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    Taking - giving a phone number... Prendre un numero de telephone

    Bonjour a tous,

    J'ai pu faire une premiere contribution a ce site la semaine derniere, mais il semble que ca ete plus controverse qu'a l'habitude ici.

    En remerciant les mods, je le remets mais sur son propre lien. en plus, j'ai pu lire quelques unes des reponses suivant mon ecrit, j'essaierai de repondre a certaines au meilleur de ma memoire...

    merci

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    Il y avait la semaine derniere un thread qui poussais plusieurs de mes boutons, mais encore une fois je ferai un effort pour garder calme et coherence. Merci de votre indulgence, j`en ai beaucoup a dire.

    Pour recapituler trèèès brèvement, ce thread parlait de la transition d`une fille de travail avec une agence, vers le nouveau statut d`independante. Ce qui est tres bien pour elle, mais certains commentaires dans ce thread me semblaient louches...

    Je debuterais avec quelques mots pour les autres filles qui, comme moi, lisent ce forum assez regulierement:

    Les filles, soyons honnètes: nous voyons une bonne quantité de clients, de tout genres, respectueux ou pas, gentils ou pas, etc. La plupart sont lucides et se comportent en bons clients et humains.
    Mais il y en a qui sont d`une catégorie a part, je les appelent les maniganceux! Vous les reconnaissez surement, lors d`une premiere rencontre sinon la deuxieme-troisieme, font de leur possible pour nous refiler numéros de cel ou adresse courriel.

    Sans oublier les petits mots mielleux pour tenter de nous convaincre de les voir sans la supervision de nos agences, ``parce que tu sais, ca derange et nuit au mood``...

    Voyons les filles, reveillez-vous!! Il n`existe que 2 motivations possibles derriere ce petit scenario:

    Primo, il divagues sous l`extase de son orgasme et croit qu`avoir appele une agence d`escorte serait la même chose que de se logger sur Réseau-Contact, excepté ces détails fatiguants tels que laisser le choix a la fille si ELLE veut rencontrer l`homme, s`il y a quoi que ce soit au-dela du sexe justifiant une relation de plus de 5 minutes...Bref, il a des desseins amoureux sur ta jolie personne!!

    Secondo, il tente de nous faire avaler la vieille salade de l`argent $$$, promesses du tarif total dans nos poches...Dans le monde des affaires on dirait ``mais quel est l`avantage de faire cela pour le client s`il paie le meme prix?`` Oui, le 60-80 de plus seras peut-etre respecte aux premieres rencontres si l`on est assez sottes pour embarquer dans ce manege, mais combien voulez-vous parier que ce ne seras pas long que le 200 pour une heure retrecieras a 200$ pour 1h30, 2h, 3h? pour la nuit entiere? Car il faut bien sur l`entretenir cette clientele, nous sommes dans l`industrie du sexe vous vous rappelez...Il y auras toujours une nouvelle ``hot chick`` qui attireras son regard et son attention...La plupart des clients sont maries et sont deja en train de butiner clandestinement en dehors du lit conjugal.
    En fin de compte, les hommes qui cherchent les escortes ``on the side``, sont ceux qui cherchent une maitresse mais a prix rabais car il n`a pas a la sortir au resto et club, ou lui acheter des cadeaux, elle n`est la que pour assouvir les besoins sexuels de monsieur...

    Les boys, je suis bien contente de travailler pour une agence, remplir mon quart de travail (comme vous autres le font, regardes donc ça!!), puis retourner a ma vie jusqu`a la prochaine fois. Oui, on m`a souvent offert un numéro de téléphone, et aussi rapidement que le `ti papier fait son apparition je le refuses, mais s`il vient a insister je lui fait la remarque que je préfererais avoir le numéro du domicile familial plutot que leur cel...Pour les hommes mariés, c`est plus efficace qu`une douche aux glacons...

    Ne soyez pas naïves, girls, si les clients apprécient grandement le contact physique et nôtre chimie mutuelle et veux répeter dans le futur, que vas-t`il gagner de plus en essayant de déloger notre agence de l`équation? Il avais déja le sexe, que veux-t`il de plus? Simple, des escomptes, des freebies, peut-être nous déjouer en allant au-dela de nos limites personellis--par ca je veux dire l`anal et le sans-condom!! Et dans les cas extremes s`imposer dans nôtre vie privée.

    N`y a t`il pas assez de gars au clubs qui jouent a ce jeu déja?
    Last edited by Coral; 08-19-2010 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quelques reponses a certains membres:

    par Son-of-a-moose
    pat98 & cloudsurf , you got to be the luckiest guys in town right now. I saw her twice with this June and July but did not ask for her number. What a fool I was.
    I will thank you to not behave in the future as you should always ask for your escort's phone number, Moose.
    Cette discussion la semaine derniere, incluant des commentaires faits par monsieur MOOSE ont le malheureux effet de valider les actions des clients qui croient cela tout cute de collectionner les numeros personnels de leurs escortes--- est-ce que vous donnez votre numero au commis du Blockbuster apres avoir vu un film particulierement super?
    C'est drole comment après vôtre p'tite baise d'une nuit apres la soirée au bar, les hommes ne peuvent s'esquiver assez rapidement de l'appartement de la fille et de ne jamais la rappeler, mais vous ne pouvez lacher prise de l'escorte!!... matiere a penser...

    De Cloudsurf
    Don`t sweat it Moose, no one had her number in July while she was with SD. Only after she decided to go indy did she contact a few lucky guys.
    I`m certain that we`ll all be hearing from her very shortly right here on Merb
    Monsieur Cloudsurf et moi avions eu une discussion courte la derniere fois, tout en esquivant le coeur de la matiere...
    En tout cas , j'aimerais savoir comment serait possible de rencontrer la fille dans l'entretemps ou elle avais quitte son agence, et avant que son site web soit erige, sans qu'echange de numeros de tel. se fassent avant qu\elle quitte son agence? Je ne savais pas que la telepathie etait le tout nouveau outil de marketing?

    (Ecoutez, je sais que c'est monnaie courante dans ce milieu que certaines des filles et des clients font des passes-passes...mais devez-vous etre hypocrites en plus?)



    and I will try to answer monsieur Special K as best I can...

    You say I am jealous, you can think what you want... I have friends who are indepenants and I support them...i am satisfied with what I make, and I have time for other things.

    But in my other life I look for truth and debate. I think you should not dismiss what I say so easy. Now if you can read in english what i said, can you contradicte anything with facts, or teach me something new?
    Last edited by Coral; 08-17-2010 at 09:25 PM.

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    I must of missed the origins of this thread?
    So just to add my 2 cents...
    As a collector of numbers myself.....and being a guy that always has something to say, offer, or do.
    I have literally almost every sp I have seen on speed'dial.
    That being said, I don't expect.. Nor, will I ever assume that one of these girls could become my gf..!
    Of course there have been freebies, and dates.., but most importantly I've made some genuine friends. The type that would call sick at their agency.. To spend time with me after I've dealt with a heartbreak( thanks darling )
    ...if it's done with respect, and you get along great with the girl .. Why not?
    That way, you could see her when she leaves an agency.
    But for someone to get a number so they can pursue a love interest.. That's messed up( unless she wants you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coral View Post
    Monsieur Cloudsurf et moi avions eu une discussion courte la derniere fois, tout en esquivant le coeur de la matiere...
    En tout cas , j'aimerais savoir comment serait possible de rencontrer la fille dans l'entretemps ou elle avais quitte son agence, et avant que son site web soit erige, sans qu'echange de numeros de tel. se fassent avant qu\elle quitte son agence? Je ne savais pas que la telepathie etait le tout nouveau outil de marketing?

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    Bonjour Coral
    Jessy and cloudsurf have had a few interesting conversations about some of the difficulties of running the biz. I`ve agreed a 100% with what she`d said, but I take issue with your above statement.

    Many if not most girls give their number to favourite clients, but not Amy. She didn`t get her new bussiness cell # till she came back from Ontario in early August.
    Some guys had her MSN contact ....but that was from before she joined SD. I got her number the same day that you announced that she was going indy and wished her luck.I was impressed by your class....for a while.

    You`d be surprised at all the reasons why guys ask for a girl`s number, and most reasons have nothing to do with wanting to see her on the side .

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    So who is Coral? That is the question I'd like to know the answer to. I think I already do though. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    So who is Coral? That is the question I'd like to know the answer to. I think I already do though. ;-)
    You think, others thinks, the Pope thinks ...

    So, what about it SK ? I'm curious too !


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    Originally Posted by Coral
    Monsieur Cloudsurf et moi avions eu une discussion courte la derniere fois, tout en esquivant le coeur de la matiere...
    En tout cas , j'aimerais savoir comment serait possible de rencontrer la fille dans l'entretemps ou elle avais quitte son agence, et avant que son site web soit erige, sans qu'echange de numeros de tel. se fassent avant qu\elle quitte son agence? Je ne savais pas que la telepathie etait le tout nouveau outil de marketing?


    Quote Originally Posted by cloudsurf View Post
    Bonjour Coral
    Jessy and cloudsurf have had a few interestingconversations about some of the difficulties of running the biz. I`ve agreed a 100% with what she`d said, but I take issue with your above statement.

    Many if not most girls give their number to favourite clients, but not Amy. She didn`t get her new bussiness cell # till she came back from Ontario in early August.
    Some guys had her MSN contact ....but that was from before she joined SD. I got her number the same day that you announced that she was going indy and wished her luck.I was impressed by your class....for a while.

    You`d be surprised at all the reasons why guys ask for a girl`s number, and most reasons have nothing to do with wanting to see her on the side .
    What the hell are you talking about ?
    Looks like it's started by a translation and end up in something else.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coral View Post
    Les boys, je suis bien contente de travailler pour une agence, remplir mon quart de travail (comme vous autres le font, regardes donc ça!!), puis retourner a ma vie jusqu`a la prochaine fois. Oui, on m`a souvent offert un numéro de téléphone, et aussi rapidement que le `ti papier fait son apparition je le refuses, mais s`il vient a insister je lui fait la remarque que je préfererais avoir le numéro du domicile familial plutot que leur cel...Pour les hommes mariés, c`est plus efficace qu`une douche aux glacons...

    Ne soyez pas naïves, girls, si les clients apprécient grandement le contact physique et nôtre chimie mutuelle et veux répeter dans le futur, que vas-t`il gagner de plus en essayant de déloger notre agence de l`équation? Il avais déja le sexe, que veux-t`il de plus? Simple, des escomptes, des freebies, peut-être nous déjouer en allant au-dela de nos limites personellis--par ca je veux dire l`anal et le sans-condom!! Et dans les cas extremes s`imposer dans nôtre vie privée.

    N`y a t`il pas assez de gars au clubs qui jouent a ce jeu déja?
    Bonjour Coral,

    Je suis d`accord avec votre avertissement. Les dames ne doivent pas accepter ou donner des informations personellis à quelqu`un qu`ils ne connaissent pas bien. Certains hommes ont des intentions qui sont intrusifs, et fera des complications mauvaise. Mais, pour être juste, il en est de même pour les hommes. Nous savons tous il ya des dames qui cherchent à exploiter leurs clients.

    Quote Originally Posted by jeff jones View Post
    Getting contact info such as email addresses and phone no`s of sp`s is easy, you don`t really even have to ask. About 90% of the sp`s that i meet i am not interested in there contact info because i have no intention of ever seeing them again. Now i tend to book 2 to 4 hr dates so when i meet one that i really like i just simply say i hope to see you next time i am in town but you are really hard to book or you are never on schedule when i come to town and pretty much every one of them gives me there email address and or phone no. without me ever asking because they are treated decently and they know if i contact them it will be for a multi hour date. To get contact info It ain`t rocket science it is just that simple.
    Truly. I have never asked any lady directly for her number when I have wanted to be more certain I could see her again. At that point we have had a mutually satisfying meeting and upon saying that I wish to see the lady again she usually gives me her email and/or phone number; some times a personal business card. If it doesn`t happen that way then the client or both are better off not pursuing it.

    I have also never given or tried to push my phone number onto any lady...except once when the relationship and trust was well established. For one thing I don`t like giving out my number in this hobby. But really, if she doesn`t offer me another way to contact her then she probably isn`t interested in any more personal method of contact than I used to meet her in the first place.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    So who is Coral? That is the question I'd like to know the answer to. I think I already do though. ;-)
    Quote Originally Posted by Montreal Sex City View Post
    You think, others thinks, the Pope thinks ...

    So, what about it SK ? I'm curious too !


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    It wouldn't be right for me to post unverified information, but, you've been around a long time, I bet you know her well.
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    J'aimes qu'il y ait un peu de discussion sur mon sujet, quoique nous pouvons faire mieux, messieurs. Avant tout, quelques réponses a quelques questions:

    De 10-4 Roger
    Special K did not post in this thread before...
    Et de Ricky Bonds
    I must of missed the origins of this thread?
    I had originally posted my longer essay in an other thread about a week ago. There was brief discussion with some members such as Special K and Cloudsurf, but the modérateurs chose to erase this.

    De Ricky Bonds
    As a collector of numbers myself.....I have literally almost every sp I have seen on speed'dial.
    ...if it's done with respect, and you get along great with the girl .. Why not?
    Je réponds en français ici seulement pour avoir plus de clarté dans mes propos. Monsieur Bonds, il me sembles n'avoir jamais dite que l'échange de numéros ne se faisait jamais dans ce métier. Ce serait naïf de ma part de croire que c'est un phénomène tout nouveau, mais moi en particulier j'ai fais le choix de ne pas les accepter parce que je suis lucide derriere le pourquoi de la part des hommes.
    Vous-même vous confirmez dans vôtre réponse que vous faites partie de la deuxième catégorie, que vous recherchez des maitresses a bon marché, n'est-ce-pas? Une maitresse demande souvent bien plus d'efforts, d'attention et de dépenses de la part de l'homme qu'avoir une escorte a la portée de la main. Avec une maitresse, il ne faut pas oublier cadeaux, sorties, soupers, appels attentionnés. Une escorte comme substitut eradique tout ces efforts pour n'y laisser que le sexe comme obligation.
    Je ne nie pas la preuve de compassion mentionnée plus haut, car après tout, nous sommes humaines et pas faites de pierre...

    De Cloudsurf
    I got her number the same day that you announced that she was going indy and wished her luck.I was impressed by your class....for a while.
    You`d be surprised at all the reasons why guys ask for a girl`s number, and most reasons have nothing to do with wanting to see her on the side .
    Désolé cloudsurf, nous ne pouvons vous décerner votre certificat de détective. Je ne suis pas Jessy et oui, elle a fait preuve de beaucoup de classe, bravo. Je choisis de garder mon anonimat, ergo je n'ai pas besoin d'être toute délicate dans mes propos.
    I see a few posters get defensive, even agressive because it seems I attack a girl who could be their favorite escort. Pas du tout. What provoqued my reaction was not that a girl went from agency to working by herself, it is because I could clearly feel many of the people writing about it as the few days went by put down words that seemed too untruthful, too arrogant. And I know how men sometimes react to situations: when it is a sujet as clear as the raping of a girl, very black and white, you will be in agreement that it is wrong.
    But here is a sujet that is much more grey, and is it possible most or many here have done this or want to do this?--- so no one chastises, most keep silent. It is like if you are 15 and your parents tell you it is bad to drink or to take marijuana, you smile inside and say to mom and dad, 'yes you are right", but do it anyway...

    I tell you why I think it is wrong. I make plenty of money to satissfy my needs, I am well treated by my employers. I work enough hours a week and when I finish my shift I want to just live my life and not plan to meet more clients on the side.There is just no time for me. Also I find it is not respect to my employers, who spend time and money to find me work. Just like at my other job I don't steal pens and lamps and food and the cash money. This is MY opinion...

    Ah oui, il y a d'autres raisons pourquoi un client chercherais a avoir le numéro de son escorte? autres que la voir "on the side", monsieur cloudsurf? Ah bon, j'aimerais bien les savoir, éclairez ma lanterne. Peut-être allez vous me dire quelque chose que je n'ai jamais entendue concernant ce sujet, mais j'en doutes...

    De Special K
    So who is Coral? That is the question I'd like to know the answer to. I think I already do though. ;-)
    It wouldn't be right for me to post unverified information, but, you've been around a long time, I bet you know her well.
    You also do not win your badge of detective, Special K. You would be surprised to know how many escorts read this site regular, but with no nick. I have been reading for many months, even before I work as an escort. Like amy other job, research is very important to become good at it.

    Je peux être une femme, une jeune, une escorte, mais je ne suis pas une cruche!!

    And you will not be able to guess who I am, sorry. Maybe I work for Eleganza or Jessy or Queens of Spads and many of you see me...or maybe I work for Ferrary or Fantasme from Le Journal de Montreal and nobody hear of me...or I work at an incall because I have a lot of sex drive. But it is not important who I really am, only what I discuss ---en passant, you did not discuss what I say at all...too bad
    Last edited by Coral; 08-19-2010 at 08:37 PM.

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    """""""Vous-même vous confirmez dans vôtre réponse que vous faites partie de la deuxième catégorie, que vous recherchez des maitresses a bon marché, n'est-ce-pas?
    """""

    Je pense que ta mal compris mes commentaires..
    Jai jamait demander DES numeros.. Dans l'interet de avoir du sex gratuit..ou de avoir une blonde...?
    Les fois que cest Deja arriver .. Cetait Les dames qui l'ont poursuiver..
    En generale, en apprenant comment je suis. Et Les genres de choses que je fait pour le fun....
    Cest eux, qui aimerait sortir avec moi..( clubs, spectacles, chateau Frontenac, Vancouver.., new York.. Etc..) Pour le fun simplement....
    Oui jai fait DES amies incroyable... And I'm always there for my friends , no matter what.
    ....je voulait juste me clarifier un peut.
    Last edited by Ricky bonds; 08-19-2010 at 09:43 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coral View Post

    De Cloudsurf


    What provoqued my reaction was not that a girl went from agency to working by herself, it is because I could clearly feel many of the people writing about it as the few days went by put down words that seemed too untruthful, too arrogant. And I know how men sometimes react to situations:
    Please explain what was said that seemed too untruthful and too arrogant. What exactly are you referring too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coral View Post
    De Special K


    You also do not win your badge of detective, Special K. You would be surprised to know how many escorts read this site regular, but with no nick. I have been reading for many months, even before I work as an escort. Like amy other job, research is very important to become good at it.
    How would you know this? I never publicly stated who I firmly believe "Coral" to be, I may already have my badge of detective, anyway...I always said "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's probably..." you know the rest.

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    Coral, with all due respect, there is no way that you are an escort.
    No agency girl would waste her precious time on this thread and this topic. They have better and more profitable things to do with their time.
    As an agency owner I suggest that you stop wasting your time pissing into the wind and fighting a losing battle. Go back to doing what you do best and for Pete`s sake, stop insulting your clients.
    Last edited by cloudsurf; 08-20-2010 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Special K View Post
    "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...it's probably..." you know the rest.
    ummm... a squid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bud Fox View Post
    Would someone be kind enough to translate Coral's original post?
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