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    Who Is Harvey Goldberg?

    The loony may be rising, but your freedom seems to be falling. It sounds like Harvey Goldberg's concept of free speech pretty much means only allowing speech that he agrees with. Is Canada turning into another fascist regime?
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    I did not speak out;
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    When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;
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    When they came for me,
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    Let's hope that freedom does not disappear from Canada, which is currently the only country in North America where true freedom does exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelcairo
    Let's hope that freedom does not disappear from Canada, which is currently the only country in North America where true freedom does exist.
    Sorry, socialism is not true freedom.

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    Canada, socialist - eh?

    So Canada, leaded by one of the closest political friends of George Bush is a socialist country!!! Are you smarter than a fifth grader in political science? Unless you consider socialist anyone who would oppose the KKK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill
    Are you smarter than a fifth grader in political science? Unless you consider socialist anyone who would oppose the KKK...
    Your question, I assume, is rhetorical. Your supposition is most likely accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill
    So Canada, leaded by one of the closest political friends of George Bush is a socialist country!!! Are you smarter than a fifth grader in political science? Unless you consider socialist anyone who would oppose the KKK...
    Do you work and pay taxes? Are you familiar with your health system?

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    Beautydigger>>>> how do you describe a free country? ...and is this free country that you envision an ideal country? This is a sincere question.

    Who is responsible to take care of the weakest, poorest members of a country?

    Does a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness not include health care? How can one have a right to life without health care?

    What about free speech? If we have a guarantee to freedom of expression, what about hate mongering?

    Does true freedom exist other than in theory? Can it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill
    So Canada, leaded by one of the closest political friends of George Bush is a socialist country!!! Are you smarter than a fifth grader in political science? Unless you consider socialist anyone who would oppose the KKK...
    I quoted a holocaust warning and you compare me to the KKK? Then your defense is association with Bush. Talk about 5th grade comprehension!!! If that’s all you got why even post? Next you will find a misspelled word and make a big deal of that. Please stay out of this and let me debate with naughty lady who at least can present a logical case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtylady
    Beautydigger>>>> how do you describe a free country? ...and is this free country that you envision an ideal country? This is a sincere question.
    In Beautydigger's world, a free country is one in which the people as a whole bear no responsibility for the well being of others. Corporations are free to pollute at will. Your health, education, and well-being are your responsibility alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naughtylady
    Beautydigger>>>> how do you describe a free country? ...and is this free country that you envision an ideal country? This is a sincere question.

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    A country where a government doesn’t burn books, witch the Canadian government does.
    A country where a government doesn’t censor the internet, most notably China and Canada. Basically, all you have to do is study the USA’s Bill of Rights and see if any other country can match those freedoms. I’ll save you the trouble, they can not.
    Of course, the US is not an ideal country yet. We are a very young nation with a long way to go. The biggest problems come from foreign entanglements and those trying to take away our freedoms as proclaimed by our founding fathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumpleforeskiin
    In Beautydigger's world, a free country is one in which the people as a whole bear no responsibility for the well being of others.
    The facts are reggie, the US has helped more people on this planet with aid than all combined. And when WWIII breaks out, will protect Canadian citizens who have chosen not to have a millitary.

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    You are trying to give lessons regarding freedom of speech and you ask me to get out of the debate... Who told you that Canada censors the internet? Don't believe everything that these radio show hosts from the extreme right will tell you, you know...

    By the way, your wonderful President vetoed a Law that would have given access to medicare to more American children in need of healthcare services. And at the same time, this same President is asking for billions and billions of addtionnal dollars for the war in Irak.

    Your wonderful President (you probably have a poster of him and Cheney in your bedroom, right?) is ruining your economy. Why do you think the Canadian dollar has gained more than 25% on the US currency in less than a year? Do these fascists radio show hosts discuss this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beautydigger
    The facts are reggie, the US has helped more people on this planet with aid than all combined. And when WWIII breaks out, will protect Canadian citizens who have chosen not to have a millitary.
    Which hardly balances out the crimes the U.S. and their client states have been perpetrating for the longest time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy Montana
    Which hardly balances out the crimes the U.S. and their client states have been perpetrating for the longest time.
    Western society is morally bankrupt. There is an international elaborate cult network which controls politics, information and culture. Most leaders are dupes or traitors. The "Intelligentsia" has been bribed while the public is distracted and lives in a fool's paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beautydigger
    Western society is morally bankrupt.
    Not entirely true. Most western nations have such things as national health care, recognizing the responsibility a modern society has to look out for each other. I can think of only one significant western society in which medicine is viewed primarily as a profit center, which would certainly qualify it as morally bankrupt.

    Quote Originally Posted by beautydigger
    There is an international elaborate cult network which controls politics, information and culture. Most leaders are dupes or traitors. The "Intelligentsia" has been bribed while the public is distracted and lives in a fool's paradise.
    I assume you're referring to the notorious international criminals, the Bush-Cheney gang and their dupes around the world who permit the gang's corporate henchman to exploit their countries' natural resources or risk invasion, no?
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