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Maybe the current Pope is cognizant of realities. Perhaps the Vetican is finally allowing its priets to enjoy carnial pleasures with consenting adults. Who knows maybe one day the Chuch will allow priests to marry first opposite sex and when hell freezes over, same sex marriages. ;) Too bad, the Vetican is now try to minimize what the Pope said by saying what he said was perochial. Whatever! Go Bless Sexual Encourters Among Consenting Adults!
 

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Pope says: Condoms OK for male prostitutes .

Pope Benedict XVI blesses the faithful during a consistory inside St. Peter's Basilica, at the Vatican, Saturday, Nov. 20, 2010. Pope Benedict XVI says in a new book that the use of condoms can be justified in some cases, such as for male prostitutes seeking to prevent the spread of HIV.

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VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI says in a new book that condoms can be justified for male prostitutes seeking to stop the spread of HIV, a stunning comment for a church criticized for its opposition to condoms and for a pontiff who has blamed them for making the AIDS crisis worse.

The pope made the comments in a book-length interview with a German journalist, "Light of the World: The Pope, the Church and the Signs of the Times," which is being released Tuesday. The Vatican newspaper ran excerpts on Saturday.

Church teaching has long opposed condoms because they are a form of artificial contraception, although it has never released an explicit policy about condoms and HIV. The Vatican has been harshly criticized for its opposition.

Benedict said that condoms are not a moral solution. But he said in some cases, such as for male prostitutes, they could be justified "in the intention of reducing the risk of infection."

Benedict called it "a first step in a movement toward a different way, a more human way of living sexuality."

He used as an example male prostitutes, for whom contraception is not an issue, as opposed to married couples where one spouse is infected. The Vatican has come under pressure from even some church officials in Africa to condone condom use for monogamous married couples to protect the uninfected spouse from getting infected.

HIV/AIDS activists applauded the pope's new position.

"I'm very happy he has finally addressed the issue and, in some sense, has come to his senses," said Terry DeCarlo, public relations and marketing director for Broward House, Broward County's largest HIV/AIDS organization with 6,000 clients. "If he's going to help us and speak up on the AIDS crisis — finally — let's take it a step further: Condoms are needed for everybody, not just male prostitutes. But it's a first step."

"Wow. I think it's definitely progress," said Michael Emanuel Rajner of Fort Lauderdale, who this week was named to POZ magazine's top 100 AIDS/HIV activists. "It sounds like a pope sounding more compassionate and more sensible to the world's issues.

"It could show or be a sign that the Catholic Church — more specifically Pope Benedict — is embracing LGBT individuals with a greater sense of dignity and inclusiveness."

Benedict drew the wrath of the United Nations, European governments and AIDS activisits when he told reporters en route to Africa in 2009 that the AIDS problem on the continent couldn't be resolved by distributing condoms.

"On the contrary, it increases the problem," he said then.

Journalist Peter Seewald, who interviewed Benedict over the course of six days this summer, raised the Africa condom comments and asked Benedict if it wasn't "madness" for the Vatican to forbid a high-risk population to use condoms.

"There may be a basis in the case of some individuals, as perhaps when a male prostitute uses a condom, where this can be a first step in the direction of a moralization, a first assumption of responsibility," Benedict said.

But he stressed that it wasn't the way to deal with the evil of HIV, and elsewhere in the book reaffirmed church teaching on contraception and abortion, saying: "How many children are killed who might one day have been geniuses, who could have given humanity something new, who could have given us a new Mozart or some new technical discovery?"

He reiterated the church's position that abstinence and marital fidelity is the only sure way to prevent HIV.



Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/20/1935390/pope-says-condoms-ok-for-male.html#ixzz15wjvq4rK
 
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Thanks for the clarification CS Martin. (I heard the BBC radio news update on this story. I was half a sleep when I heard it while I was laying in bed on a lazy Sunday morning.)

It's a big step forward for the Church. IMHO, the implication being that (male) priests engage in sex with male prostitutes.
 

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Kansas Frank,

Yup, could be a whole new marketplace for agencies in Montreal. They could advertise in the church publications.....LOL
 

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How does the Monty Python song go?

Every Sperm is sacred
Every sperm is good

I am against condoms because there is always a chance that a sexual encounter will bring another life into this world and that life has the potential to put an envelope in the collection box every Sunday morning.
But gays don't make babies anyway so condoms are OK for them I guess.
 

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better late than never?

For me, it just prove how unconnected this religion is with today`s reality. It's funny how long it took for a pope to approve the use of condoms. We shouldn`t even give any importance to that news, who should have been a news 20 years ago...
 

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I believe in Papal Infallibility just as strongly as I believe in Joe T.'s sports predictions.

I never understood how Papal Infalliblity can be asserted and then later mistakes admitted as the Vatican has on rare occasions (e.g. in finally admitting Gallileo was correct).
 

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Pope says: Condoms OK for male prostitutes .

Pope Benedict XVI blesses the faithful during a consistory inside St. Peter's Basilica, at the Vatican, Saturday, Nov. 20, 2010. Pope Benedict XVI says in a new book that the use of condoms can be justified in some cases, such as for male prostitutes seeking to prevent the spread of HIV.


http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/20/1935390/pope-says-condoms-ok-for-male.html#ixzz15wjvq4rK

So why is it not OK for female prostitutes to use a condom to protect against disease or pregnancy?
 
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At a news conference on Tuesday (November 23, 2010), the Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the pope had specifically told him on Monday that the issue was not procreation but disease prevention — regardless of the gender of the prostitute.

“This is if you’re a woman, a man, or a transsexual,” Father Lombardi said.
 

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the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the pope had specifically told him on Monday that the issue was not procreation but disease prevention — regardless of the gender of the prostitute.

“This is if you’re a woman, a man, or a transsexual,” Father Lombardi said.

so I guess this means it's OK for the female prostitute to use a condom as long as she does not want to have a baby. That should work :confused:

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Did he mention any changes regarding their strict bareback policy when fucking altar boys? :rolleyes:
 

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The POPE said it's OK for Prostitutes to use condoms

Unless the pope is one of their customers, I don't think prostitutes really care what his position is on the matter. If he is one of their customers, however, I'm sure that they are all now relieved that he won't be trying to go bareback on them anymore.
 
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