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    The late Oliver Kloseoff...

    The late Oliver Kloseoff...

    Re: Give posters the benefit of the doubt

    Just a quick comment regarding the death of Oliver Kloseoff, who was recently banned permanently .... once again.

    I won't get into the facts of the banning. There are two sides to every dispute, and once again this dispute is no exception.

    However I do think it would pay to think twice about banning someone who, for all his faults, is simply one of the most entertaining and informative hobbyists around.

    I for one visit the blue board on a regular basis for no other reason than to read what Oliver is up to. And banning Oliver will over the long term only serve to steer more Merb traffic there.

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    Of course Oliver is not alone. The list of banned Merbites who post regularly on the blue board and in the Devilish board includes (IMHO) all of the most interesting posters around: Corleone, JMB, GG, Beauty Digger (how can I stick up for that guy? --- but he provides great laughs) and Hal the John. Coco des Iles simply disappeared, but he was pretty good too.

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    I won't deny Merb's strengths; the non-review threads, the great PM system and the advertiser thread (no kidding) that shows who is on tonight, are very useful.

    But there is now no question, that Merb is coming close to banning a critcal mass of interested hobbyists... and that process could eventually hamper the boards ability to remain the top forum in town.

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    What is the problem - if you find him entertaining you know where to find him. MERB's traffic and existence
    does not depend on any one individual...it does not matter to us one bit.
    Our Mod team did not find his arrogance and insulting behavior to be entertaining.
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    The late Oliver Kloseoff...Part II

    The late Oliver Kloseoff...

    Quote Originally Posted by NYClimber

    Re: Give posters the benefit of the doubt

    Just a quick comment regarding the death of Oliver Kloseoff, who was recently banned permanently .... once again.

    I won't get into the facts of the banning. There are two sides to every dispute, and once again this dispute is no exception.

    However I do think it would pay to think twice about banning someone who, for all his faults, is simply one of the most entertaining and informative hobbyists around.

    I for one visit the blue board on a regular basis for no other reason than to read what Oliver is up to. And banning Oliver will over the long term only serve to steer more Merb traffic there.

    *****

    Of course Oliver is not alone. The list of banned Merbites who post regularly on the blue board and in the Devilish board includes (IMHO) all of the most interesting posters around: Corleone, JMB, GG, Beauty Digger (how can I stick up for that guy? --- but he provides great laughs) and Hal the John. Coco des Iles simply disappeared, but he was pretty good too.

    ****

    I won't deny Merb's strengths; the non-review threads, the great PM system and the advertiser thread (no kidding) that shows who is on tonight, are very useful.

    But there is now no question, that Merb is coming close to banning a critcal mass of interested hobbyists... and that process could eventually hamper the boards ability to remain the top forum in town.

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    What is the problem - if you find him entertaining you know where to find him. MERB's traffic and existence
    does not depend on any one individual...it does not matter to us one bit.
    Our Mod team did not find his arrogance and insulting behavior to be entertaining.
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    Well...for Merb*, there is both a problem and an opportunity.

    The potential problem for Merb is simple...if your Mods, by banning interesting and contraversial posters, directs traffic elsewhere, over the long terrm this will cut into Merb readership and hence profits.

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    The opportunity is simple...you have tons of free content, a lot of it quite good, at your disposal...

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    Ben

    *Sorry for starting this new thread, I could not post in the other thread for some reason....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonnobalia
    The late Oliver Kloseoff...



    Fed,

    Well...for Merb*, there is both a problem and an opportunity.

    The potential problem for Merb is simple...if your Mods, by banning interesting and contraversial posters, directs traffic elsewhere, over the long terrm this will cut into Merb readership and hence profits.

    ****

    The opportunity is simple...you have tons of free content, a lot of it quite good, at your disposal...

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    Ben

    *Sorry for starting this new thread, I could not post in the other thread for some reason....
    It does not matter to us at all..the internet is like a revolving door
    lots of people always coming and going all the time..some one said the same thing when
    Oliver was banned before. It was Oliver who decided to come back. We did not go looking for him. There are roughly 4 or 5 boards out there that are copycats of MERB/TERB/PERB ya know.
    "Oh, so they have internet on computers now!" - Homer J.

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