Female Teachers That Have Been Caught Sleeping with Students

The Maclean's piece is good, too.

The general rules on less sensationalistic reporting up here are nice to have, but I fear they are being eroded over time.

For the moment they still exist. I remember during the Parliament Hill shooting, the difference between US and Canadian live coverage was pretty amazing.

Very interesting reading Patron, thanks for this.

It still leaves me thinking. As adults, and as teenagers, there are a few relationships that we consider toxic after the fact, and we regret them. I can recall a few high school friends I would have rather avoided had I known they were to backstab me the way they did. I learned. The same goes with our sexual experiences: some good, some bad, some regrettable. When does this become criminal? Because it fucks up our subsequent relationships? How many of you had wives/partners who fucked up their subsequent relationships? Are they in prison for this? (maybe some of them should be, but that's another story....)

I guess what kills me is the black and white, no nuances and no judgement. If you're a boss having sex with your secretary, well, you're just a boss fucking his secretary. If the secretary is being forced, manipulated or coerced in any kind of way that's an aggression and I agree with being severe with this, and the same goes for teens. But if an adult "in a position of trust or authority" had any type of relationship with his/her student, they are a sexual predator. That's a quite strong word. A teenager is unable to consent, the teachers are sexual predators. There is no nuance. Not to say they are not to blame for their poor judgement, not to say they should not receive an administrative sanction or even be fired. But criminals? Being imprisoned? Remember an inmate costs $110K/year in this country.

Do we need to stop all teacher/student interactions, I'm not sure. Will high prison or penalties stop it? Ask the Chinese, for e.g., who punish drug smuggling with death penalty. Doesn't stop smuggling, they're one of the major sources of Cocaine in the world... Do imprisoning teachers change anything? I doubt it. Insanity is keep repeating the same thing expecting different results, so maybe we ought to try something different.

Very interesting and relevant research Patron.

Adults should for sure not have sex with anyone below 12. And probably not with anyone below 14. And likely not at 16 and hopefully not at 17. I can however conceive that a 17yo or even 16yo boy or girl is fully capable of initiating a seduction game and when it's the case, treating them like innocent victims is naive. Furthermore, legislation too lenient towards teens open the door to then blackmailing their teachers, and this also happens:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8284288/Teachers-who-were-wrongly-accused.html

People want to believe their children are white and pure, they want to believe all women are all compassionate and caring and all men are violent predators. Really is so much more complex that that...

Hungry101, I get it. About 30 years ago, I was working in a college. I heard it all at the cafeteria from the teachers. Some were all over this girl and that other one. Not all of them were like this, but enough to make you puke and they were hanging out with each other. Many of them would show up in public events (pubs, concerts) holding hands with their students. I've seen with my own eyes some girls making the "I'll do anything to get a good mark for this course" remark, insisting on the anything. I was disgusted, so much that I quit. But they were all over 18 years old. Well, most of them.... That was years before the legislation. Things are so very much different today, right?

Again, I don't approve these behaviors, far from it. But they should be similar to when a psychologist goes out with their patient for example. A professional malpractice. But criminal? Not sure.

We live in the 21st. century (PC World), 50 years ago if a females teacher was having sex with a teen boy it would have been seen as a benefit to the boy or swept under a rug.

In the 50s and 60s sixteen year old girls getting married in the back woods of Quebec was not so uncommon. Many girls married with no knowledge of sexuality. Today the average 10 year old has surfed porn and are curious. How many 14-19 year olds would refuse sex from a teacher.

This case is so ridiculous that I`m sure the school will cave and re-instate her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAs4UeAbc74

BTW she just may be the prettiest teacher that we`ve seen on this thread. In my opinion she looks like Lia from Vog.

I wish he sent the pic to me. She is really hot and I would love to see her tits.

Her attorney did a great job dressing her up conservatively for the presser with a cross hanging around her neck. Their argument that her tits are no more offensive than a male’s bare boobs is amusingly ironic because I would probably be more deeply offended getting a topless selfie of a male teacher than of her. I can think of a few of my male teachers whose topless selfies would likely have shocked and appalled me. Lauren’s would not have had that effect.

We live in different times. I remember in my youth ( early 70s ) of a movie that was out at the time, The summer of 42. This was a movie about a 15 year old boy that meets a woman that was alone because her husband was away at war. They have a sexual relationship. The story was published in 1928 and made into a movie in 1970. This was an acceptable subject matter at the time. Today you can not put out a book or make a movie with this subject matter, but it was acceptable in the 50 years ago.

Is Tiger Text a thing people use? I associate it with drug companies trying to keep things from the FDA. I would have thought Signal is the "have it vanish" app of choice.

Patron said:

Didn’t the little bastard she had sex with get an erection? How is a young man sexually abused when he had enough of an erection to come inside her?

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Lmao!

Indeed! Although I must admit that at 13yo, that's quite young and probably deserve some punishment. However in determining the sentence there is no considetation whatsoever of the actual damage the young men suffered. There's a big between being physically forced or psychologically abused (e.g blackmailed) and being offered an opportunity because your teacher likes you. And in any case I'm almost certain having your sex life being dissected publicly in trial and in the news is more damaging at 14yo than the abuse itself.

I think the young lads that have sex with their teachers ( older women ) are more stigmatized and traumatized when they are hauled out into the light of day for all to see.

Patron said:

Didn’t the little bastard she had sex with get an erection? How is a young man sexually abused when he had enough of an erection to come inside her?

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Getting an erection has never been nor should it ever be a deciding factor in whether or not a boy/man has been sexually abused. Sexual abuse and rape come down to two things (was the sex act consentual and is the person old enough to consent). A 13 year old brain is not developed enough to be considered able to consent. He can’t forsee the consequences nor take the responsibility for his actions. Lets also keep in mind that as a 13 year old all it takes is a light breeze to give you an erection so I don’t think it too much for this teacher to get him hard regardless of whether or not he wanted it.

Lets also keep in mind that many people who have been sexually abused felt pleasure from it. Many women who have been raped have also orgasm during it. If this 13 year old boy was a 13 year old girl I doubt your position on this would be the same. Even if the 13 year old girl was madly in love with the teacher, and was a willing participant of the sex. The double standards are very evident and it’s a shame because don’t we all deserve equal treatment under the law? Just because our male biology betrays us doesn’t mean he wasn’t abused regardless of how much pleasure this 13 year old felt while inside the part of the body designed to make a man cum.

At the very least she should be in jail for pedophilia. Which no matter how you spin it, an adult having sex with a minor regardless of gender is pedophilia, and should not be tolerated. It’s disgusting.