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What do the girls make when working for an agency?

SigForLife

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I am just curious, with what seems to be a high turnover rate, does anyone know what the typical outcall girl, working for an agency, makes per hour? Since the girls all handle the money, they know what the client is paying. Thus, I would assume the agency makes very little; however, at least in my mind, I would think the high turn over rate (or seemingly so) might be with regards to what agency is paying the highest percentage.

Also, I am curious if the girls wouldn't make more in the strip clubs? Anyone know what percentage the girls keep in the club? I know some girls here in the US pocketing 2-4k a night. Thanks for any insight.
 

jacep

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I was informed a few years ago that on a typical $160/hour session, the SP makes around $100. Of course I could be mistaken. Some agencies also charge the girl the driver's fee (normally around $15-$20) or it is included in the cut.

This is only what the SP told me when she gave me her contact number and asked me to contact her directly. She would then pocket the entire $160/hour as opposed to having to share it with the agency. I did take her up on the offer and contacted her directly.

However, when the agency had discounts, I was wondering what I should do since her price remained constant despite the agency's lower price special. If I contacted the agency, I would have gotten a lower price to see her and if I contacted her directly, I would have paid the regular price.

In the end, it didn't make a difference because during the agency specials, I was never available and didn't schedule anyone.
 

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SigForLife said:
Also, I am curious if the girls wouldn't make more in the strip clubs? Anyone know what percentage the girls keep in the club? I know some girls here in the US pocketing 2-4k a night. Thanks for any insight.

Dancers keep all the money they make from dances. They do have to pay a 'bar service' to the bar that varies from bar to bar. I think it's about $15-$25 per night. And I have seen dancers slip a bit of money to a doorman from time to time at some bars, maybe a tip to ensure a bit of privacy while in the booth. I have no idea what the deal is at FS clubs though.

Techman
 

hobby11

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celles qui gagnent le plus

ce sont les filles dans fs club ou club a gaffe comme elles aiment bien dire...
celles qui marchent bien font régulierement 1500- 2500 par jour...
 

Fly88

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Agency girls make between $100-$120 per hour. I've heard of some lower cost agency girls making $80. On average, girls will do about 4-6 hours worth of calls a night. Another 2 hours is wasted driving around. You do the math.

Obviously independent girls keep the full amount, but they are on the hook for driver fees, etc. Plus the time spent fielding calls, setting up appts, etc.

Strippers generally make $50-$100 per hour dancing. But on slow nights, they might go home with very little. In Montreal, clubs generally will not pay the girl at all. They only keep what they make doing dances.

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A Great Spinoff Topic

Maria Divina said:
First, i think the same of Tex about that.......The money your neighboor is doing is a private thing, it is well education to not ask, or talk about that....

Second, the things the most importants are the answers of those questions: Are the girls-women at the best place they can be for themselves??? Are they enjoying it very well??? Do they feel great???
Now that would be a great topic for a new thread!!!
 

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jimace said:
This is only what the SP told me when she gave me her contact number and asked me to contact her directly. She would then pocket the entire $160/hour as opposed to having to share it with the agency. I did take her up on the offer and contacted her directly.

Is it common for this to happen, a girl asking clients to contact her directly? It happened to me once, someone from Devilish gave me her email address. During the session I suspected she was high and she probably was, she never responded to my email.
 

Catalina Rose

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lol... I like the, "I suspespected she was high and she probably was". Good observation Conan. lol. Agency girls make about 110$ at the better agency's the rest of the money goes to pay the advertising, bookers, drivers and all the other aspects of running an agency. It's true quite a bit of time is lost driving around which is why some girls prefer to work at an incall however the clients are usually nicer and keep the girls for a long duration of time at outcall. I was asked for my information many times while working at xxxtase but for 60$ more I wasn't about to give up the ensured security I had with an agency. It really depends on the girl I suppose.
 
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Doc Holliday

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Some eastern european girls working for russian pimps in places such as Toronto might make $50 a day if they're lucky. They work very long hours (12 hrs+) and see as many johns as their pimps request them to & at the end of the day, they're given only $50. Let me state that this is a rarity in Canada & i've never heard of it happening in Mtl. Most of these EE girls are pretty much working against their will when they start their new 'profession', thinking they were coming to North America to work as models or other 'legit' jobs. Boy, are they in for a surprise! One girl a friend of mine fell for began her life as a prostitute within 2 hrs after arriving in Canada. She basically was a sex slave & most of her revenues would go straight to her 'benefactors'. A few years later & after several suicide attempts, this girl finally escaped this 'profession' and hopefully for good. I can't remember if she paid off her 'debt' or someone did it for her or if she simply ran away with someone & spent her life living in obscurity.

What would you do if you heard that this was also happening in Mtl? Would you denounce the profiteers, try to help the girl get out of this miserable situation, or simply look the other way? :confused:
 

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I'm with Tex on this one. I don't care what my dentist's profit from my payment is (after all his office expenses). He performs a service for me that I appreciate in times of need.

Same thing here. I don't care how the money is carved up, provided that the lady receives a fair share. The particulars? Well, who knows...and who cares?
 

Doc Holliday

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bumfie said:
I don't care how the money is carved up, provided that the lady receives a fair share. The particulars? Well, who knows...and who cares?

Let's say you see an sp from an agency & you two really hit it off. You give her $600 for her efforts, but since it's $600 (as opposed to half of that amount), you don't really feel like giving her a tip of appreciation. You discover that $300 of that amount will be collected by the agency. You don't really care that half of your hard-earned money goes to a pimp who's been sitting on his/her ass the whole time instead of a reasonable portion of the money going to the girl who did all the work? :confused:
 

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Just_Jay said:
Is it customary to tip for incall or outcall services?
Is there a rule of thumb as to the amount?
Yes for outcall, if she was nice and polite then ALWAYS tip... 20-40$ is a nice gesture, more means you had a really wondeful time.
 

z/m(Ret)

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Those with concerns over how much agency girls make can always bypass the pimp. This is something I've done repeatedly and I don't remember any SP having scruples accepting my offer to keep all the money to herself.

No wonder John won't allow me to register a handle on his board. :D
 

z/m(Ret)

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Karma said:
I believe that an independant has already set her price to what she wants [...]
Didn't you recently say that market discipline and only market discipline regulates escorts rates? How do you reconcile the contradiction?
 

jacep

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Just_Jay said:
Is it customary to tip for incall or outcall services?
Is there a rule of thumb as to the amount?

I used to always tip regardless of the service and people didn’t understand why. After receiving my first bad service, I then changed my policy when the service was below standard (no MSOG or leaving early or worst yet showing up late and leaving early or some other aspect).

It might seem silly but I later changed my policy to tip only agency girls about 10% if the service was good since indies generally get the entire amount after speaking with hobbyists.

I know that there are added costs to being an indie (advertising, transportation, etc.) but I don’t believe that they account for the sometimes over 30% that most agencies get from the hourly rate that I paid to the agency lady which is why I tipped agency girls more often than indies.

Also with indies and agency SPs, depending on whether it is the first time seeing them, I generally book 2, 3, or 4 hours and I find that generally SPs prefer longer appointments with of course the right client since it is less tiring for them and they make more money from the available time that they have to work which can be a tip in itself.

From a client’s perspective, I personally think that tips should be an exception and not a rule. If an indie expects an extra 10% or whatever amount, she can increase her rate by 10%.

I know that the tipping aspect of $20 feels nicer when it is received than increasing the hourly rate (because it is special) but I don’t like the apect of always expecting a tip (like some waiters expecting a 15% tip regardless of service or where some restaurants automatically tack on 15% tip to the bill).

This is why I will tip but only when everything is perfect (and my definition of perfect is not unattainable but doesn’t happen all the time).

Actually last time it happened was with a lady from Eleganza that I saw awhile ago but before that I don’t remember when it happened (which shows how rare it is). I repeat with 2 or 3 indies or agency girls now per month and see very few new agency girls or new indies which also might explain why tips for me are somewhat rare.

With indies, I’m a bit more critical on things such as the time that they show up (and of course the time that they leave). With agency girls, I give them some leighway on the time that they show up (and the time that they leave) since they might be late depending on traffic and their last appointment (and of course the booker which shouldn’t affect the girl’s tip). In terms of actual service when it comes to tipping, I judge both the same taking only into account that the indie gets all the money I’m giving her whereas the agency SP is only getting between part of it (depending on agency maybe 70%).

If there is chemistry between the SP and myself and the SP doesn’t mind seeing me again (I generally ask at the end of my encounters), I will generally repeat and I think that a repeat good customer is always better than a one time tip from a customer that will never be seen or heard from again especially for indies (since agency girls generally see whoever the booker scheduled them with and have reservations about refusing clients unless they are exceptionally bad/abusive since it means that they will probably lose money for the time which the client booked).

A repeat good customer is also good for the SP since there are less surprises and less uncomfortable situations for both parties over meeting someone “new”.
 
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Doc Holliday said:
Some eastern european girls working for russian pimps in places such as Toronto might make $50 a day if they're lucky. They work very long hours (12 hrs+) and see as many johns as their pimps request them to & at the end of the day, they're given only $50. Let me state that this is a rarity in Canada & i've never heard of it happening in Mtl. Most of these EE girls are pretty much working against their will when they start their new 'profession', thinking they were coming to North America to work as models or other 'legit' jobs. Boy, are they in for a surprise! One girl a friend of mine fell for began her life as a prostitute within 2 hrs after arriving in Canada. She basically was a sex slave & most of her revenues would go straight to her 'benefactors'. A few years later & after several suicide attempts, this girl finally escaped this 'profession' and hopefully for good. I can't remember if she paid off her 'debt' or someone did it for her or if she simply ran away with someone & spent her life living in obscurity.

What would you do if you heard that this was also happening in Mtl? Would you denounce the profiteers, try to help the girl get out of this miserable situation, or simply look the other way? :confused:

I think my responce should probally be a whole other thread, but this is sick. This is real and don't be fooled. Ever see that movie "Humen Trafficking"? with Donald Sutherland and Mira Sorvino. It is a true story about just this. Europian women brought to Canada on dancers visa's and forced to work as sex slaves to pay off there entry to canada.VERY INTERESTING
 

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Helene/karma is it true that you are the daughter of a famous montreal businessman and that you drove a ferrari when you were a teenager? That movie takes place in new jersey/new york not in canada.
 
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