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    Montreal vs TO ladies

    I wanted to comment on EBS' comparison and comments on TO vs Montreal ladies.

    I certainly have had my share of wondeful experiences with the $200 ladies in TO, Russian or Canadian. The failing of the Russian girls is that they are strict clock-watchers (not their own doing) and thus the rapport and intimacy that you can develop with an indy in Montreal cannot be accomplished in TO with the $200-$220 ladies.

    Montreal's more expensive ladies (the $450/2 hour variety) are without peer in Canada, IMHO, simply because they are not clock watchers. Some of my best SP experiences have occurred when the lady in question remained with me for another 30 mionutes to 2 hours longer than contracted for, simply because we were having a good time -- conversing and getting to know one another.

    Those kinds of experiences in Montreal, I am afraid, are few and far between in TO.

    Vive les femmes Quebequois!! (Did I get that correct?)
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    almost!

    its "vive les femmes québecoises"

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    At the $200/hour level, the Russians in TO are without peer, as long as you don't mind that look of "I gotta leave soon" coming over them with 10 minutes left in the session. Most of these girls get fined if they are late leaving a date.

    Raising the price to $250 in TO gets you lots of quality and a full session and maybe more (Sorel being a prime example)>

    In Montreal, I have had more sessions go overtime than in TO. Maybe it's me (LOL) and maybe it's the more laid-back attitude of the Montreal ladies.

    Either way, thee's lots of quality to be had in both cities.

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    Staying overtime is an unreasonable expectation to set..

    Traveller099,

    I think its a bit unfair to compare Russian agency girls in Toronto with Montreal Indys. Why not compare agencies with agencies? There are several Russian agencies and not all of them operate like the Gestapo when it comes to the time issues. On one of my recent passes through TO, I had one of Toronto's Finest agencies call at the end of a three hour session I had with one of their superstars. It was the owner of the agency, a guy I've known for seven years. The lady's comment in response to his call was that she felt rushed. That was the only call she had for the evening. The Toronto market has a much broader base than the Russians everybody seems to fixating upon. The mafia has established a nice lowball price point in the middle market to pull the volume and maximize cash for funding their criminal enterprises. Market rate in Toronto is right around the 200-220 for the first hour for an outcall. There are women of many ethnic varieties in the YYZ market as opposed to the Montreal market which is dominated by Quebecoise ladies.

    Whereas your experience with the Indys in Montreal may have indicated they were generous with their time, my experience has been anywhere from having them dash a few minutes early, to staying overnight gratis. Yes, I am sure we're are all captivated by the charm and sexuality of the Quebecoise ladies. However, that doesn't translate into the Indys being more generous with their time. There are mercenaries in the Montreal indy market as well. This generosity or lack thereof with respect to time is purely on a case by case basis. I received a gratis 3 hour session from one Toronto lady as a thankyou for my continued patronage over a 2 year period. This woman was not only generous with her time, but her usual rates are considerably lower than she could charge in Toronto. On numerous occasions she has dropped me off at places in TO after a session at my hotel. She also has full time employment as a Controller in one of Canada's largest distribution companies. A lot of the Montreal HDH indies are legitimate full time students or have other professional pursuits. When they see me on a weeknight and have to get up to write an 8am exam, I have absolutely no problem with having them leave ontime. If they happen to see me on a night where they don't have an early up, they tend to relax and not be as concerned about leaving ontime. Many will go to lunch or have a drink off the clock. But this is a function of familiarity and is not something one can reasonably expect. This is first and foremost a business to them, and just as you should expect punctuality from them, one cannot reasonably expect them to overstay an appointment. On the other hand, if you've seen Lea or Laura, two of the Russian Indys in Toronto, my experience with each of these ladies has been that neither were clock watchers. As I recall the first time I met Laura she was 20 minutes early catching me in the shower and that she left a half hour late. Lea and I just went at it and the next thing I know it was daylight. However, when you're in an agency and booked with 6 to 8 clients a day with no control over your time, one can see why staying with you past your scheduled time means absolutely nothing. These ladies are there to polish your knob and then move on to the next customer. Forgive them for not falling in love or at least being enamoured by your company..LOL.

    I've discovered numerous agencies that levy fines against their girls, including some in Montreal, not just the Russian agencies. Recall the recent post that the reknown Private Lies had such a practice. Yes, there is no such thing as Santa Claus..LOL. The comments on clock watching which appear in many reviews of agency girls are absurd. I see the game being played by the half hour bookers who try to squeeze 45 minutes out of the session. When asked why they book half hours, they always claim a time constraint. I claim they're just cheap. As you point out, yet seem to somewhat ignore in the rest of your post, the agency lady does not control her own time. She may have several calls that night, be picked up by a driver who works for the agency and may have several deliveries of other ladies to make. If your date were to stay past her time on a consistent basis, the next thing you know the board is filled with complaints against the agency for late deliveries. So I would caution any client hiring an escort to not have expectations that the escort will stay overtime gratis. Also realize that if a girl has to stay past her alloted time with you, for instance to clean up, that she is causing a delay in the system that may well translate to you being inconvenienced if other hobbyists are equally inconsiderate in not honoring time constraints.

    My main point about Toronto versus Montreal--As a general rule it's ludicrous in the Toronto market to spend above the market rate (220) as the HDH market there still continues to offer little in terms of value. In Toronto, you can pay for superstar looks, but unfortunately MOST of the time the performance is just not there.

    My most recent 2 week field trip to Canada involved stays in both Toronto and Montreal. As I look at my Toronto schedule, 7 of the 9 ladies I had on schedule were 220 or 200, the others being 275 and 250. Servicewise these women were statistically identical to Montreal in every way. My Montreal schedule was exclusively HDH 300 or more for the first hour. Now comparing escorts who go out at market rate in Toronto--two hours would be 420-450. The established Montreal HDH rate is 450/2 despite the fact there are several trying to float 550/2. The 550/2 is a non-starter in my considered opinion given the quality and quantity of women at the established rate of 450/2. For those of us who understand why we would diffentiate and justify a 450/2 price point, a 550/2 price point just doesn't make sense. I don't believe the indys at 450/2 will be encouraged to increase their rates based on this renegade pricing. They have achieved the purpose of charging above market, (that would be to screen off miscreants) and manage demand, and don't require a further price hike. The 550 price level may be floated, it won't be sustained anywhere but in cyberspace.--you heard it here first..LOL.

    In contrast to Toronto, IMNSHO one does obtain his value for 450/2 HDH in Montreal. And note that the 450/2 is right what you'd pay for the market rate experience in Toronto. The Montreal experience is no compromise. You do not have to pay HDH price in Montreal if all you are looking for is service. With an HDH you expect to get a gorgeous, well presented, well adjusted lady who honors appointments and who will rock your world. The extra cost is worth it to one wants to spend the extra for the HDH experience. All others need not opine.

    EBS
    Last edited by E B Samaritano; 10-25-2003 at 09:47 AM.
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