WARNING -- Possible Serial Female Killer Loose in the New York Area
I heard this disturbing story on CBC's As It Happened earlier today (April 5, 2011) and then went to the NY Times and found this article. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/ny...l?ref=nyregion
It's another reason why the services of a booker, driver and/or a trusted friend is vital to the safety of an SP, whether she is independent or works through an agency.
I hope they catch the killer(s) soon.
Investigators shifted their focus to a neighborhood called the Oak Island Beach Association on Long Island.
By MANNY FERNANDEZ and AL BAKER
Published: April 5, 2011
It began as a simple search for a missing prostitute named Shannan Gilbert, who had disappeared in May, and has evolved into a grisly murder mystery. The remains of eight people have now been discovered on a several-mile stretch of the Long Island shore, and the search will continue on Wednesday — for clues, evidence and, her family fears, perhaps the body of Ms. Gilbert.
Investigators determined on Tuesday that none of the eight victims was Ms. Gilbert, the 24-year-old prostitute from Jersey City whose disappearance sparked the initial search near Ocean Parkway and Gilgo Beach.
In nearly four months, the remains of four female prostitutes and four unidentified people have been found decomposing on the same remote stretch of brush and grassy dunes, heightening residents’ fears that a serial killer is in their midst and fueling an investigation that has intensified with each grim discovery.
A police dog and its handler found the first body on a Saturday in December. Three other bodies were discovered two days later. Months would pass before the police found another body last Tuesday, about one mile east from where the others turned up. On Monday, the body count climbed yet again: the remains of three other people were found.
Meanwhile, Ms. Gilbert is still missing. The police dog and Suffolk County officer who discovered the first body in December had been on a training exercise in the area in connection with the disappearance of Ms. Gilbert, who vanished nearby.
At her home in Ellenville, N.Y., Mari Gilbert, the mother of Shannan Gilbert, sought solace in the notion that even though her daughter had not been found, her disappearance made it possible for others to have been discovered.
“If it wasn’t for my daughter, these bodies never would have been found,” she said. “Everyone has their destiny, maybe this was hers. I’m still hoping she comes home.”
On Tuesday, investigators focused their attention not only on the brush and grassy dunes where the bodies were found, but also on Oak Beach, a residential area a couple miles away. In the morning, a busload of investigators entered the gated community, known as the Oak Island Beach Association. Investigators have returned numerous times to the gated community since last year: It is where Ms. Gilbert was last seen.
Ms. Gilbert had been visiting a seaside home in the Oak Beach area in the early morning hours of May 1. Gus Coletti, 76, was one of the last people to see her alive. He was at home, shaving, shortly before 5 a.m.
“I hear somebody screaming and bang-bang on the door,” he said. “I opened the door, and she stood right there. I said, ‘What’s the matter?’ And she kept saying ‘Help me.’ ”
When he dialed 911, she ran. “She took off, and that was the last I saw her,” he said.
The wave of grim discoveries — the third serial-killer murders involving prostitutes on Long Island in more than 20 years — has shocked residents, and reshaped life in what are typically tranquil beach communities. Mr. Coletti’s wife, Laura Coletti, said on Tuesday that she often walked along a service road on the south side of Ocean Parkway, but no longer. Her husband said the discovery of three new bodies has made his elderly neighbors nervous. “They call and they say, ‘Gus, are you watching out for us?’ ” he said.
Mr. Coletti, the former president of the association, said property values have plummeted in the area since December. Homes used to sell for $1 million, but now the prices are closer to $600,000, he said. “They’d have open houses, and 10 to 12 people would come and look,” he said. “Now, nobody’s coming at all.”
The bodies of the four prostitutes discovered in December were deposited aboveground and spread over a quarter-mile. Each one had been placed roughly 500 feet from the next, and each one lay about 50 feet from the north side of Ocean Parkway. Investigators said that although they were placed there at different times, the four women were all in their 20s and that they had all advertised for clients on Craigslist.
Dominick Varrone, chief of detectives in the Suffolk County police, said that it was too early to ascertain much from the new remains; he noted that three of the four newly discovered bodies “were of a considerable distance from the original four.”
He said that the police still believe that the first four victims were “the work of a serial killer,” but that it was too soon to determine if any of the latest victims were connected to the earlier murders.
He also added that it seemed that the four latest victims had been left there at least as long as the earlier victims, who had been reported missing between July 2007 and September 2010.
In recent days and months, police recruits and cadaver-sniffing dogs have combed through the brush for clues or more remains. Divers have searched a nearby inlet. Forensic anthropologists from the New York City medical examiner’s office have assisted in the case. On Tuesday, several investigators searched for evidence in dense thickets near Ocean Parkway, roughly three miles east of where the three bodies were found on Monday.
The investigators, wearing gardening gloves and boots, used shovels and tree clippers to break through the thick brush and poison ivy close to the roadway. Some have discovered ticks on their bodies, said Stuart Cameron, a deputy inspector in the Suffolk police. “They’re getting scratched up,” he said. “None of them are complaining.”
The entire area the police are now searching is roughly seven miles, from the Robert Moses Causeway to the Nassau County line.
“It is disturbing,” said Chief Varrone. “Most of these crimes have occurred some time ago. We have not found anything recent; that is a little bit of a consolation, and with each set of human remains that we find, as investigators, we are optimistic or hopeful that some or most of them will provide valuable clues, valuable pieces of the puzzle that will help us resolve this case.”
Last edited by Kansas Frank; 04-06-2011 at 12:52 AM.
Here's the kinda guy to make him (or her) work at Fukushima reactors (bare hands)... once you get hold of him (or her) instead of loosing $$$$ in year long trial and more $$$$ to keep him locked.
Again, if you like that kind of justice system, you should living in Afganistan.
Originally Posted by JH Fan
Don't make me laugh about our justice system... and our dear democracy !
Originally Posted by CLAVIE
I don't live in 'only' one place for a good reason !
Le'me guess !
You'll probably go cheering Bertrand Cantat at the TNM ?
Not really Clavie, in Afganistan they chop everyone's head off no matter what they did ... or are accused of!
Originally Posted by CLAVIE
That bass player's a babe. She makes me feel kinda funny, like when we used to climb the rope in gym class
... Wayne's World
Let's hope the law authorities catch the killer(s) soon. I'm glad to learn that lots of folks are working to catch the killer(s).
Are you talking about the little heads ?
Originally Posted by StefanoUS
If you've ever been out to Long Island, there is a stretch of highway just east of Jones Beach all the way out to Robert Moses beach (which is very close to Fire Island) called the Ocean Parkway. Somewhere in between these two points is Gilgo Beach. For some of us who partied in the 80's and 90's it's right near the famed Oak Beach Inn. From April thru October it is very active with bikers (like myself) out for a cruise or people just heading out to the beach. What amazes me is that nobody witnessed or heard anything. I can only imagine how long those bodies would have remained there if it hadn't been for the police looking for this one girl.
According to a recent news report, the investigators believe the killer could be a cop because he seems so familiar with crime scene investigations and how to cover his tracks. Allegedly, he's been calling the sister of the missing SP, using that SP's own phone and taunting her. That is SICK and inhumane. I hope justice will be served upon this killer.
Perhaps, someone should cut of his little Mr. Johnson (as they do in Afghanistan to the infidels) and then feed him his own Mr. Johnson before putting him out of his misery. An eye for an eye, especially for cowards!
Frank - This would be inhumane. When they finally catch him the do-gooders will put him in a private cell where he will get 3 square meals, excercise, a TV, Congical visits, free phone calls and health care. All on the tax payers dime. At least he will be off the streets for 10 years or so until they let him out on his own recognizance. Besides, there is probably a deep seated reason. Maybe he did not have a dad or he couldn't get a new bike or sneakers one year or once someone referred to him with a racial slur.
Originally Posted by Kansas Frank
Hungry101 -- I know the punishment I suggested is draconian and inhumane. I do hope he's caught soon. No one who engages in sex work ever deserves to be killed.
If the killer is a cop, he might want to end it by suicide by forcing other officers to shot him. No doubt he has a chip on his shoulders. I just hope he stops killing innocent women.
Men or women we can't trust anyone. Hommes ou femmes nous ne pouvons faire confiance a personne ces jours ci.
Here's the latest news backing up this statement:
Originally Posted by JaquesTR
"Internet sex forum wanted 'revenge' vs. Long Island hooker later murdered, dumped in burial grounds"
Veteran of Misadventures
I was reading about that on one of the NYC boards and it is being claimed that the poster who made that post adopts the persona of an Italian gangster on the boards and posts accordingly, and the posted threat was not serious. It may not have been serious, but it was definitely quite stupid. That board is now shut down by the Administrator due to an apparent LE investigation. LE is not paid to have a sense of humor. If a threat is posted whether it's real or not, it's getting investigated. The guy who posted that shit begged LE to investigate him.
Nobody should ever post a threat real or not because if something happens to the threatened person, you are going to get investigated, period and end of story. My guess is the Moderators here never would have allowed such stupid shit to stand.
As was said elsewhere, the Internet makes smart people smarter and dumb people louder. This article is proof of the latter.
Last edited by EagerBeaver; 04-17-2011 at 01:23 PM.
We do not tolerate threats made against other members, SPs, or anyone in general for that matter. We would also have no second thoughts about cooperating with the authorities and would provide any information they would request in such an case. If we were to believe that such a post was serious and posed a danger to someone, we would file a complaint with the police ourselves.