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Very sad news,the death of a rock'n'roll legend Syd Barrett founding member of Pink Floyd.
He was the influence behind Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You were Here.
Very creative and original character,yet his contribution to the work of Pink Floyd as well as to rock n roll in general was vastly and criminally neglected.
He was the one who gave the band it's name and it's sound.
Hi died at the age of 60.
Shine on you crazy Diamond.
RIP
 

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Syd Barrett was a genius, although he was ultimately replaced by a genius guitarist in David Gilmour who joined before Barrett left in 1968.

Although he inspired Dark Side of The Moon and Wish You Were Here he had nothing to do with the making of those albums having left the band in 1968. The song "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" on the Wish You Were Here Album was specifically written about him.

I personally enjoyed Barrett's music, and it's too bad that drug use effectively terminated his productivity as a musician. I have read that he did major acid (LSD) in the 1960s which can cause brain damage, catatonia, dementia and other symptoms such as what he showed.
 
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death of a legend

i did heard that he did die 3 years ago
but the news just got out

David Gilmour in concert his latest DVD filmed in 2002
he dedicate Shine on you crazy Diamond a song from him to him
and then he say's,
that Syd HAD a a glitter is his eye's
talkin' in passed tents.

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He died last Friday,of a cancer.
He was a recluse since the early 70's.
Very influencial character,Bowie,R.E.M,The Damned,Starnglers,and many others owes him alot for their sound and attitude.
 

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After Syd left, Pink Floyd was never again as good - much more commercially successful (the U2 way - pander to the masses and get mainstream success) but without the genius. "See Emily Play" remains their greatest moment. As for Syd, it was truly sad - his body died at 60 but his mind and soul were gone before he hit 25 - very similar to the Skip Spence (of Jefferson Airplane and Moby Grape) story. Skip was another off-kilter genius who flew too close to the sun. His story was even sadder: violence, mental institutions, and death in his early 50s. Somehow it's not in the grand design for guys like Syd and Skip to be around for long, which is why we instead get saddled with greedy ambitious careerists like Saint Bono and Elvis Costello (who showed HIS true colours back in 79 when he made drunken racist comments about Ray Charles). RIP Syd.
 

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Some things never change

joelcairo said:
After Syd left, Pink Floyd was never again as good - much more commercially successful (the U2 way - pander to the masses and get mainstream success) but without the genius.

Still hating on U2 huh Joel? I must admit that after hearing you insult Bono the way you did it doesn't surprise me to hear you echo the same gibberish about Roger Waters. Congratulations, you have further put yourself on the fringe of musical "taste" by insulting not just one, but two of the greatest songwriters of all time. :rolleyes:

Pray tell, what obscure quotes from so called music critics like yourself will you offer this time in support of your claim that, like Bono, Roger Waters sucks. Better yet, spare me, I'll just take your word for it and immediately trash my entire collection of Floyd. Wish You Were Here, trash, Dark Side of the Moon, trash, The Wall, trash, etc, etc...Happy? Sadly I don't see you as being a happy guy Joel. :( Anyone else care to agree with Joel that Roger Waters sucks?? How about Elvis? While were at it, does anyone here hate John Lennon?

I imagine Rogers upcoming Dark Side of the Moon Tour will have a moving tribute to Sid worked into it. One can only wish that Gilmour and Waters would give it one more go.
 

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The only reason that Waters is doing a Dark Side tour is due to the incredible success of the Australian Pink Floyd that have been doing this for a few years now. In fact I doubt that Waters' own performance will be their equal.
Both Waters and Gilmore should let the Floyd sleep in peace, other than performing the occasional song. Unless through some miracle they decide to tour one last time as Pink Floyd. Waters has grown money hungry in the last few years. After Live 8, there was a resurgence of interest in Pink Floyd and Gilmore wished to give all the extra profits to charity but Waters refused. At least Gilmore has continued to tour on his own merits but Waters can't seem to survive without invoking the ghost of Pink Floyd whenever he needs to make some cash. All of that being said, he did seem to be deliriously happy to be performing with the re-united group at Live8 while Gilmore looked like a grumpy sob.
 

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Joelcairo,

To say that PF were never as good without Barrett is your opinion, wich I respect.
But,I beleive it's a matter of taste.I tend to prefer their ''cosmic'' years,roughfly 1968-72.Pre Dark side,when the band were experimenting with instruments,sounds,drugs,ect...
Very influential,even today's bands like Radiohead,Portishead,have claim being influenced by PF.
Between 1968 and 1979 the band never released any singles!
So maybe they had commercial success,but they've never succombed to the record executives that wanted them to become a pop band a write singels.
Even their ''less'' experimental albums are far more experimental and progressive than many if not most other rock bands of the day.
I have nothing agaisnt Costello or U2,but it's just not my type of music.
I prefer progressive bands,and Floyd with or without Barrett have always been original,creative,forward thinking,progressive and adventurous.
Just my 3¢
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When I was growing up in the 1970s Pink Floyd was possibly my favorite rock band, along with the Moody Blues and Led Zeppelin. I personally believe Dark Side of The Moon is one of the 5 greatest rock albums of all time, and I think most rock critics would agree. I don't believe there was another album I ever listened to more than Dark Side of the Moon. It is original, creative and atmospheric, as is "Days of Future Passed" by the Moody Blues.

David Gilmour is possibly one of the most underrated guitarists of all time. His work on Dark Side of the Moon is nothing short of brilliant.
 

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EB, I heartily agree with your band choices and I would like to add King Crimson, Supertramp who were popular in Quebec long before the US knew they existed, the original Genesis with Peter Gabriel and the Strawbs who few here have probably ever heard of. Their albums Hero & Heroine and Ghosts are two of my favorite progressive rock albums of all time.

One of my favorite Floyd albums is Meddle. I love to listen to Echoes when I'm reading a good book or just trying to relax. I have 5 GB of Pink Floyd tunes on my system and I think I'll revisit some of it tonight.:)
 

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Wow!

I never thought I,d come across progressive rock fans here on MERB!
Techman,I'm into all of the bands you've mention and then some...
King Crimson:pionneers of prog rock.Dramatic and pompous,Robert Fripp is another uncredited genious.
The 1972-74 were their best IMHO,with such players as Bill Bruford and John Wetton and his monstruous bass playing.
The Strawbs:pionneers of prog-folk.The albums you've mention are quite representative of their best period.The song AUTUMN sends shills down my spine everytime I ear it!:p
Their first keybordist was Rick Wakeman,then future yes kbds.
Supertramp:their first and second albums criminally underestimated,are my faves.
The Moodies;pioneers of the mellotron.They,ve created orchestral sounds with just the 5 of them,thanks to said mellotron.
And the list goes on....
 

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Cosmo, how about Emerson, Lake and Palmer? The Moog synthesizer!
Karn-evil9! When music was actually more than background tracks for the latest cute vocalizer enhanced singer.

Did you ever listen to Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds album? Narration by Richard Burton and songs by the Moody Blues among others. Amazing disc. Listening to it is better than watching any movie.:D In fact the last Tom Cruise movie stole the sound of the alien walkers from that album.

By the way, the Strawbs were in town a few months ago, at the Medley I believe, but they've gone back to being a folk music group which is where they came from.
 
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ELP?
Of course!
Emerson was to the organ what Hendrix was to guitar!
He had it cutom made,even the cabinets.
Yet another pioneer.
The were rumors back in 70 when the band was coming apart that Hendrix would have join them.
Would have been HENDRIX,EMERSON LAKE and PALMER=HELP!
As for the moog synth,same thing he worked closely with Bob Moog,the inventor who sadly passed away too,not long ago.
You know that R2D2's sqweeking sounds in Star Wars was made by a moog?
Btw,Carl Palmer was here too,at the medley.last May with his own band.a power trio,WITHOUT keyboards.
They played ELP stuff as well as classical stuff(no surprise)
jEFF Waye,yeah lots of bif names on this epic double album.
Heard it many moons ago,unfortunately can't remember.
As for the Strawbs,I know they have different configurations,amongst them a folk trio of guitarist,and the full-rock band.
Most of the current band is from the Hero and Heroin line-up.
Cronk,Cousins,Lambert,Hawkens,and the third whose name eludes me.(damn Halzheimer!).
Rock on!
 

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Not me,I'll be at the Gèsu for the ''Festival des Musiques progressives de Montréal''.
6 acts will be playing the first edition:Echolyn from USA,Hatfield and the North from UK,as well as quebecers Kaos Moon,Miriodor,Karcius and former Maneige pianist Jerome Langlois.
Those are independent artists making great forward thinking music and they need support.
Nothing against Waters btw,but I had to make a choice.
 

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news from D.Gilmour web-site

Tuesday 11th July 2006

Edit from David Gilmour official web-site

http://www.davidgilmour.com/news.htm

SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND – SYD BARRETT DIES AGED 60
We are very sad to say that Roger Keith Barrett - Syd - has passed away.

Do find time today to play some of Syd’s songs and to remember him as the Madcap genius who made us all smile with his wonderfully eccentric songs about bikes, gnomes and scarecrows.

His career was painfully short, yet he touched more people than he could ever know.

If you're one of those people, and would like to leave your thoughts, please feel free to do so.



It is with great sadness that we report that Syd Barrett, the former lead singer, guitarist and songwriter of Pink Floyd, has died at the age of 60.

Syd died peacefully at his home in Cambridge after suffering from complications related to diabetes. There will be a private family funeral.

David Gilmour recently paid tribute to his old friend Syd by including the classic songs Arnold Layne and Dominoes in the set-list for the On An Island tour. He will be much missed, though his influence remains.

The following is an extract from UK trade paper Music Week's daily news page:

Pink Floyd founding member Syd Barrett has died at his Cambridgeshire home from what is believed to be complications from diabetes. The 60-year-old, who suffered a breakdown in the Sixties following his use of LSD, had been a virtual recluse for more than three decades after completely withdrawing from the public spotlight in the early Seventies. He passed away last Friday, although news of his death has today only been announced.

Pink Floyd issued a statement saying, "The band are naturally very upset and sad to learn of Syd Barrett's death. Syd was the guiding light of the early band line-up and leaves a legacy which continues to inspire".

Barrett penned their first two hit singles, Arnold Layne (which reached number 20 in the UK) and See Emily Play (a UK number six), while their first album The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn followed later in 1967. However, their third single Apples And Oranges reflected Barrett's worsening mental state. David Gilmour joined the line-up in February 1968, giving rise to suggestions [that] Barrett would follow the example of Brian Wilson and stop touring with the band to concentrate on his songwriting. Instead, his departure from the band was announced the following April. The last Floyd album he appeared on was their second set, A Sau****ul Of Secrets, released in July 1968.

Work then started on his first solo album, The Madcap Laughs, which made it to number 40 in the UK chart in February 1970. A second album, Barrett, followed, but an attempt to return to recording in 1974 ended in failure.

Despite being a recluse since the mid-Seventies, Barrett remained an inspirational figure to many musicians. His legacy was felt in recent solo gigs this year by David Gilmour who in one concert at London's Royal Albert Hall performed Barrett's Arnold Layne with David Bowie during the encore.



R.I.P. SYD


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Dahlia,

I do have the Crazy Diamond box set as well as the madcap laghs, Barrett and Opel.Lots repetition here.
I even have some rare BBC stuff,and rare 45 King Bee and another one wich eludes me.
So yes his death does touches me.
 

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Hey Honest Abe, sorry if I hurt your feelings, although it always amazes me how grown men whimper when anyone disagrees with their musical taste (or "taste", as you like to say). Anyway, I spent the last 14 days listening to U2 and to post-Barrett Floyd to see if maybe you were right, but sorry man - you're not. (Don't take it personally though - I'm sure you're a terrific guy who's kind to animals and little children.) By the way, in your response don't you think you went maybe just a little overboard? If you'll notice, I didn't even mention the great Roger Waters in my tribute to Syd. Oh, also by the way, I think Elvis (Presley, that is) was great and Lennon was also pretty cool...at least until his head got too big. Peace, man, and go enjoy your music - I know lots of people who like that U2 type of stuff, and I don't hold it against them either.
 

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Holy Sh*t!

I can't believe everybody talking about the MOOG synth. I'm not sure how I missed this thread earlier, but this is bringing back some serious memories (granted the synth came out before I was born!) I've got to go look in my attic right now, because there is a a fully functional MOOG somewhere up there. Of course I have zero musical talent, but it is still a damn fun toy to play around with.


Sorry to hear about Sid Barret as well. Floyd is amazing, I had the plaesure to see them at Foxboro Stadium (USA, MA.) years ago on their "last" world tour. Amazing show, seriously, and I'm just glad I got to see them at least once live. I'm a big hip hop fan these days, but basically because most rock bands just ain't like they used to be (Pink Floyd being example of what, modern groups can't even come close too.) The live form is hard to fake, well if you don't count all those lipsynching frauds out there these days.

SOX
 

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Sox,

If I were you I'd try and see some collectors and have this moog evaluate.
You know that Bob Moog, it's inventor who unfortunately passed away last year,had one of the first prototype in display at EXPO 1967 in Montréal?
At the USA pavillion,aperantly back then it was worth 13 000$!
As for today's bands,I'd suggest check out this cool site for hundreds of great emergent up and coming cool bands: www.progarchives.com
Great music does exists,it's just being ignored by mass medias in favor of american idol and all that boys and girls bands crap.
Nice to see some melomans here.;)
 
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