Have the LE exterminated all the skum bags?
This is a theory that a dancer at Chez Parre had. She told me that business is down by quite a bit in the last few years, because the skums of society are either behind bars, have restrictions placed on them when they leave incarceration not to be in contact with other skum bags or the opportunities that they have had in the past to make illegal money has all dried up.
Gone are the days of running booze and cigarettes across the border, and it seems that there are less drug users these days as there were years ago. Even the massage business is half way legitimized and accepted or at least tolerated by the LE.
What is your opinion, are there less skum bags, are there less opportunities to make ill gotten gains?
A skum by another name would be as skummy!
Skumbags = Lowlifes that parasite off society and make money by illegal means. E.G. theft, extortion, pimping, traficking in drugs, selling of stolen goods, or traficking in contraband.
Big Cool Daddy,
It has been many years since I have taken the Metro or public transportion of any sort, so I have no idea of what is happening in the Metro system or in the est end of Montreal. I can only guess that the lowlifes of yesteryear have been replaced by the Bo-gars and Crips gangs ( and other simular vermin )
I have been told that the biker gangs are the suppliers of drugs to the lower level street gangs.
Wow. A theory espoused by a Chez Paré dancer must be up there with Darwin, Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton.
Maybe business is down for her because she is pushing 25 & is no longer the sexy little skank she was at 19. Turn up the lights and take a good look. YIKES.
But the issue at hand is skumbags or scumbags.
BDC has it right about Pie IX north of Cremazie and the Cloverdale area of Pierrefond. Cote des Neiges had the same thing happen there. Not to forget Hochelaga Maisonneuve where 50 year old hookers patrol the streets at 6 AM.
You have to rememember that Laval & Longueuil have slummified in some areas and are filled with tough guys.
So maybe the scum are spreading themselves thin. Perhaps that's why we call them scum.
I guess it depends on your area... Look at the Plateau now compared with 10or even 5 years ago... Rents and taxes are up a lot, which has forced many undesiables to leave the area. Result: less graffiti and vandalism, less needles in the parks, less stolen cars, less beggars etc... Of course, these people did not evaporate into thin air... They just moved. If you live in one of their "new" neighborhoods, then I'm sorry for you
Where are the new skumtowns springing up?
I guess Montreal North can be considered a skum infested area. Where else in the Montreal area would you find skumola?
I live in west-island near Pierrefonds/Roxboro and at night you must be very careful near Gouin blvd.
Lots of street gangs,taxing ect..,
When these skum bags are alone by themseves usually they're not too brave,but in gangs....they become tough guys.
These days it hard to get away with stuff.
With the high sophistication of electronic surveillance it is hard to get away with shit. I understand that years ago people like health inspectors, the guy that takes you on a driving test at the licence bureau, cops, and other assorted officials were on the take.
These days they can not take a chance on getting caught.
I am giving her lessons, would you like the privilage of SLOPPY SECONDS?
I know a couple of club owners and they tell me that business has taken a nose dive since the no smoking law came into effect. Much higher turnover of customers and they don't stay very long. I spoke to a doorman when we went to Wanda's after the party and he told me it has been really tough since the law came in. It really has nothing to do with less lowlifes on the street. Besides, gangbangers tend not to hang out at downtown strip clubs.
Could be the currency exchange rate and people prefer contact dances.
And there's a scumbag per cubic centimetre in Parliament.
With the advent of contact SC and ''clubs à gaffes'' or FS clubs (located more often outside MTL), people have probably realized that there's more action and more money to be made over at those clubs than at the more conservative, high-end ones. Just my theory.
Originally Posted by J. Peterman
Last edited by femaleluver2; 12-14-2006 at 06:58 AM.
Actually the theory is laughably off base.Most of your "scum bags" are on the internet or into electronic crime.
Originally Posted by J. Peterman
A few examples - one of the oldtime dancers/hookers uses public access, marketing pornographic pictures of herself in her younger days.
The new generation of stick-up artists rarely do depanneurs - they prefer
The local fraud artists do not have to pass bad checks at a store across town - they can scam the whole world via eBay.
The East End
Originally Posted by Big Daddy Cool
BDC and others,
I have lived all my life in the east end - the home of the founding Hell's Angels,Richard Blass,Machine Gun Molly and many others.
Seriously doubt that you would know your way around the east end.
Your characterization is simply out of line.The strip razed along Notre Dame for the 1976 Olympics was alot worse than anything you see today.The many taverns and bars that were hot beds of criminal activity have long closed.
As for safety - the apartments below Industrial on Pie IX and a few blocks east were problematic before the first Haitians arrived.The area was never as bad as Walkley in NDG before the Russians arrived and cleaned it up.
The Violi brothers were all gunned down execution style in the seventies and the ethnic social clubs along in Rosemount/St.Michel/St.Leonard have been around going on three generations.
The situation from the mid 1990's into this decade with the biker wars had nothing to do with immigration,ethnics or any of the other factors you list.
The Spanish,Croatians,Slovenians never dominated the east end.Besides the Italians and Irish there are Polish and Ukrainian enclaves - between them featuring at least six churches and the same number of community centers.
Facts are rather useful at times.
What strip along Notre Dame street was razed for the 1976 Olympics?
The Olympics took over Morgan hill between Pie IX, Pierre des Coubertins (formerly Boyce), Viau & Sherbrooke and a section of the municipal golf course north of Sherbrooke between Viau & l'Assomption.
Perhaps you mean the area just west of Jacques Cartier bridge where Place Radio Canada now stands. That area was one of the worst slums in Canada, for all the world to see during Expo 67, until it was razed in the very late 60's early 70's. The people that lived there moved east along Notre Dame street all the way into Longue Pointe.
East end dives along Notre Dame street. O'Chalutier, Shed 25, Café de l'Est, Joes.
Originally Posted by hydragoat
The north side of Notre Dame from the tracks where Ste Catharine curves into Notre Dame to the train tracks just west of Moreau was all residential(slums)/semi commercial.All the small side streets like Desjardins,LaSalle,Letourneaux etc used to exit onto Notre Dame.That green space on the north side of Notre Dame was occupied at one point by slum housing,small businesses and bars that catered to the ships.
I played football at Champetre Park most of the 1960's so I know.Morgan Hill
ran from Sherbrooke down to Boyce - now Pierre de Cubertain,and the Soapbox Derby used to be held there annually.
Last edited by eastender; 12-14-2006 at 10:40 PM.