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PETA asks Ben & Jerry's to use breast milk

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MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Ice cream made from breast milk? That's what the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to consider making.

The Virginia-based nonprofit group sent a letter to company co-founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield on Tuesday asking them to use human breast milk instead of cow's milk in their products.

PETA said the health of consumers and cows would benefit from the switch.

Ben & Jerry's spokesman Rob Michalak said the company applauds PETA's creative approach to bring attention to an issue, but believes that a mother's milk is best used by a child.

Information from: The Times Argus, http://www.timesargus.com/
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mass1965 said:
PETA asks Ben & Jerry's to use breast milk

19 hours ago

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — Ice cream made from breast milk? That's what the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants Ben & Jerry's Homemade Ice Cream to consider making.

The Virginia-based nonprofit group sent a letter to company co-founders Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield on Tuesday asking them to use human breast milk instead of cow's milk in their products.

PETA said the health of consumers and cows would benefit from the switch.

Ben & Jerry's spokesman Rob Michalak said the company applauds PETA's creative approach to bring attention to an issue, but believes that a mother's milk is best used by a child.

Information from: The Times Argus, http://www.timesargus.com/
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Given that Ben & Jerry's replied the thread title should be speaking to lunatics.
 

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Ben and Jerry's

Ben & Jerry's is a Vermont based ice cream business and they are well known supporters of left wing liberal causes, which is likely why PETA targeted them rather than Haagen Daaz. Of course, Ben & Jerry's response should have been to ignore the letter, but Ben & Jerry's marketing department knows that any publicity, especially free publicity, is a good thing when you are selling ice cream in the "off season."

By the ways, I love Ben & Jerry's ice cream, especially their new "Imagine World Peace" flavor.
 

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EagerBeaver said:
Ben & Jerry's is a Vermont based ice cream business and they are well known supporters of left wing liberal causes, which is likely why PETA targeted them rather than Haagen Daaz. Of course, Ben & Jerry's response should have been to ignore the letter, but Ben & Jerry's marketing department knows that any publicity, especially free publicity, is a good thing when you are selling ice cream in the "off season."

By the ways, I love Ben & Jerry's ice cream, especially their new "Imagine World Peace" flavor.

I remember their original location in Burlington. Nice success story.
 

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Potential names for their new breast-milk based flavor (do we need a poll):

Ben & Jerry's Very Breast
Titty-Gritty
Nitty-Titty
Breast Milk & Cookies
Thanks for the Mamaries
Triple Nipple
Malted Mommy Milk and Macadamia Madness

I'm in favor... but what will this do to the already high prices! :eek:

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If that suggestion would have been made to Baskin Robbins back 50 years ago, Burt Baskin might have been saved from a heart attack at 54 years old in 1967.

Then again, even though I am a strong supporter of breastfeeding for newborns and I do agree that it is much healthier for a human due to the size contain in the human milk proteins vs cow milk, I don't think I would ever feel comfortable eating (or drinking) breast milk. Pretty much the same as buying my meat/poultry/fish already prepared and packaged at the grocery store vs killing the cow/chicken/fish in the preparation. Something about it that doesn't feel right.
 

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Lilly,

That's apart from the practical issue of who would be supplying all of the breast milk needed to manufacture all of these new flavors like "Lactation Sensation." Cows do not sell their milk to Ben and Jerry. The milk is taken from them. Whose breast milk would be taken to produce mass quantities of this new ice cream?
 

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Lilly,

That's apart from the practical issue of who would be supplying all of the breast milk needed to manufacture all of these new flavors like "Lactation Sensation." Cows do not sell their milk to Ben and Jerry. The milk is taken from them. Whose breast milk would be taken to produce mass quantities of this new ice cream?

You are right, but then again, there would surely be some women willing to do it for the $ (after all, there are Amateur Porn Sites for lactation fetish). Which brings me to the health issue, which I didn't want to mention and which we can have with cows also (just thinking of the Mad Cow dissease) but HIV is something that is transmissible through breast milk. Only, it is much easier to control where your cows are going and who they are having sex with than control the health and sex partners of your human "employees".

Back a few hundred years ago, the French had "nourrices" for the kids who were ladies who would spend their lives breastfeeding the noble's kids and raising them. I just don't think it is something that could be done today.
 
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Disease transfer is a concern, but I would hope that any milk being sold to the public is pasteurized.

Incidentally are the cows they get milk from pregnant or just gave birth, or do they give them chemicals/hormones to lactate without giving birth?
 

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Hey, I think we've just identified a niche market.

I'd love to invest in such a venture and sell to the PETA freaks and guys with sex fetishes, if I believed that you could produce breast milk in sufficient quantity.


As an aside, in Quebec "The [transfer] by a person of a part or product of his body shall be gratuitous; [...]" (24, CcQ). So any women willing to participate will have to donate their milk to my company.

Volunteers can PM me to set up meetings where I'll start building my supply.
 

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Maria Divina said:
I know that a woman won't stop to produce milk as long as she will keeping to have her milk going out her body.....

The demand will assure the offer...
Hey Maria Divine,

Stop it...you're getting me excited...lol.

Ummm,

Korbie-kins
 

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EagerBeaver said:
Ben & Jerry's is a Vermont based ice cream business and they are well known supporters of left wing liberal causes, which is likely why PETA targeted them rather than Haagen Daaz.

They were bought out by Unilever years ago. I think they were targeted because they are a well regarded brand.
 

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pinkworm said:
They were bought out by Unilever years ago. I think they were targeted because they are a well regarded brand.

Pinkworm,

The PETA letter was sent to the founders of Ben & Jerry, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, not to Unilever. I assume you read the article this thread is based on? This made news in Vermont because it was sent to Ben & Jerry. Ben & Jerry have always been identified with their support of left wing political causes, it's even obvious from the names of the flavors of their ice creams e.g. "Imagine Whirled Peace". It also happens to be that they are a well regarded brand, but so is Haagen Daz and Breyers and any number of others.
 
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PETA are a bunch of idiots. They should hook Pamela Anderson up to a milking machine for publicity. I think she deserves it, the dumb b...h.
They could call the flavour 'Saline Silicon Surprise"

Here's some nice hot sauce for real PETA fans. People Eating Tasty Animals.

http://www.mohotta.com/product/1357/5

:D

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I saw a documentary about PETA on HBO and I don't think they are idiots. I definitely disagree with a lot of what they have to say, but I think society does need to know more about what is on their plate and how it gets there. Maybe we would be better off eating meat only once or twice a week. The industrialization of livestock has brought down the price on so many products that I wonder if we consume them out of necessity or convenience.

As for animal furs and such, its completely deplorable. The fact that animals are still being killed for things we can produce through cheaper alternative means is deplorable.
 

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rollingstone said:
I saw a documentary about PETA on HBO and I don't think they are idiots. I definitely disagree with a lot of what they have to say, but I think society does need to know more about what is on their plate and how it gets there. Maybe we would be better off eating meat only once or twice a week. The industrialization of livestock has brought down the price on so many products that I wonder if we consume them out of necessity or convenience.

As for animal furs and such, its completely deplorable. The fact that animals are still being killed for things we can produce through cheaper alternative means is deplorable.

Maybe I was a bit harsh calling them idiots. Maybe zealots or radicals would be more appropriate. I seriously doubt that their primary celebrity spokespeople never touch meat or are totally vegan. But hey, it's easy publicity for a failing career.

Considering the price of a decent steak, either in a restaurant or grocery store, I would hardly call it cheap convenience food. And I much prefer to get my protein the natural way instead of from some pill or supplement.

As for animal furs and other products such as leather, well if you consider the environmental costs of the synthetic replacements I wonder if animal products aren't better for the environment and the future of mankind. I for one have no intention to start wearing plastic shoes or a pleather jacket.

Humans are the top of the foodchain and I see no reason to apologize for that. I do feel that food animals should be raised and slaughtered as humanely as possible but I don't believe we should have a bill of rights for pets and other insane ideas that PETA routinely comes up with.

Maybe they would be taken a bit more seriously if they didn't go off the deep edge so often.

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EagerBeaver said:
The PETA letter was sent to the founders of Ben & Jerry, Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, not to Unilever. I assume you read the article this thread is based on? This made news in Vermont because it was sent to Ben & Jerry. Ben & Jerry have always been identified with their support of left wing political causes, it's even obvious from the names of the flavors of their ice creams e.g. "Imagine Whirled Peace".

I did not read that article, but this one. What is Ben & Jerry supposed to do, since the company is owned by Unilever? It is an obvious publicity stunt. Just because Ben & Jerry have supported left wing political causes does not mean they support all left wing political causes.
 

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rollingstone said:
I saw a documentary about PETA on HBO and I don't think they are idiots. I definitely disagree with a lot of what they have to say, but I think society does need to know more about what is on their plate and how it gets there. Maybe we would be better off eating meat only once or twice a week. The industrialization of livestock has brought down the price on so many products that I wonder if we consume them out of necessity or convenience.

As for animal furs and such, its completely deplorable. The fact that animals are still being killed for things we can produce through cheaper alternative means is deplorable.

RS, your post is interesting and thought provoking. It raises the larger issue of our food supply and what happens if and when it gets depleted?

This is the very issue of the classic, thought provoking, futuristic 1973 science fiction film "Soylent Green", starring Charlton Heston. It's a film set in a future when the food supply for an overpopulated society has become so depleted that everyone is fed "Soylent Green." The question of what exactly is "Soylent Green" resonates throughout the movie, until it is finally answered at the end through the aggressive investigative efforts of the Charlton Heston character, who utters the legendary line, "Soylent Green is___________!" at the end of the film. (I won't spoil it for those who have not seen the film, but it ranks up there with the classic one liners in film history, and it is as immortal as Heston's equally classic "get your hands off of me, you damn dirty stinking ape!", from the original 1968 "Planet of the Apes").

RS, given your concerns (which are certainly valid concerns we all should have), and the larger issue of the quality and healthiness of our food supply, I highly recommend that you rent the DVD of "Soylent Green." It's a thought provoking, largely underrated science fiction film.
 
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