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    Dirty Money.... A CNBC special series on High end prostitution....

    On tonight!

    10pm eastern....should be entertaining...

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/26869953


    Banger
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    Thanks for reminding I ment to watch that... looks VERY interesting..

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    it looks like a fluff piece on the industry, which is surprising

    it makes it all look like the movie Pretty Woman

    usually, the media paints it all with doom n' gloom (human trafficking, SW, etc.)

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    I would like to see this show but I do not have cnbc, is it possible to watch it online and how?

    Maria
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault
    Question: Will you guys who voted for Obama still support him if he names some nitwit feminist as Attorney General and she tries to influence the states to pass prostitution laws like they have in Sweden?
    Hey Capt,

    The real question is: why are you guys who opposed him looking for battles over things that have not happened. Answer: sour grapes. Come on Capt, there will be plenty to argue and complain about after the inauguration. So coerce another woman for sex by dangling the promise of an exit visa and forget about this until January 20.

    And why is a feminist necessarily a "nitwit"????? That's right, Conservatives believe in family values...aka...cooking, cleaning, and the man's conjugal rights.

    Gotcha...lol,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Maria
    I would like to see this show but I do not have cnbc, is it possible to watch it online and how?

    Maria
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    Maria,

    Check banger's link.

    The website practically has videos of the entire show. You may not even need to watch it on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault
    I have stated in another thread that I wish the man well and I respect him, but I haven't taken a pledge to not criticize him and I don't intend to do so now.

    It's not hard to show that Obama might well be sympathetic to prohibitionist policies on prostitution. For example, he was quoted on the issue on the liberal website Daily Kos:


    ...In August 2008, Southern California Pastor Rick Warren interviewed McCain and Obama in a Candidates’ Summit. Here’s an exchange between Obama and Warren during that Summit where Senator Obama clarifies the intimate connection between prostitution and trafficking:
    WARREN: OK. Another issue, the third largest and the fastest growing criminal industry in the world is human trafficking. $32 billion a year. A lot of people don't know that there are about 27 million people living in slavery right now. More of them in sex trafficking than any others. How do we speak out and how do you plan to do something about that?
    OBAMA: This has to be a top priority and this is an area where we've already seen bipartisan agreement on this issue. What we have to do is to create better, more effective tools for prosecuting those who are engaging in human trafficking and we have to do that within our country. Sadly, there are thousands who are trapped in various forms of enslavement, here in our country. Oftentimes young women who are caught up in prostitution...
    Sorry, I was being too kind . I can think of much more descriptive terms for feminists, but I am a gentleman and I don't want to offend the ladies (and some guys like yourself) on this forum who naively describe themselves as "feminists" without fully understanding the threat that feminism poses to human freedom.

    Also, I don't describe myself as a "conservative" especially when it comes to social values. I am just as opposed to the views of nitwit, bible-thumping, "family values" religious types as I am to the views of feminists. If you must put a label on my political views, "libertarian" will do fine.
    Hello Capt,

    Okay, "Libertarian". I have no idea how they feel about women except for your indications about feminism. However, this quote from Obama: "it is a debasement of our common humanity", seems to indicate disfavor of prostitution and human trafficking, and certainly does not seem to be in favor of legalizing something he calls a "debasement."

    Cheers,

    Korbel
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault
    I guess CNBC knows they have a different audience than other networks that have done prostitution stories recently.
    The poll that is attached to the site has 80/20 in favor of de-criminalzation of prostitution. This is the financial industry, male dominated....excess money....looking for outlets for stress relief!

    The host Melissa Frances even says in a promo...."let's have some fun...."


    "This November San Francisco residents voted against decriminalizing prostitution. “Proposition K” would have eliminated the power of local law enforcement officers to go after prostitutes. In a live-and-let-live town, where medical marijuana clubs do business next to grocery stores, prostitutes would have been able to walk the streets without fear of arrest." - attached to the poll.
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    Obama cannot be seen as legalizing prostitution, even if he secretly supports it.

    That may work in San Francisco, where Prop K got 40+%, even though it lost.

    But that would be political suicide.

    When people think of prostitution, they think of "pimps and hos." (SWs)

    Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

    A political candidate simply doesn't have time to sit there and explain the differences between SWs and SPs, and if he even goes there, he's iced himself.

    No, he can only say some platitudes about demonizing human traffickers, and offering assistance to young women ... if he hopes to get elected, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptRenault
    I'm watching the show right now and it's surprisingly fair, accurate and non-judgemental in tone. Certainly the best prostitution documentary that I've seen on TV. I'm certainly not learning anything that I didn't already know, but it's still a good show. And damn, Amanda Brooks, that blonde with the black glasses who wrote the book The Internet Escort's Handbook is seriously hot.
    I agree Capt. but I dont like Amanda....she says that 50% of reviews are exaggerated....and shes anti review boards....obviously she hasnt read my reviews!!

    Banger
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    Quote Originally Posted by banger
    I agree Capt. but I dont like Amanda....she says that 50% of reviews are exaggerated....and shes anti review boards....obviously she hasnt read my reviews!!

    Banger
    Hello all,

    I caught up to this show late, but what I have seen makes the "high end" sex industry sound like a positive and profitable fantasy where women are in control of their lives. If this is taken as representative of all prostitution then I think a lot of young ladies will be shooting for something that doesn't have room for all of them, and ending up somewhere much worse that has room for them all.

    Deceptive,

    Korbel
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    as capt renault pointed out, i don't think young ladies will be watching this

    i don't know of too many chicks who watch cnbc

    probably older, more mature women who may want to be entrepreneurial, if anything at all

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    I still dont understand how its legal for a man and woman to have sex, get paid and film it to sell to the public(PORN)....but illegal when a man and woman have sex in private and get paid???

    I wonder what the % distribution of the high end market relative to the mid and low in terms of market capitalization??
    I bet its a small number compared to the overall...

    They mention TER in the show. Wow 1 million hits a day!

    Banger
    The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes.

    Marcel Proust

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    Quote Originally Posted by banger
    I still dont understand how its legal for a man and woman to have sex, get paid and film it to sell to the public(PORN)....but illegal when a man and woman have sex in private and get paid???
    I saw a documentary on porn in the US a very long time ago. If I recall correctly, porn producers had to keep their filming locations secret because while the movies themselves were protected by freedom of speech, the police would arrest people on the set under prostitution laws. This changed after a legal challenge used boxing as an example. The argument was that it would be illegal for guys to have a fight. But if you get a ring, a referee and spectators, suddenly its legal. They said that under the same concept porn actors were not guilty of prostitution. There was more detail on the show, but it was long ago and I can't remember it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver_kloseoff
    so an agency owner is actually what then???????????????-agancy charges 180/hr and girl gets only 100 so the otehr $80 is administratvie fees which go to charity and not to help this person live a lavish lifestyle.


    and an escort is actually a woman for companionship and the dfk gfe means what again

    oliver
    sorry, i meant street pimps and ho`s

    most people equate prostitution with street prostitution

    they automatically assume that any prostitution will involve drugs, cars driving up at all hours of the night, used condoms thrown all over your yard, sex in public, child prostitution, etc.

    i think that most people don`t have a problem with prostitution itself, but don`t want to vote to legalize it for fear of all the surrounding problems

    if presented with a regulated option, they do, in fact, vote for it. such is the case with Nevada, where brothels have not been voted out for decades

    i.e. Dennis Hof of moonlight bunny ranch is a legal pimp (a jerk, imo, but a legal one)
    Last edited by bond_james_bond; 11-12-2008 at 09:47 AM.

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