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    Merc Advertiser Boycott Starts December 1

    First, let me dispel a misunderstanding that is being promulgated by a couple of the ladies, notably Maria Divina. The action we are now taking is not due to a dispute between Merc and Merb, or between their members, but because of a wholesale assault on merb, its members, and some of the girls with whom we spend time. This has been going on for the better part of a year and, only in the last few weeks have the mods on Merb given us license to respond.

    While the two boards appear nearly indistinguishable but for their background colors, in fact they couldn’t be more dissimilar in the way they function. Merb has rules that are firmly and fairly enforced by the mods. Merc, on the other hand, is virtually unmoderated, the only apparent rule being that you’re not allowed to dispute the postings of a handful of mentally-unhinged individuals who account for the bulk of the board’s traffic. Any objection to slander and lies result in the silent banning and post deletion.

    The end result is a plethora of bullshit directed at us, bullshit that would be actionable for slander in the non-virtual world. Among other things, Tony is free to call Techman and Merlot pedophiles, and to write a review of Scarlett suggesting that she offers services which she does not. Ziggy, himself a devotee of violent fantasies with escorts, chooses to call me a rapist, while writing scandalous “reviews” of Jasmine, whom he has never met, and to stalk and demean any number of other girls. This is but the iceberg’s tip.

    Any attempt to rectify the situation is mocked by Tom, Merc’s owner, who joins in the action under his Wickerman handle, and by their mod9, himself a violator under his ironic agentleman27 handle.

    Why, then, a boycott? The lifeblood of any web-operation is the revenue generated by advertising. We’ve been unsuccessful at generating any adult response from Tom and mod9, and our next course of action is to attempt to cut off their advertising. To that end, we’ve given their advertisers several weeks’ notice that we will no longer support them if they continue to funnel part of our donations over to Tom.

    We are not asking any of you to change your habits, just to be more conscious of where you spend your money. There is certainly no shortage of escorts, both agency and indy, and massage parlors to be found right here on Merb, and the vast majority do not advertise on merc. By keeping your business with Merb advertisers, you are also performing a second function by rewarding those who make it possible for Fred Zed to keep this venue alive. Note, though, that there are some who advertise on both Merc and Merb and we ask you to no longer give them your business as long as they continue to advertise with Tom.

    The post immediately following this one contains a list of the Merc advertisers affected by this boycott. The list will be kept up to date and you will be notified of any advertisers who cancel their accounts with Merc.
    Finally, this boycott could end within the hour; all it would take is for Tom to scrub his board of all the offending bullshit and to enforce rules similar to those in force right here. We here at Merb would like nothing more than to go back to ignoring one another.

    Boycott des annonceuses de MERC à compter du 1er décembre

    J’aimerais d’abord dissiper un malentendu entretenu by quelques filles, plus particulièrement Maria Divina. La présente initiative n’est pas une réponse à une dispute entre Merc et Merb ou entre leurs membres, mais bien à une attaque massive contre Merb, ses membres et les filles avec qui nous passons du temps. Cette attaque dure maintenant depuis près d’un an. Il y a quelques semaines, dans un geste exceptionnel compte tenu de la gravité des attaques, les mods de Merb nous ont permis de répondre.

    Les deux forums sont en apparence similaires, exception faite de leur couleur de fond. En réalité, ils fonctionnent de façon très différente. Merb a des règlements clairs qui sont appliqués de manière ferme mais juste par ses modérateurs. Merc est un forum sans autre modération que l’interdiction de contester les messages d’une poignée d’individus mentalement détraqués qui suscitent l’essentiel de leur trafic. Toute contestation des mensonges et des diffamations résultent en un bannissement silencieux et l’effacement du message.

    Le résultat est une pléthore de fausses accusations contre nous, des accusations qui pourraient faire l’objet de poursuites au civil dans la vie non virtuelle. Tony est libre de désigner Techman et Merlot comme des pédophiles et d’écrire une revue de Scarlett suggérant qu’elle offre des services qu’elles ne prodigue pas. Ziggy, lui-même passionné de fantaisies violentes avec les escortes, a choisi de me désigner comme un violeur, a écrit des revues scandaleuses de Jasmine, qu’il n’a jamais rencontrée et a harcellé et rabaissé de nombreuses autres filles. Ceci n’est que la pointe de l’iceberg.

    Toute tentative de rectification est accueillie par les railleries de Tom, le propriétaire de Merc qui écrit aussi sous le pseudonyme Wickerman, et de leur mod9 qui écrit sous le pseudonyme ironique de agentleman27.

    Pourquoi un boycott? Les revenus de publicité sont le poumon de tout site web. Nous n’avons jamais réussi à obtenir de réponse raisonnable de la part de Tom et de mod9. L’une des dernières mesures qu’il nous reste est d’essayer de couper leur revenu de publicité. Nous avons avisé leurs annonceurs il y a quelques semaines que nous cesserons de retenir leurs services s’ils continuent d’acheminer à Tom une partie de l’argent que nous leur donnons.

    Nous ne vous demandons pas de changer vos habitudes, mais simplement d’être plus conscients d’où vous dépensez votre argent. Il n’y a pas de pénurie d’escortes, en agence ou indépendantes, ni de salons de massage, qui annoncent ici et dont l’immense majorité n’annoncent pas sur Merc. En faisant affaire avec les annonceuses de Merb, vous récompensez celles qui permettent à Fred Zed de garder en vie un forum où le respect est la norme. Des annonceuses annoncent ici et sur Merc. Nous vous demandons de ne pas faire affaire avec elles tant qu’elles annonceront sur Merc.

    La liste des annonceurs de Merc se trouve dans le message suivant. Ce sont les annonceurs qui font l’objet du boycott. La liste sera tenue à jour.

    Le boycott pourrait se terminer très rapidement. Il suffirait que Tom fasse le ménage de son forum et éliminant les messages diffamatoires et en implantant les règles de modérations standard reconnues pour les forums de discussion. Notre souhait ne consiste en rien d’autre que le retour à la situation d’avant : s’ignorer mutuellement.
    Last edited by rumpleforeskiin; 12-02-2010 at 08:34 AM.
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    Il y a des agences bait & switch là-dedans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Stratégaire View Post
    Il y a des agences bait & switch là-dedans
    Indeed, most of these agencies are bait and switch, but there are a few legitimate ones, a few of whom also advertise on merb. However, as long as they advertise on merc and, in essence, pay so that merc can foul cyberspace, they are being boycotted along with those that advertise on merc alone.
    The mounties always get their man.

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    Boycott both boards ladies!! STOP PAYING FOR PUBLICITY!!


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    EDIT: You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to promote your own site without paying for the privilege. Another post like this will result in a permanent suspension.

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    Last edited by Mod 8; 12-01-2010 at 08:19 AM.

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    What total horse shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-4Roger View Post
    For a first post, this is absolutely NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR and shows a lack of respect to Merb members and advertisers.

    Referring to a competitor should not be tolerated on Merb. Not all Merbites knew about this other review board and certainly not all supporting member knew neither. This may drive some business out of here and action should be taken immediately to avoid similar situation.
    He is the board owner; expect a banning soon. As far as it taking business from merb, don't hold your breath. It's pretty much DOA; poorly designed and full of clutter.
    Last edited by rumpleforeskiin; 12-01-2010 at 07:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumpleforeskiin View Post
    He is the board owner; expect a banning soon. As far as it taking business from merb, don't hold your breath. It's pretty much DOA; poorly designed and full of clutter.
    I doubt it, Athana is a bit smarter than this to make such stupid posts. The Spaniard in the signature should give you a hint and send you all the way to the suburbs of Ottawa. I also agree that the post has nothing to do here regardless of whoever posted it.

    Have a nice boycott

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    So let me see if I understand this correctly?. A Girlcott has been declared by what authority on behalf of this board? the Management? the Moderators? or the Posters? Only a relatively small part of the posters in an online vote seem to want this Girlcott (less than 30%), yet someone purporting to be an some type of management, authority or representative has decreed that a Girlcott take place. I just want to make sure who or what is running this board and making these decisions. Is this an entire board sponsored Girlcott? Other posters on MERB who do not support the Girlcott (apparently 70%), may be subject to labels being attached to their handles that simply don't apply. It's kind of like mistakenly saying all men from Montreal are Gay Liberals, Girleymen or some mutation of the aforementioned, when I know good and well there are at least a few that are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS Martin View Post
    So let me see if I understand this correctly?. A Girlcott has been declared by what authority on behalf of this board? the Management? the Moderators? or the Posters? Only a relatively small part of the posters in an online vote seem to want this Girlcott (less than 30%), yet someone purporting to be an some type of management, authority or representative has decreed that a Girlcott take place.
    What happened to your ignore list, Martin? To answer your question seriously: the boycott has been called by a number of merb members; while board management has approved of our posting the boycott, they are not directly involved as any action against merc on their part would represent a conflict of interest.

    As for your silly poll, it's considerably less scientific than is your brain. For the boycott to be effective, it will only need to cost merc advertisers more business than their advertising is bringing them. Considering that the ROI from merc advertising is roughly zero, a reasonable guess considering both merc's lack of traffic and the kind of traffic it does garner, it will take very little.

    We know from back-channel support that the boycott has considerable support and that the support comes from regular hobbyists much more than from the occasional visitor, such as yourself. I might add that there two ways of supporting the boycott: 1) an overall boycott of merc advertisers and 2) an adjustment of hobbyists' "to do" lists, where participants don't necessarily boycott the advertisers but do move them to the bottom of the list. A number of people have pledged to participate in this manner.
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    Quick reminder from a recent poll
    Yes, that's important, and I am comfortable to boycott the escorts/agencies. 9 26.47%
    Yes, that's important, but I am not comfortable to boycott the escorts/agencies. 11 32.35%
    I don't care,
    I am not concerned by that story. I am a Merb member to have some fun. 14 41.18%

    34 votes ... only 9 for boycott ...
    this morning .. 418 users online only 36 members ...
    Hmmm, 9 guys voted boycott... I didn't know that there was some fanatic integrism in this hobby
    bah no problem... 9 guys...

    le chien aboie, la caravane passe

    I really consider using ignore list feature...
    Last edited by pat98; 12-01-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat98 View Post
    Quick reminder from a recent poll
    Yes, that's important, and I am comfortable to boycott the escorts/agencies. 9 26.47%
    Yes, that's important, but I am not comfortable to boycott the escorts/agencies. 11 32.35%
    I don't care,
    I am not concerned by that story. I am a Merb member to have some fun. 14 41.18%

    34 votes ... only 9 for boycott ...
    this morning .. 418 users online only 36 members ...
    Hmmm, 9 guys voted boycott... I didn't know that there was some fanatic integrism in this hobby
    bah no problem... 9 guys...
    I really consider using ignore list feature...
    Pat,

    I've found the ignore feature highly effective and convenient, especially in filtering out those posters who have little to say other than insults and abusive propaganda. One of the Moderators has publicly/privately expressed his dissatisfaction on my use and implementation methods, but the results are highly instructive.

    What some posters fail to consider in their egocentric world is that many posters have opinions, but for various private reasons simply don't post. Some fear oposing posters continuing impletation of abusive wording & namecalling, so they simply don't vote or verbalize their thoughts. Accordingly, it seems inappropriate for a minority to declare a Girlcott when said minority may or may not represent MERB or its management or owners.

    respectfully,
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    Last edited by CS Martin; 12-01-2010 at 09:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat98 View Post
    le chien aboie, la caravane passe

    I really consider using ignore list feature...
    Google English Translation of Wiki Link:
    French to English translation
    the dog barks, the caravan passes

    1.Il must follow his path without concern for what detractors say.
    There are political adversaries who are constantly on the lookout for what they believe likely to reach the men they watch. They ferreting in all corners. They will stop at no pettiness
    . "Dogs bark. The caravan moves on, "said one of the other side of the Mediterranean. - - (Joseph Caillaux, Mes Memoires, I, My youth haughty, 1942)
    The Riviera offers many events and many shows, he is always going something good and beautiful, summer and winter. No offense to Whiners who think only slander us ... the dog barks and the caravan passes ... - - (Robert green one to the other room ... Le Petit Nice, 14 September 2006)

    The more I read the more I understand the French language is highly expressive and it's use of imagery more common than English.
    Last edited by CS Martin; 12-01-2010 at 10:05 AM.

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    Corrigez-moi si je me trompe, mais jamais aucune mesure concrète n'a été prise a ce jour ........... concernant une situation de bashing que vous dénoncez et dont vous vous servez pour le boycott. Ce que je trouve triste dans tout ceci, est de constaté que pour toutes les autres femmes nommées et qui ont été victime d'insulte, intimidations ect ect .... jamasis rien n'a été fait pour elles, mis à part en parler ici et là, et si il y en a une qui aurait mérité un tant soit peu de soutien si on regarde uniquement le sujet traité pour le boycott est certainement Amélie ..... Hors mis jasmines appartenant aux groupe d'âges, aux attribues plus qu'attreyant avec menu de service très élaboré et que ce groupe de femmes est très très soutenue par merb a réussit à éveiller votre colère.......... y a de quoi se poser de sérieuse question sur les véritables motivations de ce boycott .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by pat98 View Post
    34 votes ... only 9 for boycott ...
    this morning .. 418 users online only 36 members ...
    Hmmm, 9 guys voted boycott... I didn't know that there was some fanatic integrism in this hobby
    bah no problem... 9 guys...
    Let me add my 2 cents. I've spoken to many merbites who were going to vote for the boycott, yet changed their mind when they were informed by people who had already voted that you could see who voted for what. For their own personal reasons (e.g. not wanting to be visible, not wanting to wind up on a career shit disturber's hate list, etc) they prefered not to vote....and whom am i to say that they're entirely wrong?

    Personally, being the attention whore that i am (people who know me know full well nothing thrills me more than appearing on someone else's 'hate list' ), the name-calling on the other board towards me or other hobbyists didn't bother me as much (to be honest, i might have checked out the site 2 or 3 times a year out of curiosity & needing to have a good laugh) as compared to how way too many women from the biz have been laughed at, insulted & ridiculed over there. The fact some of them actually defend the misogynists is somewhat sad, since one of the main reasons a group of people from this board wanted to make a stand was simply to stick up for those same women. The simple fact that the owner of the blue board hasn't done anything to stop the nonsense proves to me that he condones this behaviour & likely enjoys it, no matter if the women being hurled insults at are advertisers or not. Surprising? Not really. I won't dwell further into it since this is an entirely different matter.

    The bottom line is that all many of the members are asking is that Tom put his house in order. As far as i know, no one asked for blue board members to be banned. All that's been asked is that the board owner put his house in order & put an end to the childish nonsense that has gone way overboard. I actually believe that if he still has an ounce of decency, that Tom probably agrees with me on this. I firmly believe that deep down, he wants a board that he'd be proud of, not one that he should be ashamed of operating which has become the laughing stock of all web-based boards dedicated to the escort business......worldwide. Someone who's been in this business as long as he has should absolutely want something to be proud of, and not the other way around. If he's happy with the status quo, then i'm very disappointed in the person i've actually enjoyed seeing at past GT's.

    p.s. I started my personal boycott two weeks ago. I'll re-evaluate the situation next spring.
    Last edited by Doc Holliday; 12-01-2010 at 10:41 AM.

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