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    New Norway law bans buying of sex

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7806760.stm

    A new law has come into force in Norway making the purchase of sex illegal.

    Norwegian citizens caught paying for prostitutes at home or abroad could face a hefty fine or a six-month prison sentence, authorities say.
    So, to get this straight, Norway thinks it is 'ok' to support the war in Iraq, rampantly kill species in danger of becoming extinct (whales), but buying a little nookie on the side is 'bad'. Nice place. Bloody vikings.
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    I've had several conversations with Norwegians about this, particularly those visiting Germany for the hobby.

    Yes, if proven that they were indulging in this practice overseas they can be arrested at home. It can be a means of blackmailing someone, if one were so inclined.

    You can be sure that a lot of Norwegians overseas are going to try to pass themselves off as Swedish or Danish.

    Blame this on the strong feminists in their government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackyo8193
    Blame this on the strong feminists in their government.

    Interesting comment, given that many modern feminists actually support women in their choice to be sex workers. Could it not be fundamentalist religious jerks?
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    According to my Norwegian...

    Quote Originally Posted by YouVantOption
    Interesting comment, given that many modern feminists actually support women in their choice to be sex workers. Could it not be fundamentalist religious jerks?
    ... friends, its because the feminists consider paid sex to be violence towards women.

    I have read that in Sweden they take the same point of view. Whats weird there is that women can advertise their services and aren't arrested. Any customers who avail of these services though are automatically considered to be breaking the law.

    I don't know though if they take the same extreme point of view that they do in Norway in pursuing their citizens overseas.

    In other countries, Germany, for example, feminists take the point of view that women should be able to determine what they do with their bodies. If they want to sell sex services, that is fine... so long as they derive all of the benefits from it. D. h. pimping is illegal since there is someone else who is taking advantage of her.

    There is a small town, Dierdorf, between Bonn and Frankfurt which has a pretty good brothel. The mayor, I've been told, is a diehard feminist and personally encouraged the establishment of the brothel.

    Speaking of Norway and Sweden, it seems that they have stereotypes and prejudices in one country about the inhabitants of the other. These are stereotypes and prejudices you have no understand of if you aren't either Norwegian or Swedish.
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    It is just political correctness, another opportunity to vilify men. I do not like the notion that governments think that they own citizens, and can punish them for things they do elsewhere. Going to the third world to have sex with kids is one thing, I can see punishing them in the home country for that, on the basis that the visited country is not able to enforce it, but that it is a universally bad thing.

    But putting them in jail for doing something that is legal in the visited country, when the visited country is a country with as high a standard of living as theirs? Norwegian men must be severe pussies to accept that.

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    Now this is, indeed, strange

    Quote Originally Posted by 10-19
    You're halfway there. The debate on prostitution is polarized by activists for decriminalization and abolitionists. Though radically opposite in their understanding of the issues, both activists and abolitionists claim to be feminists.
    Funny how both of them can wave the same flag!
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    What will be the effects of this law?

    Will there be an increase in sexual assaults? Will there be an increase in drunkeness and street violence? I predict now the law is in effect, that the country will go almost 100% dry because no one will want to be the first one caught under this law. Selling or buying.

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    The theory in legalizing...

    Quote Originally Posted by GTA refugee
    Will there be an increase in sexual assaults? Will there be an increase in drunkeness and street violence? I predict now the law is in effect, that the country will go almost 100% dry because no one will want to be the first one caught under this law. Selling or buying.
    ... prostitution is that sexual assaults do decrease.

    I don't know about its effect on drunkness and street violence though or even its theoretical effect on both.

    It would be interesting to see what the statistics reveal though.

    Take Germany and the Netherlands where prostitution is legal and the USA where it isn't. Or take Canada for that matter.

    Without even looking this up, its almost certain that the USA has a higher level of violent crime than any of these two countries.

    Could this be because of the higher level of sexual tension and repression? If American men had more ways of expending this tension, would they be mellower?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackyo8193
    ... prostitution is that sexual assaults do decrease.

    I don't know about its effect on drunkness and street violence though or even its theoretical effect on both.

    It would be interesting to see what the statistics reveal though.

    Take Germany and the Netherlands where prostitution is legal and the USA where it isn't. Or take Canada for that matter.

    Without even looking this up, its almost certain that the USA has a higher level of violent crime than any of these two countries.

    Could this be because of the higher level of sexual tension and repression? If American men had more ways of expending this tension, would they be mellower?
    Compare the gun laws in Germany and the Netherlands to the USA and you may have your answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eastender
    Compare the gun laws in Germany and the Netherlands to the USA and you may have your answer.
    Laws are for those who obey the laws. Im pretty sure someone bent on breaking the law won't be all that concerned about having an illegal gun. Besides, we are talking about sexual assaults here...what's the percentage of those committed by someone with a gun? Im guessing someone with a knife would be more common in a sexual assault.

    25% of all rape, sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault involved use of a handgun. When convicted of rape, less than 0.5% are also convicted of additional weapons charges.
    interesting link

    “In 2006, three-quarters of all violent crime victims were attacked by people without any weapons at all. Knives, clubs and other blunt instruments were used against 9.2 per cent of victims, while guns were used against only 2.4 percent. Knives were used to commit more murders, robberies, sexual assaults and assaults than guns.”

    “In December 2006, I released unpublished Statistics Canada tables showing that of the total homicides committed between 1997 and 2005, only 2.27 percent were committed with a registered gun,” explains Breitkreuz. “Only 1.21 percent were committed with a firearm registered to the accused murderer, and 2.14 percent were committed by a person that held a valid firearms licence (see link below). Obviously, law-abiding gun owners aren’t the problem and yet the Government of Ontario and the City of Toronto want to ban the handguns owned by honest citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouVantOption
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7806760.stm
    So, to get this straight, Norway thinks it is 'ok' to support the war in Iraq, rampantly kill species in danger of becoming extinct (whales), but buying a little nookie on the side is 'bad'. Nice place. Bloody vikings.
    Hello all,

    It's about prostitution...nothing else. "The Norwegian authorities say they want to stamp out sex tourism and street prostitution by targeting clients rather than prostitutes." What's the matter? Do you really think what we do around here is a fine and beautiful thing...lol. Yeah, I might be a hypocrite on this, but as I have said many times in the past I've never deluded myself into thinking there's nothing wrong with the sex industry and/or me. If you ever thought this was about two adults making a lucid and sensible business deal you've been dreaming. Clients most often are hurting for something missing in their lives, not just out for a unique experience. Nearly all prostitutes and escorts have previous negative issues to widely varying degrees that have led them to this work.

    So now the Norwegians want to fight the sex trade and some of you seem to feel your lifestyle is threatened or it will be more risky to get some nookie. Well hell, I was never so far gone as to ever think the hobby was a truly "good thing" for anyone. But I guess some of you have actually absolved yourselves of any responsibility for any of the inherent problems the ladies face in the industry. Geeeeez, get over it. This is not a harmless and innocent activity. If you want to hobby then realize that and try not to make it worse than it is. But it sure isn't sexual utopia. Of course street prostitution should be cleaned up, as well as the whole industry. I may not agree the Norwegians are using the best means, but if you think their general goal is a bad thing then your self-indulgence and selfishness has gone too far.

    Bravo Norwegians,

    Merlot (proud hereditary Norman-VIKING!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlot
    Hello all,

    It's about prostitution...nothing else.... ... What's the matter? Do you really think what we do around here is a fine and beautiful thing... ... Nearly all prostitutes and escorts have previous negative issues to widely varying degrees that have led them to this work.

    ... This is not a harmless and innocent activity... ... if you think their general goal is a bad thing then your self-indulgence and selfishness has gone too far.

    Bravo Norwegians,

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    There is only one way to settle this.

    We will get the Danish feminist on one side of a sports stadium, and the German feminist will be on the other side. They will all be issues a sproingy latex dildo as a weapon and a butt plug. The objective of the free for all is to subdue the opponent into submission and if an opponent has successed in inserting the butt plug into a memeber of the opposing team, then this member will be deemed to be out of the match. The team with the last memeber standing will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouVantOption
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    So, to get this straight, Norway thinks it is 'ok' to support the war in Iraq, rampantly kill species in danger of becoming extinct (whales), but buying a little nookie on the side is 'bad'. Nice place. Bloody vikings.
    Is it now any more "against the law" in Norway than it currently is in most of the US ?

    Does seem a step backwards except the bit about child prostitution.

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    Yes, it is more "against the law"..

    Quote Originally Posted by Possum Trot
    Is it now any more "against the law" in Norway than it currently is in most of the US ?

    Does seem a step backwards except the bit about child prostitution.
    .. in Norway than in the US.

    My Norwegian friends have said that the police there can use any means including wire tapping to determine if you use these services.

    They can extend that "long arm of the law" to include overseas activity.

    All prostitution comes under this umbrella. I can understand the bit about child prostitution but to cover all prostitution is a bit extreme, don't you think?

    And if someone has information on you indulging in the hobby overseas, you can be blackmailed. That person can go to the police with that information and have you arrested.

    Norwegian punters are keeping a very low profile going forwards, you can be sure.

    (I am not Norwegian, by the way. Thank goodness!)
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