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    write off your session (tax deductible sex)

    for taxable expenses etc.
    If you are working with regular independant sp and have real company or are a salesman.
    perhaps you can negotiate gift certificate i/o money.
    ie gift cert at holts, or browns, or zellers, or even at loblaws / provigo / metro, or saq.
    These gift certificates are 100% tax deductible especially during the holiday season.
    good luck.
    Spartacus

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    You are looking for trouble

    You think tax auditors are stupid ???

    I trained many of them

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    Tax deductions

    Alcan,
    Tax auditors are far from being stupid, but they can be outsmarted, that is why you pay tax lawyers!!

    Lawless

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    mp

    If you go to a massage parlor or masseuse who is recognized by gov't
    if they give the proper receipt you should be able to get refunded from your health insurance plan.
    you can check when you call to book an apt if they give receipts.
    most do
    Alcan tax auditors are not stupid, but many taxpayers or non taxpayers are .
    If you buy gift certificates to give out to clients and employees and give them to an sp, or your girlfreind or wife or clients , it is very hard for an auditor to see where they are going.
    From what I understand there are so many blatant, stupid and obvious mistakes ppl make that seem to come up first and get you nabbed.
    Spartacus

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    Reality calling

    Listen to Alcan.

    I have dealt with tax auditors for decades. Should you insult their intelligence when they look into something, they have many ways to make you pay, and make you pay dearly.

    Its always better to talk to them and their supervisors than go to lawyers and then the court. That is prohibitively expensive unless you are talking about huge assessments, with uncertain results - especially when the government lawyers and the judge smell the reason for the expenses - and you have to pay the tax assesment anyway while you wait for the resolution.

    Really, this whole thread is not very realistic. Yes, you might be able to write off a few encounters infrequently, but anything regular just exposes you.

    You would have better luck putting a mistress on the payroll, but then you are limited to one person and its pretax money.
    Last edited by Legolas; 12-12-2003 at 09:45 AM.

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    I find this discussion quite unconscionable. Hobbying may be tolerated in Quebec more than in the States, perhaps because of our "latin" character, but frauding the government of tax revenue is a wholly different matter. Everyone should know that the Qc gov. has just announced another crackdown on tax evasion. Moreover, I'm sure we all understand that LE monitors this board. If they don't crack down on SPs and their clients now (see the parallel thread on Seattle), this is the kind of discussion that may well push them to.

    In particular, I don't think mentioning names of specific SPs who provide receipts is doing them service.

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    Tax Deductions

    Please,

    To all of you, never use the words tax evasion, we have anti-evasion rules in Canada.
    We are studying ways to reduce our taxes by reviewing the tax deduction rules, is could be assimilated to a seminar (the time spent on MERB reviewing this thread could become tax deductible!!!, although MERB is not recognized by our education department, not yet...)

    We are fully complying with the tax laws and regulations.

    Lawless

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    re tax avoidance

    1. re massotherapie receipts.
    These are legal and also accepted by health insurance companies across canada and quebec.
    I do not think there is anything illegal about it.
    if you can find a good mp / indi one who gives good receipts and good hj then good for you.
    2. re sps who receive gifts etc.
    do you really think that sp's and agencies pay income taxes on the cash proceeds they earn from prostitution ?
    if the taxman was reading here and paying attention to the internet etc. I think it would be the agencies/ sps that would be traced / busted/ audited for tax evasion and underground economy.
    Then at least the catch would be worthwhile, instead of trying to find some poor shmuck who posts on this board who paid for some sp with canadian tire money or gift certificates from the future shop or walmart.
    Also really the majority of the sp's only accept cold hard cash,so this whole thread is really an exercize in humerous futility.

    3. for you tax experts out there, are escort fees ( assuming there is no sex but just companionship for 1hr ) subject to gst and pst?
    Spartacus.

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    Re: re tax avoidance

    Originally posted by spartacus
    3. for you tax experts out there, are escort fees ( assuming there is no sex but just companionship for 1hr ) subject to gst and pst?
    Spartacus.
    Everything is taxable here, so yes it would be if it was a legit business.

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    GST / PST

    If their income is under a certain limit (I believe around 30,000$), they do not have to invoice taxes (assuming they report their income!)
    Are all those girls on welfare, specially those in the high ends of the spectrum?
    You also have to ask yourself who is behind some/many of the agencies!!
    What is needed to run an agency (in addition to the performing manpower)

    Lawless

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    Agencies

    The only tangible assets of an agengy are its telephones!

    Certainly no bank account!!!!

    lawless

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    Most of the place that have advertisement in the adds of newspaper are registered companies. So as a registered companies, i guess they have to declare revenu and expense. How much proportion of revenu they declare, probably a small proportion. How much expense they declare, surely a lot. So afterall, the income tax they pay is very low.
    I just look in La Presse and see that ABC softies is a incorporated company.

    Cargo

    P.S. : Lawless, you're right, below 30 000$ of revenu, you don't have to charge GST.
    Je sème à tout vent!

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    I went to many tax planning seminars

    These are very high profile tax law firms that give out tax plannijng seminars to tax proessionals.

    I went to many of these and at least 10% of those attend are tax auditors.

    Tax auditors are on top on these tax planning and only legitimate plans can pass the screening.

    Do you think this can ?

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    Apple, Oranges and Taxes

    We have to differentiate between existing as a corporation and tax issues.
    Very simple to verify if your are a company/corporation carrying on business in Quebec, run a search on the web with the office of the Inspecteur des institutions financières (type IGIF or CIDREQ on Google and you will end up there). Even if you do business with a dba, you may, in certain cases, also have to register with the said office.
    If you are a corporation, does the 30,000$ applies?
    As for tax auditors, they are certainly looking after bigger catches; probably those standing behind some of those agencies.
    Lawless

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    Hi everybody,

    To Stripperlover first, if you look at the adds of the Journal de Montréal, all the agency and massage place show their registered company name (look like it's the policy of the newspaper). So that's why i know they're registered.

    Lawless, for a registered or corporated or a self-made man, as soon as your business made more than 30 000 $ you must charge GST. I don't know that much about corporated company.

    Eager Beaver, i guess they hide a lot of their income, like many business does, specially because it's cash hand to hand business. And the government has not enough income tax inspector. They declare revenue for sure (how much proportion i don't know), but i am sure they probably declare a lot of expense so the net income at the end is so small (it could also be negative) that the income tax they pay is probably very low. These people are not angels. They must operate in a certain legislation but they use the maximum to get most money in their pocket... like a lot of people. The legislation is correct but the surveillance is poor, so their is a lot of cash, the government doesn't collect at the end.

    See you guys

    Cargo
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