympics in general view the whole process as a pain in the ass, since they don't get to take a couple of weeks off like the rest of their NHL buddies and do things like going on vacation or partying the nights away.l
    PJ's full of shit. The large majority of players would nearly get their arm chopped off in order to be at the Olympics. It's possible he's been hanging out with too many players from Team USA, though. They've always been a different bunch. Remember the time when they trashed their rooms at the Olympic village not that long ago? Players are also not obligated to accept the invitation to the team....if they don't want to participate, there are a couple of dozen other players who would only be happy to take up their spot. Who knows, maybe PJ got the Olympics mixed up with the All-Star game. I agree most players feel the way he's described when it comes time for the All-Star game weekend, which, in my opinion, is a joke and should be abolished unless they change the format.

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    I understand your point Doc, but consider this: There still must be a lot of pressure for an all-star, like Sakic or Lemieux, to participate in the Olympics even if he doesn't feel fully commited. They know that soon enough people will start criticizing their decision and labelling them as unpatriotic. What's more, NHL all-stars will always have something pretty good to fall back on once the games are over, which is not necessarily the case for the ''sheep farmers''.

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    Can't say I know much about hockey...but a team is not merely an assembly of talented players.
    I take a TEAM of mediocre players over a team full of superstars any time.

    Most of those guys just don't play together enough. The USA and Canada just don't treat the Olympics(or other international events) with the same seriousness as most other countries do.
    The olympics is just not something you do, to fill the allstar break...

    Well they pay the price now.

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    It's all about chemisty and right now Team Canada has none. Replacing Bertuzzi with Spezza will not bring chemistry, Team Canada will either find theirs and win or they won't - that type of thing happens in these short tournements.

    There is no shortage of effort or talent on this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spin
    It's all about chemisty and right now Team Canada has none. Replacing Bertuzzi with Spezza will not bring chemistry, Team Canada will either find theirs and win or they won't - that type of thing happens in these short tournements.

    There is no shortage of effort or talent on this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by langeweile
    A team is not merely an assembly of talented players.
    I take a TEAM of mediocre players over a team full of superstars any time.
    Which is why i was kind of cheering for Switzerland the other day, when they beat Canada 2-0. Why? Well, for one thing, the game didn't mean anything to Canada in the standings. It would serve as a good wake-up call to them for the upcoming games. Second, this game alone was great for hockey....it will do for Switzerland what the 1980 USA upset over the Soviet Union at the Olympics (Miracle on Ice) did for US hockey. Actually, i think this was a bigger upset than the one in 1980.

    I'm presently watching the Canada/Sweden women's hockey gold medal game, and i'm not to certain players such as Hayley Wickenheiser, Sherry Piper and Cassey Campbell wouldn't do any better than the likes of lead-footed Adam Foote, Chris Pronger and Bertuzzi. At least, they would be more disciplined and they can skate!

    On a more serious note, the Canadian team hasn't played together in nearly two years and you'll see a marked improvement in the upcoming games. You have to play more than a few games together in order to get the chemistry going. I'm not worried at all....when the going will get tough, the tough will get going, as they say. I still predict a gold medal for the Canadian men's hockey team.

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    WHat's wrong with them???? A bunch of spoiled millionaires proving they can't play as a team because they always play for themselves? Fuck 'em all, usless idiots.

    You want a team? Stick with the women as they play with heart and for the love of the game. WAY TO GO LADIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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