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I predict that the Red Sox will sweep the Yankees and once again send the Yankees home prematurely proving that all the money they spent to improve the team this season was a big waste.

The Red Sox may just win another World Series. They are THAT good!

What an odd thing to say. Red Sox payroll 228 million ; Yankes 179 million for 2018
Red Sox payroll 209 million; Yankees 209 million for 2017

So the Yankees spent less than in 2017 and the Red Sox spent more.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

Does the truth no longer matter?
 

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That’s correct, the Yankees payroll was significantly reduced from 2017 and only slightly increased from what it was in the beginning of 2018. The fact that their payroll is below $200 million reflects the reality that they have a lot of young cheap guys on the roster. Eventually they will need to be paid, but not for a while.
 

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Well the best team won last night. The Red Sox look like the team to beat. The Yankees were a good test. They seemed to have been playing pretty good at season's end but not good enough to beat the Detroit Red Sox. The Astros are going to be a good test for Boston. I believe the winner of this series will win it all.
 

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Angel Hernandez - How is this guy still a MLB umpire? I am watching MLB network and listening to quotes from Porcello and CC about Angel Hernandez:

CC - "He shouldn’t be anywhere near these playoff games"

CC- Sabathia on Angel Hernandez: “He’s absolutely terrible. He was terrible behind the plate today. He was terrible at first base. It’s amazing how he’s getting jobs umpiring in these playoff games.”

Porcello came back and said "Throw the ball over he plate CC. I thought Angel Hernandez called a good game. You have to put the ball over the white part of the plate and then you get strikes called. That's all I 've got to say about that."

Al Leiter on MLB tonight said he wish he had the nerve to to say what CC Sabathia said about Angel Hernandez. The other hosts asked Al Leiter "Have you ever thought that an umpire was out to get you and Al Leiter said "Yeah. Him [Angel Hernandez]"

The game prior Hernandez had 3 calls reversed at first base.

Last year Ian Kinsler said Hernandez should find another line of work.

If you are into nostalgia here is a link to Angel's most famous gaffe: The HR that he called a double and refused to reverse. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/umps-give-indians-controversial-win-article-1.1339227

Why does MLB keep guys around like Angel Hernandez? He shouldn't be let near a baseball stadium.
 

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Angel Hernandez is one of the worse umpires in major league baseball. Umpires get assigned playoff and world series games based on seniority and competence. Angel was never assigned any playoff or world series games. So he sued major league baseball for discrimination because he is a minority (he was born in cuba). This year he was assigned playoff games. You can figure out the rest.
 

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Ahhhh I forgot this. Affirmative action or reverse racism or just plain racism. There is no place for it in sports or anywhere. Equal Opportunity does not guarantee equal results. They need to fire him. He is incompetent.
 

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The Red Sox may just win another World Series. They are THAT good!
They ARE that good. Unfortunately, so are the Astros. I, for one, would NEVER argue baseball with Joe Posnanski.

"Posnanski: Are the 2018 Red Sox and Astros two of the best baseball teams of all time?

So​ I spoke​ to a business​ communications​ class Thursday morning — no, you​ don’t care,​ but there’s a point​​ here — and one of the students in the class asked me about the Red Sox-Astros series and I said, “This is going to be awesome because, you know, Boston and Houston are two of the greatest teams in baseball history.”

I wish I’d had a camera to record the look on his face when I said the words “two of the greatest teams in baseball history.” It was some combination of disgust, nausea, outrage and that face you make when you’re eating one of those sour candies that are actually much sourer than you were expecting.

But it’s true, anyway: Boston and Houston are two of the greatest teams in baseball history.

And that’s why this series is unlike anything we’ve ever seen before.

I’m going to start off by giving you a few statistics, most uncovered by our stats guru Katie Sharp, that will tell you how absurd this series is. Then we’ll talk a little bit about the emotional part of a series like this.

Let’s start off with most combined victories in a postseason. The record is 212 combined wins; that happened in the 1998 World Series when the 114-win Yankees swept the 98-win Padres. That’s pretty impressive, but let’s be honest: The Yankees are doing most of the work there. No offense to the Padres, who were a good team, but that’s a bit like saying that the Aaron brothers have the most combined homers for siblings, with Tommie contributing 13 to Hank’s 755.

In this series, the Red Sox (108) and Astros (103) combine for 211 wins. That’s the second highest total of all time — and it’s much more evenly distributed. It’s two all-time teams, not just one.

But victories are only one way to look at this. You can also look at wins above replacement. The Astros and Red Sox combined for 114.2 WAR, tied with the 2017 Cleveland-Yankees division series for most ever. But the beauty here is not the combined total, as great as that is. It is the equilibrium. The Astros have 57.1 WAR as a team. The Red Sox also have 57.1 WAR as a team. It’s an amazing series in perfect balance.

Another way to look at quality is to look at Bill James’ Pythagorean theorem, which gives teams a win-loss percentage based on how many runs they score and how many they allow. This might offer a clearer picture of the overall quality of the teams by stripping out some of the luck. Well, this series — thank you, Baseball-Reference founder Sean Forman — will rank eighth all-time in combined Pythagorean win percentage.

Let’s look at those top eight series by Pythagorean Win-Loss percentage:

1. 1942 World Series, Cardinals vs. Yankees (combined 1.394 win-loss percentage)

These two teams had an amazing battle, but this was during World War II when quality was way down.

2. 1906 World Series, White Sox vs. Cubs (1.352)

A classic Deadball matchup.

3. 1939 World Series, Yankees vs. Reds (1.348)

The Reds were good but this is on the list mostly because the 1939 Yankees have an argument for the greatest team in baseball history.

4. 1910 World Series, Athletics vs. Cubs (1.341)

A classic Deadball matchup.

5. 1912 World Series, Reds Sox vs. Giants (1.330)

A classic Deadball matchup.

6. 1909 World Series, Pirates vs. Tigers (1.328)

A classic Deadball matchup.

7. 1953 World Series, Yankees vs. Dodgers (1.313)

Finally, we have a sort-of modern matchup, even if this was 65 years ago. The Casey Stengel Yankees vs. the Boys of Summer Dodgers; it was apparent even in the moment that this was a matchup of two all-time great teams.

8. 2018 ALCS Astros vs. Red Sox (1.310)

And there you have it. By runs scored and allowed, we haven’t had a series like this in most of our lifetimes. And it makes sense: Baseball almost never has two teams as good as the Red Sox and Astros in a single season, and it’s even less likely that they would play in the same league.

This brings up a good point: Yes, the Red Sox and Astros were absurdly successful this year. But how much of that can be attributed to the historic awfulness of the American League? The league was absurdly non-competitive. Three teams lost 100-plus games and two more lost 95-plus games. That means one-third of the league was not just bad, but truly terrible.

You could say that the Red Sox and Astros, while obviously terrific teams, simply built up their win totals on a league that is way down and on teams that were looking toward the future (and not too worried about the present). And you would be right.

That’s when you have to talk about just how good some of these players are.

Houston has two players — Justin Verlander and José Altuve — who I feel pretty confident will go to the Hall of Fame. Altuve is just 28 and has a long way to go, but he’s such a good player in so many ways — a great hitter, hits with power, runs the bases, plays terrific defense — that I think he will get there. Verlander, I think, has already earned his way, and he’s coming off one of his best seasons at age 35.

So that’s two Hall of Famers. Alex Bregman just put up an MVP-type season. It will not be an MVP season this year (we’ll get back to that in a minute), but he led the league in doubles, hit 30 homers, scored 100 runs, drove in 100 runs — that’s MVP stuff, and he’s just 24. Starter Gerrit Cole is terrific. Starter Charlie Morton is terrific. There are more terrific pitchers all over that bullpen. George Springer is terrific. Carlos Correa was hurt and he struggled all year, but he’s just 23 and one of the greatest talents in baseball. On and on and on.

You just don’t see many teams like that.

Then you go across the diamond and you see … another team like that. I mentioned that Bregman’s year was not quite MVP material this season, and that’s because Mookie Betts had an impossibly awesome year, a year so good that you could argue it was as good as Mike Trout’s, something that almost nobody has been able to say the last few years. Betts’ 10.9 Baseball-Reference WAR was the most for any player since Barry Bonds, and the most in the American League since Cal Ripken in 1991.

Betts is just 25 and has so much more to do, but if you asked me to bet, “Will he or won’t he go to the Hall of Fame?” I’m putting all my chips on “will he.”

And the same is true with starter Chris Sale, who is coming off another dominant year in a long series of dominant years.

J.D. Martinez almost won the Triple Crown. Xander Boegarts had a fantastic offensive season. Andrew Benintendi looks like he will be the next great left-field icon in Boston, a proud tradition from Ted Williams to Carl Yastrzemski to Jim Rice to Manny Ramirez. David Price has won a Cy Young. Rick Porcello has won a Cy Young. Craig Kimbrel is one of the most dominant closers ever. Stars everywhere you turn.

This is how you know it’s not just circumstance. These two teams are loaded with generational talents and historically great players. Baseball is played very different than it was when the Babe Ruth Yankees or the Earl Weaver Orioles or the Big Red Machine or even the last 1990s Yankees played. And these two teams play this new brand of baseball with all the strikeouts, defensive shifts, pitching changes and home-run power that you need to win. The only obvious weakness anyone can see is the Red Sox’s somewhat-shaky bullpen.

That doesn’t mean this will be a sure-fire competitive series; you never can tell when it’s best-of-seven. One team gets rolling and it could be over quickly, and without the anticipated tension and joy. But we still should stop for a moment to realize that this is not normal, not typical, not just another series. It’s an all-timer. It really does match up two of the best teams ever. And it could be a classic."

Published today in The Athletic.
 

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What an odd thing to say. Red Sox payroll 228 million ; Yankees 179 million for 2018.
Actually, the did spend way more than the Red Sox. In fact, they spent $284 million for the pleasure of having Giancarlo Stanton strike out 2000 times over the next 10 years.
 

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Great article about the Astros-Sox match-up. I think a fair point was made about the competitiveness of the rest of the AL. We do not have parity in the AL. One reason is teams like Detroit, Kansas City, and the Chicago White Sox dumped their stars. I looked at Detroit's moves and they were salary dumps with the exception of the Avila,Wilson trade to the Cubs we haven't received very good prospects in return. The only thing accomplished was salary relief with a few mediocre prospects to fill minor league rosters in return. Look at the JD Martinez trade to Arizona. He hits 29HRs for AZ down the stretch and we get two guys and a lottery ticket that will never amount to anything. I would pf preferred to watch JD hit those dingers as a Tiger. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-lessons-of-the-j-d-martinez-trade/
https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/projecting-the-prospects-in-the-j-d-martinez-trade/

Just a couple of years prior to this, we traded Summer rentals. See the following trades below:

1 Cespedes to the Mets for Fulmer AL ROY and another fireballer that we traded for J. Wilson.
2. Price to Toronto for Norris and Boyd.

Compare this to the chump change we got for Kinsler, JD Martinez, Justin Upton, and the prospects we received in return for Verlander. I think the trend for the Tigers is to dump salary. In the past there was more parity because teams weren't in such a hurry to dump salary. They didn't make deals like the Tigers made with Cabrera and JV. Also, teams were willing to give up decent prospects for summer rentals.

I guess I am saying that this match-up has something to do with the state of the league....Just a thought.
 

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Boston vs LA - A dream match-up for the ratings one would think. I'm kind of excited. Prediction: Boston in 7
 

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Deservedly so, Jacob DeGrom won the NL Cy Young award yesterday in one of the most dominating seasons a pitcher has ever had..with no run support

A huge plus to end another bad season by my Mets

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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018...cano-mets-edwin-diaz-jay-bruce-prospects.html

Mets acquire Cano and his huge salary in an effort win now. Meanwhile, the shedding of salary for the Mariners continues as they are down $100 MM in salary obligations with recent trades. With this trade, the Mariners save about $20MM/year in salary obligations to Cano and acquire their #2 and #3 prospects. Cano is projected to play 1st base and has a couple of good years left in his bat. Hopefully, this puts the Mets over the top and Smuler can enjoy a pennant and world series run.
 

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I couldn’t believe that the Mariners got the Mets to take on $100 million of Cano’s remaining contract. The Mets are paying $20 million a year for a 36 year old second baseman who has never played first base. The trade is something of a bad contract swap as the Mariners took back two of the Mets’ bad contracts in Bruce and Swarzak. You could say it was two bad contracts for the bigger priced bad contract. These bad contract for bad contract deals are often necessary due to changing priorities. The Mets have a young first baseman named Dominic Smith but he has not developed as hoped.

What the Mets mainly got out of the deal was a good young closer, Diaz. He is the key acquisition in the deal as the Cano contract will quickly go from bad to worse. He has been durable over the course of time but always remember that Father Time is undefeated, and Cano is no spring chicken.
 

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Baseball HOF - Harold Baines?

Is this a joke? There must be at least 100 other former baseball players who are more deserving than Harold Baines. There is nothing in his career that leads you to believe he is a hall of famer. Dewey Evans must be thinking " I gotta be next". Career War for Baines is 38.7. (Career HOF for RF is 72.7) Evans was 67.1 plus he had 8 gold gloves.
How about this for a comparison - Roy White had a 46.8 Career War. Baines never received more than 5% of the HOF vote when he was eligible. What changed? I guess he has a lot of friends on the Veterans Committee.
 

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Before Baines, I would like to see a guy like Mickey Lolich get in. He is the Tigers career leader for strikeouts with 2679 and #5 in K's per 9 innings with 7.1. When you consider he also started the most games in franchise history, that is HOF worthey. No one who was alive at the time will forget the 1968 World Series where Lolich had 3 wins and hit his one and only career HR to boot to lead the Tigers over Cardinals in 7. This included a win in game 7 where he beat the great Bob Gibson with Lolich pitching on 3 days rest. The guy was a machine.

EB - I do not know if Cano will play first. that is speculation because the Mets have a young second basemen McNeil who hit .329 with .852 OPS. The article said that either Cano moves to first or McNeil moves to 3rd and the Mets let Frazier go. Cano can play first. The article says he has about 2 good years left in his bat. I wonder if the Mets would be interested in Miguel Cabrera? They could put Cabrera at 1st, Canoe at 2nd and move Mcneil to third and then hope and pray the old timers can play a full season or two without getting hurt. Cabrera has not been able to last a season in a couple of years and the Tigers have him on the payroll until 2024!!!!
 

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Cano could have 2 more good seasons in him, but they have him for 5 at $20 million per year. McNeil to 3B and Cano at 1B seems likely. I didn’t realize it but the Ms played Cano at 1B some last year. Don’t know how he did. In his prime Cano was a good defensive 2B with one of the strongest throwing arms I have ever seen at that position.
 

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But if they win next year or the year after, it will be worth it. Meanwhile, the Mariners are going the way of the Tigers and the White Sox and dumping salary. They had their window to win and didn't. I don't remember this happening in the golden era of baseball. I don't like it. It's just the way it is and because of this there will be no parody and the rich get richer.
 

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But if they win next year or the year after, it will be worth it. Meanwhile, the Mariners are going the way of the Tigers and the White Sox and dumping salary. They had their window to win and didn't. I don't remember this happening in the golden era of baseball. I don't like it. It's just the way it is and because of this there will be no parody and the rich get richer.

But who are the rich getting richer? These big long term contracts never seem to work out. Cano, Pujols, ARod all left their signing teams eager to get rid of them in the end. The
Tigers did the same thing signing Fielder to a 9 year $214M contract; Cabrera to a 8 yr $240M contract; and Verlander to a 6 yr $162M contract. (Although in Verlander's case the Detroit signing and trade seemed to work out - - - - for the Astros.) I don't know why teams keep signing these guys to these long term contracts. When people talk about Harper and Machado they say, but they are only 26. I think Fielder was still in his 20's when he signed his big contract and Cabrera was about 31 or so. So I don't really classify the teams that sign these big long term contracts as the rich getting richer. I seem them as the dumb getting dumber.
 

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I agree. How many of the big money free agents have paid off? Big Poppy and Justin Verlander are two (Verlander had an oblique tear and it took him two seasons to overcome this). But there are so many more guys like Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera (although I hope Miggy can come back as a DH and play his usually solid 1B). My point is that the big money teams can absorb the risk. Seatle just did what the Tigers did. They could contend next year but chose not to. The Tigers decided to rebuild and the experts say they won as many games this year as they did all of last year but with a much smaller payroll. But the truth is they traded JD Martinez for three weak prospects and JD hit 29 HRs and led the Diamondbacks to a playoff bid. I would have enjoyed those HRs. Collectively, It would have been the 3rd most HRs a Tiger has hit in franchise history. They traded Upton for crap, and Kinsler for more crap. Last year we saw KC trade their best reliever for lackluster crap. I heard that Arizona may have done the same with Goldschmidt.

As far as JD Martinez trade goes, had the Tigers kept him and he hit those 29 HRs down the stretch, we certainly would not have had the first pick in the draft and we would not have landed Casey Mize.
 
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