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General Gonad

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I noticed that Devilish Escorts nudged their rates up to $180/hour this past week with no announcement:

http://www.devilishescorts.com/tabindex.aspx?PageID=rates

Is this a sign that demand is outstripping supply? Times are so good that they think it was time to move back up to $180/hour? Take note that Devilish was the first agency to drop rates to $160/hour so this is a big move on their part.

So how significant is this move by Devilish? It's probably not significant. My guess is that there is a two tier system developing among agencies in Montreal. Top agencies will be able to increase rates while the second tier agencies will keep on competing ferociously and offering discounts every chance they get.

Now we can debate what constitutes a top-tier agency. IMHO, there is only one premiere agency in Montreal and it is Eleganza Escorts. XXXtase comes close but it has slipped in the past few months mainly because Martin did not have time to devote to it. Devilish has a few gems but I can't put it in the top category because too many SPs who left that place told me the owners are slave drivers, forcing the ladies to work into the wee hours of the morning.

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P.S. Even though it is bad for most clients, I welcome higher rates. Many SPs have told me that even $20 or $40 an hour more makes a huge difference in deterring undesirable clients. I do not know if it does but it certainly discourages many of them from calling agencies or indies.
 

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General Gonad said:
IMHO, there is only one premiere agency in Montreal and it is Eleganza Escorts.

I totally agree with this. When you book with Eleganza, you know what you're going to get from each SP. A pretty girl with above average to mind blowing service.

Although each of the other agencies may have gems, it's really a crap shoot on what shows up at your door.
 
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Wow, I'm surprised to hear this has happened as well! Especially without an announcement made here.

I personally don't approve of the increase as I don't see any extra added value which would explain any increase. As you mentioned Eleganza and XXXtase, not only do they take your appointments by phone but John and Martin have always replied to every single PM I've ever sent, offer discounts for multiple hours or even inventive ideas from time to time. They always have pics updated (although Martin has some catching up to do now that he's back) and always seem to have girls that are genuinely happy working for them. I'm also a HUGE fan of the afternoon option they both have to offer.

All I think is going to happen is the more popular girls are still gonna get booked cause of their reputation but they are going to have an even harder time getting the "non-superstars" booked up at $180.
 

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All I think is going to happen is the more popular girls are still gonna get booked cause of their reputation but they are going to have an even harder time getting the "non-superstars" booked up at $180.

Agreed. Some SPs who can't command the higher rate will move to the $160 agencies.
 

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Some agencies have two rates VIP and regular, depending on the girl, maybe that would be a good thing for them ?
 

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An increase right when the tourist season is ending and winter is approaching? Timing seems to be off, you'd think an increase would come in the spring or summer. And why is primetime's rate still at $160?
 

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we are witnessing the broken business model, that is devilish, crumble before our eyes...

my last encounters with them were so fucked up i un-bookmarked them. they're not worth a "click."
 

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General Gonad said:
Take note that Devilish was the first agency to drop rates to $160/hour so this is a big move on their part.
Not so. Devilish dropped their rates in response to a number of other agencies already at that level, including, at least, CF, SD and Asservissante.

Odd that they'd take their rates up at a time when quite a few others are running regular specials below the $160 level.
 

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Oh glad too see that i'm not the only one who noticed the '' raise'' or should i say the regular price.

My concern here is that if they gonna still charge the extra 10 because your appointement is not in the downtown area . 180+10 = 190 !!! For the 10$ it's not big deal just that the other agency doesn't charge the extra.

Also very good point made by EVOLUTION about the agency replying to the our PM. Have send them a couple but never got a reply, so called them instead.

Shouldn't it be simplier for them to reply instead of us calling them for a simple question exemple for a status of a specific girl ( like amelia ) lol. Pretty sure that i'm not the only one here asking about her whereabout.
 

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Bucky said:
Some agencies have two rates VIP and regular, depending on the girl, maybe that would be a good thing for them ?

I am not a fan of this two rate policy. Either you hire top-notch ladies like John of Eleganza and set one rate or don't bother hiring them at all. I prefer what Martin of XXXtase does: for some ladies he sets a 2 hour minimum. I think this makes more sense than having a VIP rate and a standard rate. Finally, no matter who they are, all agencies should offer discounts for multiple hours.

GG
 

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rumpleforeskiin said:
Not so. Devilish dropped their rates in response to a number of other agencies already at that level, including, at least, CF, SD and Asservissante....

Actually what GG posted is correct. The other agencies rates were already at $160, they did not drop them to that level. Devilish did drop their rates to match their competition. So that does indeed make them the first agency to drop their rates, not necessarily the first agency to charge that rate.

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Montreal is quickly losing it's appeal with rising agency rates and the falling dollar, it may not be worth it for guys in the US to visit anymore.
 

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thegreatwalooo said:
Montreal is quickly losing it's appeal with rising agency rates and the falling dollar, it may not be worth it for guys in the US to visit anymore.

The typical US businessman doesn't care about the rising Canadian dollar or higher agency rates. For these guys, this is peanuts and Montreal still offers them a selection of hotties that they couldn't dream of finding anywhere else in North America.:cool:

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General Gonad said:
I am not a fan of this two rate policy
You don't like it? How about the girls who are working at the lower rate? I've wondered how they feel about being told that they're not worth as much as some of the other girls working under the same "roof."
 

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rumpleforeskiin said:
You don't like it? How about the girls who are working at the lower rate? I've wondered how they feel about being told that they're not worth as much as some of the other girls working under the same "roof."

It is irrelevant what these ladies think since they accepted this arrangement. I just think it is better to maintain high standards for the ladies you're hiring and keep a one rate policy. If there is too much of a discrepancy between the ladies at your agency, then you will never be considered a top-tier agency.

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General Gonad said:
The typical US businessman doesn't care about the rising Canadian dollar or higher agency rates. For these guys, this is peanuts and Montreal still offers them a selection of hotties that they couldn't dream of finding anywhere else in North America.:cool:

GG

I never said it had anything to do with the typical business man. I am a typical US business man and I do care. I agree that we really cant find the hotties that Montreal has to offer, but the airfare, hotel, food, etc. to travel there may not be worth it anymore.
 

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thegreatwalooo said:
I never said it had anything to do with the typical business man. I am a typical US business man and I do care. I agree that we really cant find the hotties that Montreal has to offer, but the airfare, hotel, food, etc. to travel there may not be worth it anymore.


I still read the board(obviously), but gave up Montreal after about 30 trips back in May 2006. No desire to return at this point. It is fun, but there are better places out there for the money. Been to Thailand twice this year and booking my next trip today that I will take in a few months from now.

After a while, you just don't want to deal with strippers that can't count songs, agencies with no respect for customers(not saying Develish, just in general), and people that don't realize that good treatment brings back repeat business.

I find Asia or Thailand to be more respectful to people. There are some greedy people here and there, but when you get "ripped off" you end up paying $60 for full service over the course of an undefined time that may be 1 or more hours. You choose the girls yourself also in person.

Other than the bitch of a plane ride, Thailand is great.

Just my opinion and observation.
 

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General Gonad said:
The typical US businessman doesn't care about the rising Canadian dollar or higher agency rates.

thegreatwalooo said:
I am a typical US business man and I do care.

Oh, those unsupported absolute statements. Make enough of them and eventually one of them will bite you. BTW, I happen to be a US businessman as well and, like thegreatwaloo, I care.
 

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rumpleforeskiin said:
Oh, those unsupported absolute statements. Make enough of them and eventually one of them will bite you. BTW, I happen to be a US businessman as well and, like thegreatwaloo, I care.

The typical U.S. businessman who comes to Montreal often has a lot more money than the guys on Merb. They lurk here, get some info and make the call. They don't care about the Canadian dollar except if it affects their business. Most of them export here so they're glad the U.S. dollar is sinking relative to our currency.

U.S. members here should stop and analyze what it all means in terms of actual impact. I mean, even if you're total trip went up by 20% because of the drop in the U.S. dollar, which is a high figure, it really isn't the end of the world. You're still seeing some of the hottest GFE ladies in North America at ridiculously low rates.

If you're bitching about the fluctuation in your currency, maybe it's time to find another hobby. Perhaps chess or bowling.:rolleyes:

GG
 

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General Gonad said:
The typical U.S. businessman who comes to Montreal often has a lot more money than the guys on Merb. They lurk here, get some info and make the call.
Good, GG. You're getting it. Often, but not always. And, hence, not an absolute statement. (Maybe he can be educated.)

And, of course, there is a vast disparity of income right here on merb. I know guys who make a fortune and some who don't.
 
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