Canadian Prostitution laws based on Scandinavian Model-License to Rob

azzaro · Jan 23, 2017

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It is a huge mistake basing Canadian prostitution laws on the Scandinavian model. In Scandinavia, women rule in politics and law making. Canadian vs Scandinavian society in terms of sex/socializing is very different. In most of Scandinavia women truly exercise their "equal gender" status and seek out sexual partners without any sort of guilt or fear. They also welcome sexual advances and feel comfortable accepting or rejecting sexual advances from men.

Since women in Scandinavia initiate sexual advances too, men feel comfortable in almost all situations involving sexual advances. Canadian women on the other hand do not act that way. Compared to Scandinavian women they can pretty much be classified as "prudes". Hundreds of examples of websites catering to singles in Canada make money OFF OF this type of women's behavior in Canada. Men account for 90% and above of the paid and unpaid websites like these.

Furthermore, escorts in Canada now have a license to rob clients since it is illegal to pay for but not illegal to advertise escort services. Thousands of con artist escorts and their criminal accomplices place false ads and rob clients when clients go to meet the escorts.

This is a Scandinavian (Danish) commercial .. you be the judge ...about sexual openness in Scandinavia...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dva...outube.com/watch?v=dvankC8lzBI&has_verified=1

blkone · Jan 24, 2017

I think your post actually makes the Scandinavian model reasonable.

I saw your "quotes" on the equal gender thing, your quip on the women who do not fear their sexuality etc.

How is any of what you wrote a bad thing?

So... women should live in constant fear????

azzaro · Jan 24, 2017

Patron said:
Azzaro, you do a lot of posts where you stereotype by nationality and/or country. Stereotypes are not always accurate, but even if they are, the issues you raise are more economic ones than cultural.

There are extremely few instances of cash and dash on this board. A Reviewed (or just a merb advertised) independent provider, or a provider who works for a reputable agency, completely destroys her business by robbing people. Review boards like this keep it from happening, and the once in a blue moon times it does happen with an agency, it is made right.

In the criminalized U.S. system, which you often deride, there is also no cash and dash in the relatively expensive market reviewed on TER and ECCIE. But read usasexguide a while, particularly in smaller cities where drugs are a big part of the scene, and you will find numerous reports of cash and dash, and even true armed robberies, when guys see low-priced providers, especially from the old Backpage ads.

Those things can't be reported to the police in either a fully criminalized system or the Nordic model, but I am highly skeptical that the police would be interested in what is essentially a contract dispute in a fully decriminalized system. They would just tell you to pick a better hooker next time.

Economics is always the way to study an issue. Spending the requisite amount to see a good sex worker is the solution.

Even Scandanavia can be studied through economics. Much like the U.S., when you read the reviews and study the policing, good service is available from higher priced call girls who know how to be discreet. There are plenty of ads and reviews, although the services are generally not described as being as good as what is available in other parts of Europre - it is relatively more difficult to get BBBJs in Scandanavian countries. But most of the true difficulties come from the lower-priced end of the market.

Scandanavian guys have an easier solution than most poor guys in North America in that they can travel to nearby countries where the lower-priced commercial sex is more available without rip-offs and heavy-handed policing. You are correct that culturally the Scandanavians are not anti-sex, they are just anti-pristitution particularly at the lower-priced levels. But the issues, and the solutions, are economic ones, not legal ones.

I agree with you 99.9%. I should not generalize. My apologies. I usually generalize North American vs European openness which is what I am guilty of. But as a matter of fact, there is a huge epidemic of "cash and dash" in the Ontario market. I do agree that one should stick with reputable providers and agencies, but they only account for less than a fourth of the ads and well...some of those other 75% of the ads..look very enticing (even though a large majority of them have fake pics and a "robbery motive" behind them). I was robbed twice in the past 6 months.

azzaro · Jan 24, 2017

blkone said:
I think your post actually makes the Scandinavian model reasonable.

I saw your "quotes" on the equal gender thing, your quip on the women who do not fear their sexuality etc.

How is any of what you wrote a bad thing?

So... women should live in constant fear????

The model is "illegal to pay, not to advertise". The rest of my post is describing the Scandinavian society and its openness towards sex. In Scandinavia women rule (politics). They also rule in making sexual advances. Cheers !!

jalimon · Jan 24, 2017

I agree with you Patron. You can include The Netherland and Austria as country that are closed in their tribe.

I do not think there has been a scientific study on the mater yet but it should be interesting to study why Scandinavian country now rank as the worst in Europe in regards to violence towards women? Is there a correlation since the implementation of the "nordic model"?

Cheers,

jalimon · Jan 24, 2017

Patron said:
The first answer, which comes from a Scandanavian, is probably correct. They have a higher report level, not a higher occurrence level, and the media distorts that crucial distinction to dumb down and sensationalize the news

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-there-such-a-high-incidence-of-domestic-violence-in-Nordic-countries

I see thanks for the precision. When you think about it, it makes sense I should have seen that.

Cheers,

p.s. An Islamic woman will certainly not report anything out of fear of being killed...

gugu · Jan 24, 2017

Measurement of sexual violence is a complexe matter. Police statistics are by far the most reliable, but since we suspect a lot of cases are not reported to the police, we use representative samples and ask people, usually only women, about their victimisation. These studies are often ideologically driven and try to get as high victimisation as possible. So they don't ask women if they were ever raped. They ask about all sorts of situations going from street harassment to violent sexual agressions and the researchers determine whether the women were victim or not. Since there is no standard questionnaire, international comparaisons are very hard to make. Higher incidence in Sweden is probably due to a combination of many factors: measurement methods, culture, alcool consumption, level of immigration and... the prostitution law. The economist Scott Cunningham found a surprising high correlation between rape ans STD on one side, and prostitution law in the state of Rhode Islands in the USA. Unfortunately, his study could hardly be reproduced elsewhere.

Siocnarf · Jan 24, 2017

I can live with their silly Nordic model, so long as they don't try to import their Gender-Equal Snow Removal Policies.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gender-equal-snow-removal-procedures-left-stockholm-paralyzed

hungry101 · Jan 24, 2017

Siocnarf said:
I can live with their silly Nordic model, so long as they don't try to import their Gender-Equal Snow Removal Policies.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gender-equal-snow-removal-procedures-left-stockholm-paralyzed

Good article. This silliness is leading to a reactionary revolution. Donald Trump was elected because of retarded thinking like this. First the UK and now the United States and who is next?

If woman are equal to men in every way, why do we have to plow the sidewalks for them first and why do we need special prostitution laws to protect women? they are equal in every way right? They are putting them in combat infantry roles and even in the Rangers...of course they had to water down all the requirements..but they are equal in every way.

I can't wait for the day when technology allows men to get pregnant and carry a fetus. Finally, we will see true equality...when a man and a woman sleep together and either one has a chance to get pregnant. Then we have arrived.

azzaro · Jan 25, 2017

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I have some great Scandinavian porn films (made with in the past 5 years)...where the Swedish super-hotties are being humped by mostly Swedish studs. But...10% of the Scandinavian hotties are also being humped by the indigenous SAMI tribes guys that live in Scandinavia (population around 100,000). Can share some of these. I have them on a website in the cloud...let me know.

As far as Iceland is concerned, even I was thinking of hopping on a short plane ride from Toronto/Montreal to go get laid in Iceland. Now my hopes are dashed.....LOL.

MattMiller · Sep 10, 2018

Patron, I think it is safe to say that Merbists (myself included) agree that the Swedish Prostitution Model is stupid and nonsensical. But that does not mean that the Swedish are, in your words, "the world’s most disfunctional people". By that logic you can easily deride many other people, since nonsensical public policies, well, every country has them.
The reality is that for most people prostitution is an unimportant issue about which they know next to nothing. This lack of concern and knowledge leads to a situation where small groups of people can drive public policy on an issue. If you surveyed the Canadian adult public, what percent do you think would be able to tell you that prostitution law in Canada has changed recently (C-36)? My guess would be about 10-30%.
The Swedish model is stupid but it tells you very little about Sweden. Did not France adopt it as well? So the French would then be also among the world's most dysfunctional people.

According to the most recent World Happiness Report, Sweden is a a great place to live: It ranks 10 out of 157 countries [see p.9 of the PDF of chapter 2 of the report here (this is p.20 of the report)]:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/happiness-report/2018/CH2-WHR-lr.pdf
Canada ranks 8, the USA ranks 19.

Apropos USA, what about the sanity of their prostitution policy? Well, one could say there policy is driven by religion and this makes it rational (rational being choosing appropriate means to advance ones goals). Sweden is a post-Christian society. Traditional religion plays no role there anymore. But the brand of feminism that is underlying the Swedish Model is as unjustified as Christianity. So one could say that prostitution policy in Sweden, like in the USA, is driven by religion (that is, a world view that is only poorly supported by the facts.)

By the way, Patron, I liked your longer post in the Financial Management thread. (I would even call your words there wise.)

jalimon · Sep 10, 2018

As a society I would rather have c-36, like here in Canada (where we all know it's not overly enforced), then a complete enforced ban like in the US or worse still discussing the right for abortion or same sex mariage!

jalimon · Sep 10, 2018

i am not as rationale as you patron. i see c-36 as a political solution to calm down those against prostitution while at the same time maintaining the activity alive. i suspect many conservative who decided of that law see as much girl as we do

hungry101 · Oct 7, 2018

That is absolutely disgusting. The boys sit around and rub lotion on each other? Is this what they do in Thailand? Is that Why they have so many ladyboys there? Jesus, this is bullshit. Somebody needs to pull a coup d'etat.

I guess we are not so bad with the sexist "Take your daughter to work day." What about the sons? They stay home and knit or something? Masculinity is under attack and I wonder why?

CLOUD 500 · Oct 8, 2018

That is feminists taking things to the extreme. But funny how feminists want equality where it suits them.

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