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metoo4 said:
Criminal background check? What for? That's not even required for a passport! I have a NEXUS card and this wasn't even required for that!
In my line of work criminal check and fingerprinting is required to get into the U.S. to do my job. I think the new drivers licence will not be issue to people with criminal record They want better control on who is coming into their country
 

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The new license will be issued to anyone who wants one and is ready to pay the $40 premium for it. It is not a guarantee that you will be granted entry into the US, it just makes it possible and easier for border officials to check your identity. There is no personal information stored on the card itself.
 

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Techman said:
The new license will be issued to anyone who wants one and is ready to pay the $40 premium for it. It is not a guarantee that you will be granted entry into the US, it just makes it possible and easier for border officials to check your identity. There is no personal information stored on the card itself.
According to cyberpresse and tva you are wrong
 

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These are enhanced driver's permits.
They basically confirm your citizenship. Not as good as a passport but good for land & see crossing at the Canada/USA border.
 

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voyageur11 said:
According to cyberpresse and tva you are wrong

While you do have to prove that you are a Canadian citizen and have no criminal record to obtain one, there is no personal information stored on the card from what I have seen and read in the local media. So I am only partially wrong. ;)
 

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Techman said:
While you do have to prove that you are a Canadian citizen and have no criminal record to obtain one, there is no personal information stored on the card from what I have seen and read in the local media. So I am only partially wrong. ;)
I know there are no info on the card but they have access to the canadian system and everything they need to know is right there in their face .In my case picture, where i live,fingerprint, my destination Once in a while they will ask if i stop at the duty free
 

metoo4

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Techman said:
While you do have to prove that you are a Canadian citizen and have no criminal record to obtain one, there is no personal information stored on the card from what I have seen and read in the local media. So I am only partially wrong. ;)

It have nothing to do with having a criminal record or not. You can get this "permis plus" even if you are the worst criminal possible, as long as you are a Canadian citizen living in Québec, are not prohibited to leave Canada, not officially under a jail sentence or your driver licence isn't suspended.

http://www.saaq.qc.ca/en/documents/pdf/driver_licence/licenceplus_guide.php

Nowhere do they talk about a criminal background check or fingerprinting. This isn't a visa, only an identification card. This isn't a NEXUS card either.

The card itself contain only a random identifier number. That identifier link the card to information you provides on the forms you need to fill-out, nothing more. This information is stored elsewhere. It gives no access to anything else, including your driving record. No fingerprinting is required.

In Canada, this information is generally destroyed 2 years after the "permis plus" expires but, in USA, it's kept 75 years!

Now, what the USA will do with this info, as far as digging deeper, nobody know. They might be able to find a criminal record but, this will be done on their own and it have nothing to do with the process involved in getting or using a "permis plus".

It is stressed a few time in the document, the "permis plus" doesn't automatically grant you access to the USA, it only positively identify you to the US Customs Agent. It's still up to that person to let you in or not. He could even seize the permit if he feels it's used fraudulently or it's invalid!
 
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May be you should read this thread again i wrote what is required for me in my line of work not the average visitor. Unless you got a waiver you can get into the U.S with a criminal record and that included dwi And it was in the french paper yesterday you cannot get the new permit with a criminal record
 

metoo4

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Voyageur, The link I posted is from SAAQ. They are the ones issuing the permit so, my guess is, they know the conditions. Newspapers don't always have the absolute truth.

I quoted Techman, not you. I did see you had written "in your line of work" and I'm not debating this. I mentionned fingerprinting in case some got confused thinking it was required for this Québec "permis plus". I know you are aware it's not required for the average joe who only want to get this Québec "permis plus".

What I wanted to stress is, even you, no matter your job, you could get this permit without fingerprinting if you live in Québec and meet the other requirement. Anybody's job, whatever it is, is irrelevant to the delivery of this permit.

If somebody's job requires extra steps to enter the USA, it's a different ball game, usually called a visa and, it have nothing to do with this Québec "permis plus".
 
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