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    Anybody Out There Know Something About Cars?

    I'm hoping that there's some mechanic types among us. I've had some problems starting my car since about August or September. I could hear the engine turning but it won't engage. I have to fiddle around with it for a few minutes before it will actually start. The garage couldn't find anything wrong with it and said more time must be given for the problem to come out. In the last month, I haven't had starting problems but I've had about three incidents where I would be driving on the street or even on highway 40 and the engine just cut out on me. I had to restart the car while it was rolling. Needless to say, this freaked me out. Brought the car back to the garage today to get snow tires put on and they still could find anything from the scans. Anybody out there knows what's wrong? BY the way, it's a 1997 Eagle Talon.

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    Welcomed to the Eagle Talon world..!! I have a 93.. Good car but lots of problems.

    Here are a few links to some communities dedicated to these cars, join, post your problem(s), some expert will help garanteed..!!

    http://www.dsm.org/
    http://ca.dsm.org/
    http://www.dsmquebec.org/


    Enjoy your car, it will give you a few headaches but the rewards are great... pretty cool to beat those big V-8 with our 2.0 liters 4 cylinders engines (assuming you have a TSI)..!!

    If you are going to the dealer with your car, don't go to Chrysler, go to Mitsubishi, they're the ones that really know these cars..!!

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    best mechanics!!

    Try these guys out, been going there for years really got diagnostic skills. They specialize in imports and european. 514-343-5232

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    Tell your mechanic to change the CPS sensor, "Crank Position Sensor"

    Part is about 30-50$. I am very positive this is the problem.

    Let me know the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master_Oldies
    Also, when you "turn on" the key before starting you are supposed tu hear the noise of the fuel pump (about 2 seconds).
    Not on an Eagle Talon..!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtlguy78
    Tell your mechanic to change the CPS sensor, "Crank Position Sensor"

    Part is about 30-50$. I am very positive this is the problem.

    Let me know the outcome.
    Common mistakes with "do-it yourselfers"... changing a part hoping it will fix the problem...

    Find out what your problem is, then change the part or fix it..!!

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    Well the mechanic here on the west island said that he ran some tests that are similar to those on a Neon since he thought that the engine would be similar to a Talon. Don't know if that's true. Nothing came out and nothing shows up on the scans as nothing was registered on the computer, Maybe I really do have to bring the car to a more specialized place that knows this car.

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    Don't think the immobilizer would stop the car after it's started. Usually they prevent the starter to click. Might be different with the Talon.

    Fuel pump would stall the car and make it hard to start. But then it would probably not restart immediately, while driving, because there would not be enough fuel. Might be the problem, might not.

    I had problems with soldering joints cracking on the ECU and various relays, and this stopped the car and made it hard to start. Hitting the parts usually made the problem appear and dissapear. Same with wiring and corrosion on connectors.

    I would not try to unplug a spark plug and check for spark to metal parts. This was no problems before electronic controls but, on some cars, this could destroy the ECU because of the load variation and possible short. I still use this trick on my lawnmower.

    Best: don't listen to us and seek profesionnal assistance, as other suggested. References from other peoples is usually the best and there's some previously mentionned here!

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticSpirit
    Maybe I really do have to bring the car to a more specialized place that knows this car.
    YES

    It will be cheaper that way..!! Cité Mitsubishi on Décarie would be a good choice.


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    Montreal, Quebec
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    Phone (514) 735-3700
    Fax (514) 735-9726

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    You're better off bringing it to an Eagle dealer. Nobody will know more about their cars than them.

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    Spark or gas.

    If the problem is spark:

    - change your ignition wires, especialy if they are 5 years old or more
    - change your spake plugs especialy if they are 3 years old or more.
    - have the ignition cap and rotor checked if they are more than 5 years old

    If it is a gas problem:

    - change gas filter, especialy if more than 3 years old
    - could be fuel pump ( mucho dinero )
    - could be injectors ( mucho dinero )

    Cheap fixes:

    - change fuel filter
    - put fuel injection cleaner fluid in gas tank

    It may not be any of the above, but if you are not too worried then try these fixes out. I can only guess that you mechanic has not done a scan on the car to determine what the trouble code is, or if he has he was not able to determine the problem.

    Good luck.

    Peterman

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    Quote Originally Posted by master_bates
    You're better off bringing it to an Eagle dealer. Nobody will know more about their cars than them.

    WRONG, MITSUBISHI know best about DSM... it's exactly the same as an Eclipse...

    Believe me, I've had mine for 11 years now... EAgle guys know shit about these cars..

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    Quote Originally Posted by G1GBallday
    I don't know much about mechanics but I do know that the Talon was built in the USA by Diamond Star Motors which was a collaboration between Chrysler and Mitsubishi. They produced the Chrysler Laser, The Mitsubishi Eclipse, and the Eagle Talon with the only differences being outer body esthetics.

    Luckily the drive train was all Japanese so it's more reliable than the rest of the car which was all pre-Daimler Chrysler and IMO total shit.

    Eagle dealers don't exist anymore but you could try a Jeep dealer since most were Jeep-Eagle dealers back in the day however because you have an engine issue, I'd definitely go to a Mitsubishi dealer since they built it.

    The whole engine is mitsubishi too, all the electronics as well...frankly, I'm not sure what Chrysler contributed to these cars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman
    If the problem is spark:
    - have the ignition cap and rotor checked if they are more than 5 years old
    Don't spend too much time looking for that, there are none on the Talon..

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    What Peterman said.

    Cracks or loss of seal in the high voltage part of ignition system will cause problems that become evident in wet or humid conditions. Car starts fine after a long dry period. Car has problems when it is humid, rains or the road is wet

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