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Fred Zed

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Following is copy of message I received recently:
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I am an independet based out of Montreal who travels to Toronto back and forth. I have a few years experience doing my own security background checks when I met a new gentleman but I made one silly exception that could have cost me very dearly.

On Monday, Dec. 8th, I accepted a last-minute appointment over the phone (which I never, ever do!) with a gentleman who claimed to be 36. My site is explicit about my preferences over meeting slightly older gentlemen.

During our telephone conversation, I asked a few questions that I thought were pertinent such as his age and background as he had a bit of an accent. He told me he was of Korean descent. Foolishly, I decided to meet him as I know that gentlemen of Asian origin/background are usually gentle, polite men.

When the guy got to my downtown hotel and I looked through the peephole, he was wearing a baseball cap which should have given me the first clue something was not on the up and up...usually people wearing baseball caps are trying to avoid having their faces being caught by security cameras.

I let him in. He introduced himself. He said his name was Steven and he certainly looked way younger than 36...more like early 26??? He is between 5`10"/6`, slender but well-built and is probably a swimmer or practices sports as he has an athletic body. His hair is short and dark-brown (black), sort of spiky and combed forward, his eyes small and very slanty, his teeth smallish and not too straight. I am going through such pains with the description so he may be recognized before he is inside your room!!!

He seemed quite OK and asked to take a shower. He was dressed like a university student and when he came out the shower, he had folded his clothes in a way so as to hide a videocam he was surely going to use to record the whole session...

I found it strange that he would want to move the furniture around the room so as to block the way to the door...I mean, different clients have different quirks but this is a dead giveaway that something else is up...he also requested to have all the lights on as bright as possible.

It is only then that I spotted the videocam tucked away inside his bundle of clothes and asked him immediately to leave. I had my cellphone in hand to call one of my girlfriends and in one swift move, he took the cell phone off my hand and disabled the battery...it usually takes me a few tries to get that battery to slide off the phone so this guy has lots of practice!!!

Fortunately for me, once I realized I was totally at his mercy as he was holding my wrist in no uncertain way, I just asked him not to hurt me. He then proceeded to masturbate with a condom on so as not to leave evidence and when he was done, dressed up and excused himself for his behaviour. He then proceeded to "pay" me for my time with a credit card...I just asked him to leave which he did without major incident.

The most disturbing detail though is that in his haste, he forgot a roll of duct tape in the bathroom...I have it and was very careful to pick it up so as not to leave my finger prints on it. It is sealed in a ziploc bag!!!

Why would anyone bring duct tape to a session? I will let you draw your own conclussions!!!

I am certain this is not the first time this guy does this. He knew too many details of what providers usually do to be a novice at this.

I have more than learned my lesson in that it is just NOT WORTH IT EVER to let anyone in your room without proper verification of referrals, etc.

I was very lucky. It could have been a lot worse for me that day!

Please be careful. I do have his cell number for those who want it but I assume that he could have gotten rid of it!!!
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Thank you Fred have been concerned particularly about our SPs security !

I'm glad she escaped without serious injury. I often asked myself to defend aggression by customers violent, the SPs, do they have equipped somethings to defend when being attacked ? Eg. pepper-fog cost only 15$ will be very useful or this thing.
 
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Fred Zed said:
He then proceeded to "pay" me for my time with a credit card...I just asked him to leave which he did without major incident.

This is quite odd. Commit a crime, then try to pay using a credit card.
 

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Special K said:
This is quite odd. Commit a crime, then try to pay using a credit card.
either not very smart OR the card wasn't even his ?
 

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when i was indy, i already planned with my driver (an ex-doorman..) to go work in toronto...he would just have to watch tv in the room next to the suit i wanted to rent...i did the both way to work (with and without protection) and i had to pay my driver to wait me during the encounters i had...but damn, it was so much better in this way than without him (definitly worth the money he asked...)

I have been discussing the same thing if ever I go on tour out of the city. How did you find a body guard and how much did he charge (no offense, I would not trust the "muscles" of my drivers for a duty such as this... especially since...) Did he rent the room next door or did you? was it attached... boy I have so many questions... PM me
 

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CLAVIE said:
Thank you Fred have been concerned particularly about our SPs security !

I'm glad she escaped without serious injury. I often asked myself to defend aggression by customers violent, the SPs, do they have equipped somethings to defend when being attacked ? Eg. pepper-fog cost only 15$ will be very useful or this thing.

She did the right thing.
She stayed calm and then freaked post-action.
It was the same thing I did. and after two previous bad experiences where I fought back (seriously injuring the perps in the process, but not before I was seriously injured) I said don't move and stay calm.

Looks like she did the same thing and girls... if you are caught in a situation, where you see that you have no safe way out... please understand that you will be calm... you may not know it now, but when it happens... it is like surreal calmness that comes with knowing you are fucked. And it will save your life.
BUT after the perp has his jollies, depends on how you feel (please look this up in law stuff before proceeding) you can have your jollies too if the outcome of such actions are worth it... ie... you won't get caught. If you will get caught... just rely on karma. The guy did something horrible... Karma can be a bitch if she wants to.
And remember, not in front of the person, but once you are clear of the person, cry like you never cried before because you will want to.
But you can never let the aggressor see that he has hurt you. Then they are even happier. So cry when you are clear of them and go to a friend or if you are strong enough, a hospital, just try no to be alone in the aftermath... because it is not an easy one.

Stay safe girls!
 

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Kudos to the Mod for posting this warning to the SPs.

I love the SP ladies and the service they provide. Providers of Pleasure.
I can never understand why these sick fucks who call themselves "men" can only make themselves feel strong by bashing on defenseless gals. :mad:

BTW, duct tape is the preferred method of tying you up and covering your mouth so you can't scream for help. A very bad sign. :eek:

Any other hobbyists out there have an opinion?

BobKnob
 

Crappy_Lover

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Videocams and Laptops....

Another thing girls should be on the lookout for is laptops....

IMHO, they should always ask for the laptop to be turned away from 'action' or closed down... If the guy is very unhappy about it... LEAVE ASPAP!!!!

'Sex Rooms' should also be considered 'dangerous' as they are usually wired like there's no tomorrow...

You can also buy a camera detector on Ebay.... You'd be 'amazed' at the results.....................Specially at some Incalls and Massage parlors.......

Crappy
 

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You can also buy a camera detector on Ebay.... You'd be 'amazed' at the results.....................

Do those things really work? Have you tried them yourself?
 

larrywalker

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i have seen few porns in sites like slutload and pornhub where some guy secretly records a fuck session and post son the net...but he never mentiones it is with an SP...he usually says its with his gf or fuck buddy etc....but i guess this is what he does. maybe its not him...maybe there are more ppl like him.
 

naughtylady

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larrywalker said:
i have seen few porns in sites like slutload and pornhub where some guy secretly records a fuck session and post son the net...but he never mentiones it is with an SP...he usually says its with his gf or fuck buddy etc....but i guess this is what he does. maybe its not him...maybe there are more ppl like him.


I have made a few movies about 4 years ago. They were made to look like it was being filmed secretly when it wasn't at all. Not everything is what it seems. :p

That said, yes it is true that some clients will try to film the session secretly :mad:

Ronnie,
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lgna69xxx

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yes, sometimes things are "done with mirrors" so to speak



naughtylady said:
I have made a few movies about 4 years ago. They were made to look like it was being filmed secretly when it wasn't at all. Not everything is what it seems. :p

That said, yes it is true that some clients will try to film the session secretly :mad:

Ronnie,
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naughtylady

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No clue as to titles they were for an amateur porn site.
I do not think the had titles other than perhaps young man with older woman or something like that.

Ronnie,
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leenco12

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This is quite odd. Commit a crime, then try to pay using a credit card.

when i was indy, i already planned with my driver (an ex-doorman..) to go work in toronto...he would just have to watch tv in the room next to the suit i wanted to rent...i did the both way to work (with and without protection) and i had to pay my driver to wait me during the encounters i had...but damn, it was so much better in this way than without him (definitly worth the money he asked...)
 
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