Racist Trump tells minority-race Congresswomen to leave US
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You, like everyone, are entitled to your opinion. But maybe you should at least try to get your facts straight: "Her homeland" is the USA, the country she was born in.
^^^^^^^ Yes I know she was born in the US. My error in using the word homeland, she should still be deported somewhere
And the same can be said of you. I’m sure a lot of people have the same sentiment that you should be deported somewhere....
Yes it is disturbing, but he is one man and the fact that someone with his views can become the President and have a huge chance of being re-elected is way more disturbing.
It is unfortunate that he pulls this kind of crap knowing that it will actually help him in the polls that is what is really disturbing, because I don’t believe he is as much of a racist as people make him out to be.
Politicians will do whatever is required to get votes and they are just as corrupt on both sides, I don’t believe Hilary would have been better than Trump. It would have been a different scumbag but in a skirt.
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Exactly Donbush. Just a pointer you should note that this was a citation from Martin Niemöller.
I particularly like: "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" *George Santayana
And my own personal citation inspired by my friend the Trumpet...
"We are all the ass hole of at least someone else. If you do not realized that then you are a real ass hole!"
I particularly like: "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" *George Santayana
And my own personal citation inspired by my friend the Trumpet...
"We are all the ass hole of at least someone else. If you do not realized that then you are a real ass hole!"
Well, I'd agree with one thing, he very definitely, "was elected by the system in place."
But it's still minority rule. And it matters. It also happened in 2000 and could happen again in 2020. With the electoral college, smaller, more conservative & rural states are given an outsized importance as populations continue to become more concentrated in the big cities on the coasts.
I think something similar is taking place at the state level where Republicans work to ensure white rule through manipulated electoral districts as the country as a whole becomes less white.
Well, terrible news indeed. But at least we know now that Trump monitors merb daily and takes measures against his enemies posting therein.
And of course it is somewhat heartening to know that you are still able to post even after they came for you.
Took 300mg of Fukitall and zero fucks given. You should learn to let things go, did not realise the impact I left on you, get over it.
For myself if I do not respect the person I am in discussion with I do not really care what they think of me, brings it back to the first sentence.
You lie like your hero. To start with, the blue board is dead now and I don't recall posting there for at least a year. When I did post there, I mostly copied and pasted the same reviews I posted here and never had occasion to discuss any individual here.
^^^^ Sorry but you are making stuff up, yes it is closed, odd that you knew and did not post for a year.
BTW, Trump is not my hero, just hate the way the media attacks the right and lets the left run rampant, I also find it amusing how fast some are triggered when a different opinion is given.
BTW, Trump is not my hero, just hate the way the media attacks the right and lets the left run rampant, I also find it amusing how fast some are triggered when a different opinion is given.
Bred Sob,
You’re just exposing your ignorance and rage by mocking this poem. “First they came ...” is a famous poem attributed to German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). I didn’t post the attribution to see which poster would be so blinded by rage that he would actually lash out at it? Guess u just embarrassed yourself.
Niemöller wrote this confessional to highlight the complicity of Germany’s intellectuals (himself included) in the Nazi movement and Hitler’s rise. Niemöller was an anti-communist and anti-semite who fervently supported Hitler’s rise to power.
Like many Germans of his time, Niemöller was deeply humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles. He was a U-boat commander in WWI and discharged after refusing to surrender his U-Boat to England following Germany’s defeat in 1918. Despite becoming a pastor, Niemöller’s deep rage dominated his actions.
From the Holocaust museum, read it carefully and see the similarity to Trump’s ‘Make America Great Again’ message:
“He felt that reparations, democracy, and foreign influence had led to damaging social fragmentation and an overemphasis on the individual in German society. Niemöller believed that Germany needed a strong leader to promote national unity and honor. When Hitler and the National Socialist Party emerged, touting nationalist slogans and advocating autonomy for private worship of the Christian faith, Niemöller voted for the Nazis—both in the 1924 Prussian state elections and in the final national parliamentary elections of March 1933.”
By the time, Niemöller realised his grave mistake and tried opposing Hitler, it was too late as the Gestapo was already tapping his phone. In 1937, Niemöller was imprisoned till the end of WW2.
Thank you for taking the time to deliver this lecture. Hate to disappoint to you, but I am familiar with this poem and know who wrote it. And who knows, maybe I am even able to understand its meaning better than some other people, as I have family members killed by both Hitler and Stalin.
I did not mock this poem. It is sad that you can not comprehend this obvious fact. I did mock your obscenely ignorant post. But then misplaced Nazi allusions invariably are, so no one should claim surprise.
I did not mock this poem. It is sad that you can not comprehend this obvious fact. I did mock your obscenely ignorant post. But then misplaced Nazi allusions invariably are, so no one should claim surprise.
Dude, u have been exposed as ignorant, don’t be a sore loser, just own it like a man. Maybe u wanna delete yr earlier posts, I promise not to tell anyone.
Your argument centers around ‘Bred Sob is an immigrant’ or ‘Bred Sob has had relatives killed by Hitler & Stalin’ therefore he should be excused from his ridiculous posts. Firstly, I hope u’re not making all yr ‘Sob’ stories up because it insults the memories of others. Secondly, stop using all these ‘Sob’ stories as a shield, argue from facts otherwise u’re just embarrassing yrself. Lastly, immigration simply means people moving to another country for a better life, it is a neutral event and it doesn’t make anyone better or worse in character. Which is why I think u’re full of it because most immigrants know that and don’t go around talking about it.
I am certainly flattered by your kind words, but the focus of this thread is Trump, not my humble person. And the subject of this specific exchange is the outrageously obscene allusion you chose to make to Nazi realities. I agree, I probably should not have mocked it, as this obscene garbage does not merit any time spent on refuting it.
So u finally admit that u mocked the poem despite claiming to have “family members killed by Hitler & Stalin”. I think u really shld do some self reflection because yr personal problems run deep.
As to why the Nazi allusion, Trump is gathering votes by tapping on people’s fear & hatred just like Hitler. The problem with Trump isn’t one or two presidential elections, it’s about the legitimizing of such tactics. People killed in genocides weren’t always killed by strangers but by their neighbors and former friends driven by fear and hate.
Why won't you try learning to read, you may even like that skill. I repeat: I never mocked the poem. I did mock your grotesquely obscene post. And I probably should not have, as it is not worth the time and effort to argue with people like you and refute the garbage they generate.
That is exactly the point. Hitler is known in history for being first and foremost a mass murderer, not for gathering votes. To claim that Trump is "just like Hitler" (in whatever respect) is beyond dumb, it is sickening. And it does indeed insult the memory of (millions of) Hitler's victims.
The Trump/Hitler comparison is one that needs threading with a fine needle. Obviously and thankfully, Trump hasn't murdered 11 million people. But the demagoguery, particularly using prejudice as a weapon, is spot on. That's basically what DonBusch said. Hitler didn't invent European anti-Semitism but wielded it very well. Similarly, Trump didn't invent American racism but his declaration for the Presidency began with racism. It's only gotten worse from there. His racism predates June 2015 but that is another story.
Since adulation--whereever it comes from--is one of the few things that matter to him, he also just happens to be the one of the few people shameless enough to use racism for his own ends. It's why he couldn't bring himself to disavow David Duke during the Republican primaries. It's also why he reversed course on Charlottesville to praise people on both sides. He knows his audience. When he invented the row about NFL players protesting the national anthem, that controversy was obliquely about race yet Trump never framed it that way. Why then were Trump supporters who agreed with his faux patriotism referring to black people as the n-word in a reporter's presence? (https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...rump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800). Race is a core component of why some of his supporters love him. Much like they saw him as their candidate in 2016 and praised his Charlottesville reversal, white supremacists had zero issue with Trump's Sunday tweet.
So Godwin's Law nonewithstanding, to compare Trump to Hitler because of the demagoguery isn't off base at all. The only other teeny difference is demagogues are usually good orators. No sane person could ever describe Trump as such. I know plenty of people whose native tongue isn't English that make Trump look like he's an ESL student.
Since adulation--whereever it comes from--is one of the few things that matter to him, he also just happens to be the one of the few people shameless enough to use racism for his own ends. It's why he couldn't bring himself to disavow David Duke during the Republican primaries. It's also why he reversed course on Charlottesville to praise people on both sides. He knows his audience. When he invented the row about NFL players protesting the national anthem, that controversy was obliquely about race yet Trump never framed it that way. Why then were Trump supporters who agreed with his faux patriotism referring to black people as the n-word in a reporter's presence? (https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...rump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800). Race is a core component of why some of his supporters love him. Much like they saw him as their candidate in 2016 and praised his Charlottesville reversal, white supremacists had zero issue with Trump's Sunday tweet.
So Godwin's Law nonewithstanding, to compare Trump to Hitler because of the demagoguery isn't off base at all. The only other teeny difference is demagogues are usually good orators. No sane person could ever describe Trump as such. I know plenty of people whose native tongue isn't English that make Trump look like he's an ESL student.
