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I had a couple of Macintoshes back in the late 80s. It was a great system. Steve Jobs is a technical genius and a visionary, a very rare combination. I wish him a full recovery.
 
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I had a couple of Macintoshes back in the late 80s. Steve Jobs is a technical genius and a visionary . . . I wish him a full recovery.

The very first computer I used was the original Mac in college to do my papers and accounting assignments.

I'm afraid his prognosis is likely bad. I suspect he may not have much time left with us. I think Apple will survive and build on his legagacy; I understand it's a very bottoms up company. It still amazes me that no PC maker has yet to make a PC desktop that comes close to the iMac.

I hope some of his fourtunes will be donated to set up foundations for cancer research (the ones that he had) and for organ donations.
 

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I was never a fan of the man or of Apple but it is very sad that he will no longer be involved in the technological revolution he was a large part of starting. When I first heard the news I immediately thought of Jack Layton's announcement a month ago that he would be leaving 'temporarily' and had a real bad feeling about it. From the pictures on TMZ today, I fear that my feelings were right on the money and that he does not have much time remaining to him.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/
 

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He really looks awful! Regardless of his station in life or the success of his company, I feel badly to see anyone waste away like that. He looks like a concentration camp prisoner.
 

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I was never a fan of the man or of Apple but it is very sad that he will no longer be involved in the technological revolution he was a large part of starting. When I first heard the news I immediately thought of Jack Layton's announcement a month ago that he would be leaving 'temporarily' and had a real bad feeling about it. From the pictures on TMZ today, I fear that my feelings were right on the money and that he does not have much time remaining to him.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/

Just out of curiosity, why have you never been a fan of Apple? I ask this since I assume you are in the Tech field giving your handle? I always thought that the User Interface of Apple was superior to the PC, e.g. MS-Windows and the DOS Operating system. Having used the Apple and PC for graphics, I always thought that the Apple was more powerful.

I personally don't know enough about networking and the comparison between Apple and Windows systems. I would be interested in what you have to say about Apple and their products.
 

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Hi daydreamer, I'm not sure that's something I want to get into. Everytime that kind of discussion comes up it turns into a war between myself and the Apple fanatics and the thread ends up getting closed and people get banned. I'll give it a quick shot though and hope for the best...when it comes to basic hardware, PCs and Macs use mostly the same Intel processors these days and similar other components. But that's about where it ends. There are many more options in the PC world, especially when it comes to motherboards, video cards, sound cards, TV tuners, Blu-ray players, etc... PCs have always offered users the ability to customize their systems to the level they need, whether it's basic office work or hard core gaming and other intensive work like graphic, audio and video processing. The fastest processors are only available on the PC platform and there is a much larger variety of system levels available. In the past Apple may have been the darling of the graphics world but that was more based on software availability than hardware power. These days, the same professional software is available on both platforms for the most part. Macs still do rule the desktop publishing area though.

What I don't like about Macs, and have never liked, is being locked into whatever Apple decides to make available. There is basically no choice in hardware components and you either buy what they offer or you don't. Being a tech, I like to build my own systems and modify them or upgrade them whenever I want, something that is impossible with a Mac. The variety of software available for PCs is also much more varied than on a Mac. I've also always been a gamer, something that until very recently was not really an option on a Mac and even now there is such a huge gap that it will never really be closed. Games that were available on PC 8 years ago are only now coming out on the Mac platform and the new games coming out will not run on Macs at all. For gamers there are only two real choices, a PC or a console.

When it comes to OSX.whatever, I still prefer Windows, especially Windows 7. I have never liked the Mac user interface and probably never will. That also comes down a lot to the control over the operating system that I have in Windows that I feel Mac OS lacks. A lot of that feeling may be based on my knowledge of Windows and lack of same when it comes to Mac OS. All I know is that in business, Windows rules the roost and most business software is written for Windows. And I earn my living supporting businesses and hence, supporting PCs. And with over 90% of the personal computing market, the money is in supporting PCs.

To make it short and sweet, I like having freedom of computing. I like having the system that I want to have, not the one that some company wants to sell me. I like to have the flexibility to build the system I want and need and upgrade it if and when I choose with the components I choose. That is impossible with the Mac platform. I've been in the computer business since before PCs or Macs existed and I've seen a lot of changes. The computers we have in our homes today are more powerful than the computers that put men on the moon. No matter what someone chooses to buy, PC or Mac, they'll get a powerful and high quality computer that few people will ever use anywhere near it's capacity.

There are two men to thank for where we are today in computing, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Without the competition between them, we would be nowhere near the level we are at today. I may not like his business practices or his draconian methods of control over his products, but Steve Jobs has been a driving force in the industry and I don't think anyone can ever replace him.
 

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Techman, thank you for your opinion. I was a Mac user before Jobs went to Next. Then, I went to the PC, Windows platform. It had nothing to do with Jobs leaving Apple, but the PC caught up in Software and was cheaper than the Apple. I wish I bought Apple stock before Jobs returned to Apple, but don't we all.

You explained your view very well. No one should get into a disagreement over which computer is better. It is personal choice. As you said so well, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates shaped the PC world. Without them and maybe throw in Sun founder James Gosling, who developed Java, and Larry Ellison of Oracle, we would not have the computers, internet and supporting technololgy that we enjoy using today.
 

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That is very sad news and he'll be missed. Not only in the computer world, but in the entertainment world for what he achieved with Pixar. He helped change the world and not many people have had such a major effect on so many.
 

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That is very sad news and he'll be missed. Not only in the computer world, but in the entertainment world for what he achieved with Pixar. He helped change the world and not many people have had such a major effect on so many.

He was blessed with his brilliance and cursed with his serious health problems.
 

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The tragic death of Steve Jobs at age 56 is all the more sad considering what he could have come up with in the next 20 years or so if he had been healthy.

Quelle triste fin pour un homme si motiver et originale dans le domaine des ordi.
 

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Hi daydreamer, I'm not sure that's something I want to get into....................................................but Steve Jobs has been a driving force in the industry and I don't think anyone can ever replace him.

Ditto Techman!! The only thing I would add is Microsoft can be every bit as "draconian" as Apple. I cite as examples the popular Windows Home Server Platform and the new "Mesh" system they're promoting. Win8's expected basic system may make Mesh totally obsolete just as it gains momentum. It often seems like Microsoft "lurtches" from one direction and then another, failing to finish or follow through on various programs. I absolutely agree with you on Windows 7. The more I get to know it on various levels, the more I like it. Many seem content with it as a replacement for XP, while it's worlds away from it. Certainly the implementation by even some very large corporations is far short of its potential.

Apple's latest ideas and directions seem to be more and more attuned to the needs of small & medium size businesses. This may not be the impression some have, but again they're probably not looking deep enough.
 

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Let's not turn this thread into a Apple/Microsoft discussion please. If anyone wishes to have another discussion on that topic, please start a separate thread for it.

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Apple's latest ideas and directions seem to be more and more attuned to the needs of small & medium size businesses. This may not be the impression some have, but again they're probably not looking deep enough.

Apple and Microsoft have different product lines and markets. Apple products have an individual consumer market. Microsoft, on the other hand , has a much more diverse product line, and it has become an industry standard in business productivity software, e.g. Microsoft Office, out of convenience of compatibility, not product superiority. But Microsoft has many other products like Servers, Database, ERP software which is used more by midsize companies, games, pc accessories, cloud computing, computer games, mobile devices, internet search engine. They are probably not the best in quality and innovation in anything they do. But they are so diverse that their performance is adequate.

In comparison, Apple has a few products, and they are listed on the top of their website --- mac, i-pod, i-phone, i-pad, i-tunes. Their products have been in demand. I don't see any product except the mac that can be marketed to small or medium businesses. From its inception, Apple targeted a more focused narrow market, like graphic designers and then grew in mass market appeal only in the last few years with the i-phone and i-pad. Apple's recent success has been to target its products to the individual consumer. CS, I think you have misinterpreted Apple's market target.
 

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CS, I think you have misinterpreted Apple's market target.

Don't think I said they were "targeting", rather my words were as follows: "latest ideas and directions seem to be more and more attuned to the needs of small & medium size businesses". The terms "more and more attuned to the needs" doesn't mean they've veered away from the consumer. It merely means they're paying at least some more attention than before. Mod 8 is correct that this should be a "Steve Jobs" thread, not a technical discussion. dd41, if you're going to debate my posts please do me the courtesy of reading them without bias.

With regards to Steve Jobs, history is full of pivitol individuals that only grace us with their presence for a short while. Much the same as some very bright stars, their lives are short, but brillant. Jobs was one of these. Many times man builds machines (i.e. computers) only to get a particular job done without considering the interaction between machine & man. Steve Jobs seemed to understand and conceptualize this interaction to the point of creating an "art form" as well as technical prowess. Bill Gates may be remembered as bringing computers to the masses, but Steve Jobs should be remembered as bringing technology to man as an art form.

This point was driven home recently during my heart cautherization. The "cauth lab" where I was operated on was a futuristic blending of man and machine. I was awake during the entire proceedure marvelling at the symphony of movement between the two. It seemed straight out of Star Trek: The Next Generation show.
 
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