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cpp433

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a ban from the agency or a ban from merb?

very shady if it was from here, please give details!
 

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Wow so much persecution you are being exposed too, so many "useful questions"

Curious, is your old MERB handle could be Daniel by any chance ????

Merb veterans might remember the good old chap.

Truly hope he feels better.
 

Bigboyeddie

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Which agency? A Merb advertiser? Anyways, who cares. Im gonna try one soon from here. If it's good I speak my mind. If it sucks, I will speak my mind. That's what I have always done. Ban or no ban. MERB doesn't refund me my 200 bucks if it sucks, so they can you know what if they don't like it. LOL
 

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Hello simonpaul,

I find this a very interesting claim. We have never banned someone for posting a review, good or bad, as long as it is factual, not disrespectful, and follows MERB rules. Nor do we edit or censor reviews, good or bad. Could you provide some information on this supposed event please? If you claim that this 'advice' was sent to you by PM, I give you permission to post that PM here in this thread so that we can all read it.

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may be it is a mistake but when i wrote a bad review against nadia last month,she wrote me that she can ban me for the review and you take a stand for her.Because she was not happy i had to give you lot of explanations on the time of meeting and also were its happens.Sorry if i did undestand well your intervention.
 

rumpleforeskiin

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You know, simonpaul, that you are quite welcome to post here in French. You've made what to me is a fairly serious charge against Nadia, that she threatened you by PM for your having written a negative review. From what I'm reading, perhaps incorrectly, is that you were asked by mod 8 to give more detail to verify the accuracy of your review.

It would help us all if you could give a detailed description of exactly what happened and for you to do so in the language in which you feel the most comfortable.
 

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I agree about writing in french.. Sime points might be more clear.
And yes we have a right to review agencys, the girl at the agency, the drivers attitude on the phone, and even a full description of the girls hygiene.. After all, that is the point of us all coming here.

Keep within the guidelines of the boards rules, and you should be fine.
And from what ive seen.. The mods usually communicate in the open, not through pm.
( they have nothing to hide, and will tell you in front of everybody what they have to say )
 

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Moderators are here to moderate this board and to investigate possible problems when they arise. We will gladly check out the veracity of a review when doubt is raised by another member, provider or agency, advertiser or not. We have had cases of false reviews being posted against specific agencies or SPs in the past in the goal to destroy their reputation and we take such things just as seriously as we do those who shill for any particular agency or SP. When we are asked to look into any situation, we do so objectively in the goal to discover the truth, not to protect anyone. Sometimes all that is needed is to read the post. Other times, we will contact the member directly for a bit more information. These situations are usually cleared up to everyone's satisfaction with a PM or two. We will never modify or remove a post unless it is discovered to be false or breaks MERB rules.

In your particular case, you were very evasive and suspicious in what appeared to be an attempt to avoid answering a direct question as you did not seem to have the correct information to reply with. At no time were you requested to edit or remove your review or threatened with a ban or suspension for not doing so. A situation that would have been cleared up with one PM reply, dragged on for a long time due to your refusal to answer. It is much simpler to provide a direct answer instead of beating around the bush which makes you look suspicious.

Do not forget that an agency often requests further information on a bad review in the attempt to discover what the problem was so that it could be prevented or corrected in the future. It is in everyone's best interest to help agencies correct problems so that other hobbyists will not have a similar bad experience in the future. I would like to add that it is very rare that moderators are ever requested to look into a review, I would say less than 5 times a year.

And as has been posted many times in the past, no advertiser, SP, member or any other person has any say in any moderator decisions.

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may be it is a mistake but when i wrote a bad review against nadia last month,she wrote me that she can ban me for the review and you take a stand for her.Because she was not happy i had to give you lot of explanations on the time of meeting and also were its happens.Sorry if i did undestand well your intervention.
 

simonpaul

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tel que demande je vous ecris en francais.Lorsque j'ai fait des commentaires sur les incalls nadia celle-ci mA tout de suite menacee de faire une demande sur merb pour verifier mon adresse ip ,j'ai de plus recu un pm me demandant de preciser exactement l'heure et le lieu de ma rencontre avec son duo.Je comprends qu 'il peut y avoir parfois des fausses review mais lorsqu'elles sont vraies,on n'a pas a recevoir des pm de qui que se soit et en plus recevoir des menaces et des injures de l'agence dans des pm.Juste le fait qu'elle ait fait une demande pour mon adresse IP m'a rendu furieux.Si a chaque fois on fait une revue qui ne plait pas a madame on recoit des betises disant qu'on est moins que rien,vaux mieux eviter ce genre d'agence.
 

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Just to be clear here: we do not provide IP addresses of members to anyone, no matter who might make the request as that is considered confidential information. Even law enforcement would require a court order to obtain such information. IP address information is also useless to anyone other than your ISP as these addresses change on a regular basis for most Internet users.

If you are not happy with your dealings with any particular agency, there is nothing forcing you to do business with them. I am curious however, as to why you are bringing up this situation months after the fact?
 

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simonpaul, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec Mod8: c'est très compliqué de te suivre parce que, souvent, tes explications ne sont pas claires. Tu aurais avantage à faire un peu moins de messages, mais à prendre un peu plus de temps pour les écrire. De la manière que tu as commencé de le présent sujet, n'importe quel lecteur aura compris qu'un mod de merb t'aurait menacé de te bannir parce que tu as fais une critique négative sur l'agence en question. On finit par comprendre un peu plus loin que ce serait plutôt Nadya qui t'aurait proféré des menaces par message privé. Si elle a des doutes, elle a parfaitement le droit de communiquer avec toi pour te demander la date de ton rendez-vous, tout comme elle a le droit de demander aux mod de faire des vérifications. Tu as le droit de lui répondre ou non, tout comme les mods ont le droit de lui répondre ou non. Merb ne communique pas les ip des membres aux agences ni à personne.

Ceci dit, si la madame t'a bel et bien fait ce genre de menaces par messagerie privée, tu as bien raison de la dénoncer: ce serait en effet une bien mauvaise pratique de sa part.

Ma suggestion: envoie une copie des messages de menace de Nadya à un mod. S'il laisse en ligne ton dernier message, les gens tireront la conclusion qui s'impose naturellement.
 

simonpaul

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a ce que je saches elle m 'a dit qu 'elle avais fait une demande pour avoir mon adresse ip.Deplus par la suite j,ai eu des demandes d'explications par merb8, D,ou ma reflection a savoir le lien de nadia avec merb.
 

gugu

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a ce que je saches elle m 'a dit qu 'elle avais fait une demande pour avoir mon adresse ip.

Si c'est bel et bien le cas, c'est tout à fait inacceptable de sa part.

If you are not happy with your dealings with any particular agency, there is nothing forcing you to do business with them. I am curious however, as to why you are bringing up this situation months after the fact?

At the rate at which he is posting, I guess he is looking for any possible subject. In the case, however, I think the information he provides is very useful in showing how far some providers are ready to go to try to discredit members doing a bad review, including in this specific case, obtaining a critical personal information.
 

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Si c'est bel et bien le cas, c'est tout à fait inacceptable de sa part.
Quite true. Any provider resorting to this sort of intimidation should be subject to quite a long ban from this forum. If simonpaul can provide solid documentation, the mod should take significant action against Nadya. On the other hand, if simonpaul can not provide documentation, this thread should probably be deleted.
 

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It seems that people continue to bring up dead and closed subjects from months and sometimes years past for some reason. Here is the situation as it happened in a nutshell:

After a number of duo reviews, simonpaul came along and posted a very bad review. Nadya had doubts as to the veracity of the review and asked simonpaul to provide the basic information as to the date and location he saw the duo to verify that he had indeed had such an encounter. Simonpaul refused to answer her and the situation deteriorated over a period of a couple of days. Finally out of frustration, she brought the situation to my attention and requested that I back up her request for the information. I contacted simonpaul asking that he provide the information to verify his encounter actually took place and the information finally was given to Nadya which resolved the situation. The entire situation could have been avoided if simonpaul had simply provided the information to Nadya in the first place. Why he refused to do so, only he can answer. At the moment this was going on, it seemed very suspicious and his refusal made it look as if he had never had the encounter. I have no idea where the question of IP addresses comes into this discussion as an IP address is basically useless to the average person and I have no recollection of IP addresses being discussed in any way.

Agencies have the right to question a negative review just as members have the right to question any review at all. Finding out what went wrong can be valuable in preventing such problems for others in the future.

And I remain curious as to why a situation that was settled months ago is once again brought up for discussion.

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I will be very blunt. I do not give a damn if someone is not pleased with a review as long as the review is honest and is written according to MERB rules. We will not remove, edit or censor any post that does not break MERB rules no matter who requests that we do so. If anyone feels they are being harassed by another member, advertiser or not, in regards to a post they have made all they need do is contact a moderator and we will clear up the situation. Entering into a long drawn out fight by PM will achieve nothing.

And such disagreements should be handled when the situation is current. Not months later when memories have faded and details may not be as clear as they once were. It serves no valid purpose to bring up old situations that have been settled. Doing so will only bring your motives into question. If you have a valid reason for resurrecting this situation I am certainly ready to listen to it. If not, this discussion is closed as it was settled months ago.

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Just remember that it's not the agency that makes the girls, but the girls that make the agency!!!
 
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