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    Idea for agency owners - monthly STD testing

    I was reading a recent thread about someone who caught herpes. (A bone chilling subject.)

    This has been a worry for me (as I am sure for most of us) for a long time.

    If any agency owners are reading this, I think that a good way to increase your business would be to have a policy of your escorts being tested for sexually transmitted diseases every month. I would feel a lot more at ease using an agency that did this. In fact, I would probably use that agency exclusively. (In the fkk clubs in Germany, they have a policy of monthly testing and I am sure that it makes the clients a lot more comfortable using the escorts there.)
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    Questions:

    (1) Why only SP's should be tested, what about the clients?
    (2) What makes you think that agency owners have currently no policy in regards to testing.
    (3) What would certify that the SP's underwent the tests? Are they supposed to publish their monthly medical report?
    (4) Where was Eve when God told Adam not to eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil?
    Last edited by z/m(Ret); 07-06-2007 at 11:44 AM.

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    I agree with Ziggy. Moreover, I am convinced that SPs test themselves more regularly than most clients (and so they should). You can have daily testing and it still will not prevent STIs. Unless scientists discover a cure for most STIs (which will never happen), then the best protection is practicing safe sex and using your common sense.

    GG

    P.S. I do think that agency owners should check valid IDs for new SPs and ask them to submit a valid medical exam before joining the agency. This will suggest that a new lady had no STI when she started working at the agency.

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    Jessy,

    The following comment is not meant to discredit your good intentions but this kind of marketing ploy worries me because it sends out a false sense of safety. The incentives for cheating being too high for any agency to fully comply with its own policies, I believe agencies should refrain from recuperating, for marketing purposes, issues that should preferably be handled by public policy makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Montana
    Jessy,

    The following comment is not meant to discredit your good intentions but this kind of marketing ploy worries me because it sends out a false sense of safety. The incentives for cheating being too high for any agency to fully comply with its own policies, I believe agencies should refrain from recuperating, for marketing purposes, issues that should preferably be handled by public policy makers.

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    Ce que je disais, c'est que, sans chercher à douter de tes bonnes intentions, je suis néanmoins inquiet que des agences se mettent soudainement à se faire de la publicité autour de la prévention contre les maladies vénériennes.

    La raison est que de telles publicités donnent un faux sentiment de sécurité. Les agences ont trop de bonnes raisons (i.e. fast-$$$) pour déroger à leus propres politiques sur les tests médicaux pour qu'elles puissent vraiment être prises au sérieux.

    J'ajouterais ceci. À supposer qu'une agence agisse toujours en parfaite conformité avec ses propres politiques, il n'y a rien qui assure en revanche que les autres agences, qui voudront elles-aussi s'attirer du business en faisant le même genre de publicité, agiront avec autant d'honnêteté.

    Et même si toutes les agences étaient honnêtes, on n'aura fait que toucher qu'une partie du problème parce que: "Qui va faire en sorte que les clients seront eux aussi testés?"

    Les escortes ont autant le droit d'être protégées des clients que l'inverse.

    Je pense que tout cela appartient au domaine de la politique sociale. Le problème actuellement, du moins au Canada, est que nos décideurs ont, depuis longtemps et encore aujourd'hui, la tête dans la sable à ce qui a trait aux problèmes liés à la prostitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Montana
    Ce que je disais,

    Je suis tout a fait d'accord avec ce que tu dis.

    En fait, j'ai répondu rapidement entre 2 choses puis je veux
    ajouter que l'idée des tests était surtout pour protéger mon
    équipe des langues sales, qui aiment mettre la réputation de
    certaines filles et agences sur le ''front page'' du forum avec
    des histoires de maladies.

    Voila, merci Ziggy pour la traduction, grandement apprécié !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maria Divina
    Just translate this important thing.....Tests are punctials reading of our health...They have to be taken like that..Reflect of the past, not of the future!!!! They say that, when they are negatives, that we didn`t have sickness, AT THIS MOMENT.. Always to have new ones....
    Exactly, which is why testing the ladies regularly will just convey a false sense of security as Ziggy correctly pointed out above. My idea of testing new ladies is not to share the info on an public board. It`s just that if I were an agency owner I`d want to check valid identification to make sure they`re not minors and I would ask them to bring me a valid medical workup on STIs. From that point on, it`s up to the ladies to take responsibility of testing themselves.

    One of the reasons that i went to a private clinic to test myself is that I got the full gamut of tests and the results were quick. It was more expensive than going to a clinic like l`Actuelle but the cost was no more than my regular two hour sessions.

    While the risk of contracting an STI is not my main reason for quitting, I do remind myself that if I relapse even once with an SP, I have to wait three to four months to test myself again. No matter how tempting, I can do without that experience.

    GG

    P.S. Now you know why I preferred ladies that were YMMV and had some very tough reviews. I also tried to avoid ladies that worked every single day and did everything under the sun, including BBJTCIMWS. It`s not that is any safer, it`s just that the thought of a lady doing this bothered me. I prefer ladies who are not afraid to say NO and are firm when setting their limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Gonad
    Exactly, which is why testing the ladies regularly will just convey a false sense of security as Ziggy correctly pointed out above.
    Hello my favourite case study

    Just so there's no misunderstanding, what I believe would convey a false of security would be the publicity, not the testing itself. I would never suggest that regular testing is useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Montana
    Just so there's no misunderstanding, what I believe would convey a false of security would be the publicity, not the testing itself. I would never suggest that regular testing is useless.
    Yes, testing is an absolute must but it is the responsibility of the ladies to do it and if agency owners can enforce it, that is even better. I agree with you, however, that testing for marketing purposes does convey a false sense of security and it should be condemned. The fact remains that owners and SPs have an economic interest - and in the case of SPs, health interests - to ensure that ladies at their agencies tests themselves regularly. If they do not understand this, they're just dumb as nails.

    GG

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    They do it for porn...why not here?

    In USA, in porn industry, you have your testing card. So before having sex, you show your health card to your partners and so on. People are so afraid and picky here about privacy (maybe a matter of fact why we have more STD running around...some dont want to talk about it but still want to fuck).

    So my suggestion is that a serious agency would promote that health card, showing that the SP's last month test was negative. If porn girls and boys do, why not SP? I am sure there is a business opportunity here: some will pay more to have a more secure person for service. About law, you cannot force someone to have test, but you cannot force an employer to hire someone who doesnt want. And who will complain at «Normes du travail» if an agency tells a girl: dont come to work until you have been tested?

    Beside that, I have my last test results with me for my fuckfriends ( I do it regularly). I am proud showing it to them when it is time to get into «business» and most of the time, they feel relieved and tell me I am a cautious guy in this fuckworld...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackDoorMan
    So my suggestion is that a serious agency would promote that health card, showing that the SP's last month test was negative. If porn girls and boys do, why not SP?
    You're forgetting one half part of the equation: the client. In the real world (not the world of good intentions), if clients were asked to show health cards to SP's before engaging in sex, they would simply bring their business elsewhere. I'm confident also that there will always be an "elsewhere" where to bring the business as the incentive for fast cash is a much stronger one than concerns over public health (i.e. the "they- don't-want-your-business?-we-will-take-it principle)
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    I would be afraid that agencies that advertise that their girls are tested regularly would end up attracting clients (not merbites of course!) who would pressure the girls into bbfs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth
    Ziggy, tu as raison, les escortes ont autant le droit d'être protégées que les clients...

    Mais si elles étaient testées régulièrement, cela aurait nécessairement un impact sur elles, en tant que groupe, aussi puisqu'il y aurait moins de chances qu'une SP soit infectée sans le savoir et transmette le virus à plusieurs clients qui eux pourraient le transmettre à d'autres SPs, etc.
    Sans le moindre doute. Ceci dit, le premier envoi de ce fil de discussion suggère que les agences auraient intérêt à se faire de la publicité du fait que les escortes qu'ils représentent subissent des tests régulièrement.

    Je m'insurge contre cette pratique du simple fait que les agences ont trop de bonnes raisons pour déroger à leurs propres politiques. La fausse impression de sécurité qui découlerait de telles pratiques pourrait par ailleurs inciter les clients à adopter des comportements dangereux.

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