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EagerBeaver

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Mod 5,

I agree it was inappropriate for Sexi Lexi to post allegations regarding minors working at a certain agency, and that even if true, posting such info is only going to lead to that agency getting a deluge of calls from pedophiles and exploiters.

But is it really necessary for Lexi to get a permanent ban for this? I am requesting clemency. She has not asked me to ask for clemency for her, and in fact I have not spoken to her in years. But I have met her and I do like her, and that is why I am requesting clemency. I think she possibly posted emotionally and on the spur of the moment and not thinking about what she was doing.

Can the ban be reduced to one week on humanitarian grounds? It is the holiday season and perhaps the Moderators should re-think this very harsh punishment. As far as I know this is only her first ban and it should not be one strike and you're out.
 
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Mod5,

Thank you for this compassionate grant of clemency. Usually I would not intervene on Moderator decisions which are really none of my business, but I really believe that Lexi just was not thinking when she made this post (and I did read it before it was deleted). I think only one other time I asked for clemency and it was for a poster who I never heard of and never met and it just seemed the punishment was a bit harsh. However, in Lexi's case I know her.

Lexi potentially has a lot to add to the board in terms of positive information and hopefully when she gets back, she will.
 
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Eager, one thing she'll have to remember: if she want to have the slightest chance to be allowed to defend herself in her review thread, and I mean a 1 post, polite, respectful ant to-the-point chance, she will have to become an official MERB advertiser and get her handle in red.

We sometimes allow providers to post their side of the coin but, for those who are not MERB advertisers, it's absolutely forbidden. Any provider who is not a MERB advertiser will see her post deleted and will get banned until she become an advertiser. That's what happened to SexyLexi and that was the cause of the permanent ban, not necessarely the content of her post.
 

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Mod11,

To my knowledge, Lexi is retired. As I stated above I have not seen, talked to, or communicated with her since early 2007 or so. The reason given by M5 for banning her had nothing to do with advertising. It had to do with Lexi making allegations about a minor working for an agency. Lexi did not indicate in that post that she is working nor did she advertise her services. I think her claim was that she knew the minor allegedly working at the agency. I sensed her post and the thread she started were driven by raw emotion. Her ban was understandable, it was the length of it (permanent) that I thought was harsh. Lexi is IMHO a very intelligent young lady and could have something to add posting as a retired SP.
 
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My gut feeling is that Sexi Lexi's intentions were good when she made that post. But it's possible she didn't consider the possible effects her post might have. Who knows, maybe she did contact the agency in question about her concerns & they refused to budge & that's why she made her post. Again, who knows....

I think you did the right thing by granting her clemency.

Beave, if you'd be a lawyer or judge, i hope you'd be on my side in a court trial. ;)
 

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I'm going to chime in here that even a two week ban is wrong and heartless. Did Lexi act inappropriately? Probably so. However, she was in a state of high stress over the fact that someone she's close to, an underage runaway, is working here in Montreal as an escort. This is a life that Lexi herself has led and the fact that a child she knows is now living that life was surely quite painful to her.

And, by the way, whether her ban is lifted or not, Lexi's actions this afternoon have had tangible results, at least on the surface. The girl's pictures are no longer on the website of the agency in question. While that's not hard proof that Lexi was telling the truth, it's pretty good circumstantial evidence.

Lexi doesn't come here often, she almost never posts. She wasn't playing games when she came in here this afternoon. She was trying to help someone. Quite simple. Did she come to the wrong place? Probably so. She didn't know where else to turn.

And I, for one, want to thank Lexi for reducing the chances that I might invite an underage girl into my room.
 

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Lexi doesn't come here often, she almost never posts. She wasn't playing games when she came in here this afternoon. She was trying to help someone. Quite simple. Did she come to the wrong place? Probably so. She didn't know where else to turn.
I can't asnwer for M5 about her suspension, but whatever how good her intentions was by posting it on MERB, the best thing she should do to help the underage girl in question isn't to post it here on MERB, but to call the police..

MERB never allowed some thread about infantile prostitution and we won't do an exception because it's a Montreal agency, (like Special K said:"Sad thing about posting this is that now their phone is going to be ringing off the hook with people looking for her" and the last thing we want to do it's to promote these kind of thing) If she really want to make a big favour to the girl, she should contact the authorities and/or the agency's owner

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M10,

I agree with you 100% that the proper action based on receiving information of a minor working as a prostitute is to call the police. I understand that MERB does not want to be viewed as promoting such alleged behavior by allowing such posts to stand.

However, there is no dispute here that the post was properly removed. Everyone is in agreement about that. The issue is the length of Lexi's ban. It is excessive under these circumstances. Her heart was in the right place. She should not have a lengthy ban. Her post is gone and the matter is now in the hands of the authorities I presume. The only issue now is when Lexi is going to be allowed back on MERB.
 
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EagerBeaver;

like i said, i can't answer for M5 about her suspension. But if her ban has to be lifted, it has to be him who do it. But i can see why he banned her, the accusations she posted were very serious but you can't come here and posting it publicly without any proofs except your words. It's against MERB rules.

M10
 

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Perhaps the chain of events started by the post in question will produce a "Sticky" outlining proper procedures for future situations where a suspicion exists that a provider is underage.
 

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EagerBeaver;

like i said, i can't answer for M5 about her suspension. But if her ban has to be lifted, it has to be him who do it. But i can see why he banned her, the accusations she posted were very serious but you can't come here and posting it publicly without any proofs except your words. It's against MERB rules.

M10

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davepeak

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oh no

..........please dont ban me.........oh no..........i ll do anything...........how scary....oo ooo...............hey buddy why dont u crawl back in the sewer where u came from...........fucking prostitutes and talking about it on the internet............how very sad and pathetic.................u guys are so low............but no i take it all back..........i dont want to be banned..................ooohh noooooooooooooo...........fuck u

EDIT: Seeing as you are trying so hard to get banned, I have accommodated you. There is no reason for anyone who does not respect MERB and our members to be here so yes, you are banned. Permanently.
 
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My gut feeling is that Sexi Lexi's intentions were good when she made that post. But it's possible she didn't consider the possible effects her post might have. Who knows, maybe she did contact the agency in question about her concerns & they refused to budge & that's why she made her post. Again, who knows....

I think you did the right thing by granting her clemency.

Beave, if you'd be a lawyer or judge, i hope you'd be on my side in a court trial. ;)

Hello all,

I saw the post by Lexi just before it was removed. It seems now that she made some poor posting choices while trying to help a minor and keep her from being exploited. But it was troubling to see the process she choose, such as posting the real name of the girl, and to see how the post was taken immediately as fact when so many attack posts like it have been placed in the past.

Now could someone explain the effectiveness of the Canadian ID system? I thought it was very good. How does an agency end up hiring a minor. Is the Canadian ID system actually that ineffective or are the agency owners who hire such girls just that careless, irresponsible, or possibly intentionally exploitative? We hobbyists can always ask for IDs, but it starts with the agency owner and any agency who hires and sends out minors, when I presume the Canadian ID system is as good as anyone's, has a great deal of explaining to do.

While unproven leads on minors should be handled discreetly, shouldn't there be some sort of resource on this board to warn members about the possibility of minors being employed as escorts? This may be a police issue, but I don't think the responsibility of hobbyists to ask for IDs should be the only firewall to prevent minors against working in this business. Shouldn't some sort of alert section be set up to warn members of solid information about individual minors working since some owners don't seem capable or possibly interested enough to screen out minors from working for them???

There are several disturbing questions about this whole episode.

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Merlot
 
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EagerBeaver

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Merlot,

I did not see any posts which, as you put it, took Lexi's post "immediately as fact." What a few posters said was that even if Lexi's post was true, the result of the post was to reward pedophile lurkers who would then call the agency in question, which would also be rewarded with business as a result of the post. Thus, even if she was well intentioned and accurate, the end result of her post was to reward pedophiles and those who engage in the trafficking of minors. I can tell you she probably did not think of those consequences and was probably posting very emotionally.

Your question regarding the ID system is a very valid and interesting one. I have always wondered how agencies figure these things out, whether they try to, and whether it is a waste of time to ask a girl to show her ID. My conclusion has always been that it is so easy to get a fake ID that it is a waste of time to check it, rather than just ask her how old she is. But, maybe I am wrong.
 
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